Wests Tigers Coaches

[Red88_Tiger]

I just cannot understand why Noddy was appointed Coach when... EDIT...Ben Gardner has been the Assistant Coach this year and did an outstanding job with Our KOE Cup Team last year.
Imo from listening to and watching the body language [no I am not a body language expert] from the Sheens/Noddy interview Noddy will not be Head Coach next year.

Less disruptive to the team imo. That sense of stability if the 2 coaches that spend most time with players continue to do so

 

[BZN]

I know you meant Ben Gardiner mate, I was wondering too what's going to come of Ben and Nathan Cayless.
I really thought I saw a different type of football team with Madge and those two.
Those close wins against Souths and Parra we would normally lose, we showed a fair bit of resolve.
I feel that the roster being inferior is like the saying, "you can get a nag up to win a race but a nag won't continue to win"
I wonder what those three could have done with a better roster, we'll never know now.
I hope we get good enough results for the rest of the year to retain them (I presume they are still with us).
As far as Ben goes I think he would have made a good interim coach especially with the young guys.

I know it's none of my business @Cobarcats but what were you doing outa bed at
4.46am? 😳 🙂
R U OK?

 

[PJ2]

I haven't seen the matrix @PJ2 /Willow
As Pauline Hanson said...please explain 😉 🙂

Good movie mate, you should check it out

 

[PJ2]

Common theme here

In Potter we trust
In JT we trust
In Ivan we trust
In Madge we trust

Our record of blind trust is a failed one. I’d rather see some actual evidence the club is turning around. Trust is earned.

No one trusted the scarecrow.

 

[trentrunciman]

Sorry if this has been mentioned but did anyone notice the pause when sheenas was asked about Ciraldo on Fox? Like he had to stop and think carefully about what to respond.

Dunno mightn’t be anything

 

[Red Rugby]

I hate to be a fly in the ointment but does everyone the last time a coach was offered a 5 year contract? Anthony Siebold hasn't been sighted since the Broncos fiasco and he'd just come off a successful season at Souths. He was considered a 'can't miss'.

 

[matchball]

Not sure about all this Ciraldo hype. What's he done?
Don't forget Jason Taylor was highly regarded by Trent Robinson as an assistant for the highly successful Roosters team.
Look how that ended.
Being a good assistant or being highly regarded doesn't mean crap once you get the reins.

I'm not sold on a rookie.

 

[SeanT]

I hate to be a fly in the ointment but does everyone the last time a coach was offered a 5 year contract? Anthony Siebold hasn't been sighted since the Broncos fiasco and he'd just come off a successful season at Souths. He was considered a 'can't miss'.

You would have KPIs in it. Top 8 by 3rd year or fired with no payout.

 

[JC99]

Not sure about all this Ciraldo hype. What's he done?
Don't forget Jason Taylor was highly regarded by Trent Robinson as an assistant for the highly successful Roosters team.
Look how that ended.
Being a good assistant or being highly regarded doesn't mean crap once you get the reins.

I'm not sold on a rookie.

Other assistants have ended up doing good though

He's been a successful coach throughout all the juniors systems and is very popular with players.

He's a coach who knows how to develop players and adjust game plans to suit a team accordingly. Older coaches tend to get stuck in their ways (like Madge) even if things aren't working.

He's the best option right now but no that doesn't mean he'll be a success. Guess we wait and see

 

[BZN]

Good movie mate, you should check it out

So it's obvious you're not worried about the anomaly of @PJ2 /Willow?

 

[earl]

I'm interested how Noddy goes. He sounds like he is ecstatic after getting the opportunity.

 

[crazycat]

Cowboys rush to ‘shut door’ after Sheens linked to Payten in rumoured reunion

Cowboys rush to ‘shut the door’ after twist in Tigers’ search for Madge replacement

www.foxsports.com.au

1. This is the best troll thread ever. Jason Taylor would not have worked but Nathan Brown is getting clicks. ha
2. Payten won't come here, unless Thurston pushes him out of the Cowboys. Thurston is driven and the club will offer him ahead of Payten and I don't blame them. They will probably have enough old hat Forwards that can do the training (Dallas johnson IMHO would be an interesting forwards coach, his technique is rated as one of the best yet his frame never matched that).

So Payten will be a NO. Till he is fired from the Cowboys. Payten does have rough edges as a coach and Thurston will be diabolical as a halves coach.

Guess this all factors into a 5 year Cameron C deal. As Payten will get fired in the next few years from the Cows, Thurston must want that job.

Personally I still think we should do a big money offer to Cooper Cronk. try anything, we get him and I could see real culture change.

 

[hank37w]

Papalii said he signed because of the money, Parra had him on $150k in his first year, we offered $600k, Parra wouldn't match it, so he came here

Geez mate, so if he appreciates that we are paying 4 x the money he is getting at the slime, it would be nice to get 4 x the output that he is currently producing when he comes here.

Sorry, just dreaming again, would be more than happy if he continues with his current high standard of play which is worth the money we are going to pay for his services.

Just hope the guy doesn't burn himself out and become disillusioned if we can't provide some quality players to support him.

 

[PJ2]

So it's obvious you're not worried about the anomaly of @PJ2 /Willow?

He has been absorbed

 

[851]

Geez mate, so if he appreciates that we are paying 4 x the money he is getting at the slime, it would be nice to get 4 x the output that he is currently producing when he comes here.

Sorry, just dreaming again, would be more than happy if he continues with his current high standard of play which is worth the money we are going to pay for his services.

Just hope the guy doesn't burn himself out and become disillusioned if we can't provide some quality players to support him.

He is on more than $150,000 this year, that was last year when we signed him, but he is on about half what we will be paying next year, and Parra wouldn't get close to matching it at the time. Funny thing is, $600,000 looks like a good buy now, so tough luck Parra

 

[twentyforty]

How can the DNA of a club that's 22 years old be one thing, if we haven't seen that one thing in the past 11 years? Unless a DNA can be created in 2.5 seasons? maybe it can?

The brief period of time that we saw a small, mobile forward pack allow the backs to play expansive is the exception rather then the rule or in its DNA. I would say the DNA of Wests Tigers is they have no identity.

Pathways focus is great but to me it looks like a pipedream that will have very hard to quantify KPI's and will give the power brokers 5 more years of excuses as we wait for " the next young crop of players".

Drum, I think you’re right about that. WT doesn’t have a DNA. We have never had a laser beam focus on anything much. We struck gold when Elias called in Sheens, who adapted a style of play to suit our talent.
Our team song changes too often to search there for some kind of evidence of DNA. Our logo changes to sell more merchandise.
To say something is or isn’t in our DNA is pure guess work and fantasy, unless someone can point to proof of its existence. We know for example “cattle dog “ was in Tommy’s DNA.

 

[tigeress]

If I was Cameron Ciraldo I wouldn’t go to the tigers no way

He's probably not going to come to WT's anyway

 

[Spartan117]

G'day @PJ2 There seems to be some sort of an anomaly with your user name.
When I clicked on Willow said ⬆️ it takes me back to your name @PJ2.
A bit weird dont Yuh reckon??? 😉 😁 as some people on here might think you are actually our ex Mod Willow...and would you want that???

He renamed the account.


The Willow account was not our Ex Mod.

 

[Lauren]

This just reeks of when Taylor was sacked and everyone thought we’d never look back. This looks to be another false dawn.

I was actually just about to post on a a thread that has now since been deleted, it was in regards to WTs 2005 DNA and I was basically referring to the differences between this and the Taylor sacking.
(So please excuse the layout as some of it was already in response to another post.)
The flair or tactical nous/ability was still pretty evident when he was our coach.
We've never been a strong defensive team but I believe when coaches have tried to instill this into the team (and especially subsequent to losing Moses, Woods and Teddy) there was disproportionate effort placed into this area and we lost that intrinsic style.
Losing players who were suited to this (JAC, Simona are others), and thrived playing this type of footy, also made it hard to revert back to and we replaced them with outsiders - from different systems.
The neglect in the juniors meant it wasn't being filtered down either.

The game and rules are frequently changing and the current evolution of it, is why that 2005 team would've been perfect for the modern game. It was built for it. It's also probably why the club now recognises we've never really recruited or retained the players that were dynamic to this brand. (If we are claiming it's part of our identity).
If we still had the right type of players and were capable of playing this distinctive style of footy, there's no doubt we'd be very competitive in the NRL today.
Either way you look it, we've addressed the juniors and are attempting to implement this characteristic, so its a matter of time before it comes to fruition but in the meantime we need to be filling our first grade roster with players that have already shown to be highly competitive in the NRL competition. Or have the right coach that can bring them up to standard.

Its different to other sacking because its about sticking to and following through with a concise plan. I believe the club finally gets it, you need to bring changes forth or we'll be forever standing still and not developing.

 

[Spartan117]

The Best thing our club can do to attract a good coach is to Win Games.

It starts with Manly this weekend!