Wests Tigers Coaches

weststigerman said:
I suppose we can all agree now the board/Pascoe/Sheens stuffed up by not sacking Madge late last year.

The argument was made that this was done because the coach they wanted turned us down last year but now he's going to join. We all now know that that is not true. Either that or we screwed it up just like Latrell, JAC, TPJ etc.

We can't do it now while we're trying to find a coach, but once we do, I hope Pascoe is gone.
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Made shouldn't have been sacked last year or this year.

This has highlighted the ineptitude of the leadership by giving us fans yet another bungle.

#AnotherTigersFail
 
What makes Cleary such a great coach is imo his ability to sum up a player's skillset and work that player into the gameplan based around the skills and limitations that player possesses. Brooks is a great example of this and Cleary's results with him only reaffirm his status in the game as a great coach. All the great coaches have this ability = Sheens, Bennett, Bellamy, Cleary and I'm going to include Payten as well.
 
TrueTiger said:
Deadset bring the old boys club back....Farah and Marshall to help coaching...
Bring the old identity back...

thats what has cost us years of no finals mate,,,Farah,Marshall club icons and could only win ONE premiership,,,,what about the last 11 years they were here and a big part of the club for most of those 11 years...
Get with the times Tim sued us and has been sacked from many clubs,,,Farah thought HE was the club and cost us Potter,Marshall thought he was the greatest,but the Auckland blues thought they needed him....fairdinkum some people really need to think before they post...Madge got sacked because he wanted to change the culture of this club ...bringing those blokes back will only set us back another decade...

We need a new identity just like we need one home ground...we dont need old past heros.we need fresh new blood in regard to coaching,players and bloody admin so we can move forward,the old way has cost us dearly.time to enter the new way of the game and systems....
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TT, Maguire style of football is so diametrically the opposite of Sheens' style I'm surprised there were posts on this Forum advising they were on the same page. The five hit-ups and a bomb strategy imo would have offended Sheens but he gave Maguire free reign.
 
BAGNF05 said:
Heaven forbid, people discussing football on a … football forum.
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What the hell dude ? You asked a condescending question , I answered that question thoroughly and now you twist it again . Are you ever wrong ? There’s people on here going into meltdown over this season , and whilst it sux , and yes we are here discussing it , and how frustrating it is ,it’s worth keeping it all in perspective . If you can’t understand why saying that on here is a good thing , then there’s no hope for you .
Have an actual read of the last 50 off pages and tell me what it reads like . Anyone would think the world is ending . But nope we just follow a bad football team .
It does not read like sane rational thoughts , for large parts of it .
 
stryker 69 said:
…he says in a very angry/ranty way…
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Angry ? How on earth can you find any kind of tone out of that . If anything it was written in an apathetic way . Ie. I’ve personally processed how bad this team is , and I choose not to cut my wrists . Because it’s my choice to follow them . But you get anger out of that ? I don’t know how ..
 
TSP said:
360

There were a few loose ends and a critique against the “ new toy” approach which I thought be easily countered. Madge was an example of an old toy for example Browny, Barrett etc.

Flanno was given praise.

My interpretation of Kentys utterance was that Sheens wanted him gone last year and was overruled.

So if that’s the case, sheens holds the wise sage power now.

I’m not sure Noddy/Sheens thing would work hands on, I’d rather have Sheens immersed in recruitment and retention.

The usual inference of the club failing, but that’s par for the course. I mean does it really matter what some officials told people beforehand when compared to the result? The club people had a belief he would join because he indicated he would. Then he ratted. That’s why I hold him accountable. But that’s neither here nor there.

The real question is whether or not the new coach is suited and can make a positive impression on the results and/or our game.

You don’t often hear coaches sing about the result, but the game and performance. This is simply because one eventually leads to the other. It’s rare a that a side with good completions and overwhelming possession loses. It happens, but it’s against the grain.

At any rate, quite exciting days ahead.

We won’t know if the new coach or Noddy is the goods for awhile. It’s like getting the Titanic to full steam. Takes ages.

I hear all the pathways stuff etc, I’m proud and grateful for the kids. But we need to see something at first grade.

The Miracle at Mt Smart would be a good start.

And when do we review the new coach? Kpis?

I don’t want Noddy to get the spoon either.
Perhaps the dogs will ease off a bit? I still think they are a bit suss. I can confidently predict that 100% of this forum don’t really trust the dogs.

Shonky as they come. The bulldogs club DNA is touching up women and some of their fans, from time to time, they need a good solid belting.
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That clubs grub dna comes from bullfrog . It was spoken fondly how untrustworthy that guy was, all the backstabbing , cheating , stealing and eventual betrayal .
It’s funny that culture still follows them . It was all justified because they won footy games .
 
pawsandclaws1 said:
TT, Maguire style of football is so diametrically the opposite of Sheens' style I'm surprised there were posts on this Forum advising they were on the same page. The five hit-ups and a bomb strategy imo would have offended Sheens but he gave Maguire free reign.
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Every team uses the five hit ups and bomb. It's the quality of the players that is the difference on how effective it is. - i.e. meters made, breaking the advantage line, the quality of the kick, the chase, and the ability to compete for the kick. The good teams have players that do all those things well to get them into a position to attack.
Our team struggles in all those areas which is a measure of why we get dominated.
 
216 pages on this topic and still nothing.

Whoever gets the Coaching role will still have the same struggles the other coaches have faced.

Until the club has a real change at all levels of the organisation then it is just shuffling chairs on the titanic I am affair.

Professional sport is a result driven business and both officials and players are disposal.

Gone are the days of loyalty unless you are an elite player on top dollars, DCE, JT, Cleary.
 
TSP said:
360

There were a few loose ends and a critique against the “ new toy” approach which I thought be easily countered. Madge was an example of an old toy for example Browny, Barrett etc.

Flanno was given praise.

My interpretation of Kentys utterance was that Sheens wanted him gone last year and was overruled.

So if that’s the case, sheens holds the wise sage power now.

I’m not sure Noddy/Sheens thing would work hands on, I’d rather have Sheens immersed in recruitment and retention.

The usual inference of the club failing, but that’s par for the course. I mean does it really matter what some officials told people beforehand when compared to the result? The club people had a belief he would join because he indicated he would. Then he ratted. That’s why I hold him accountable. But that’s neither here nor there.

The real question is whether or not the new coach is suited and can make a positive impression on the results and/or our game.

You don’t often hear coaches sing about the result, but the game and performance. This is simply because one eventually leads to the other. It’s rare a that a side with good completions and overwhelming possession loses. It happens, but it’s against the grain.

At any rate, quite exciting days ahead.

We won’t know if the new coach or Noddy is the goods for awhile. It’s like getting the Titanic to full steam. Takes ages.

I hear all the pathways stuff etc, I’m proud and grateful for the kids. But we need to see something at first grade.

The Miracle at Mt Smart would be a good start.

And when do we review the new coach? Kpis?

I don’t want Noddy to get the spoon either.
Perhaps the dogs will ease off a bit? I still think they are a bit suss. I can confidently predict that 100% of this forum don’t really trust the dogs.

Shonky as they come. The bulldogs club DNA is touching up women and some of their fans, from time to time, they need a good solid belting.
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Kent argument for bottom clubs don't use experienced coaches.

Hello twerp we just had an experienced coach in Maguire which he was happy to list the rookie coaches that didn't work but failed to mention Maguire.
 
Telltails said:
Every team uses the five hit ups and bomb. It's the quality of the players that is the difference on how effective it is. - i.e. meters made, breaking the advantage line, the quality of the kick, the chase, and the ability to compete for the kick. The good teams have players that do all those things well to get them into a position to attack.
Our team struggles in all those areas which is a measure of why we get dominated.
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Again, this was Maguire's roster. He cannot blame others after 3.5 years, that is just ridiculous.. What about second phase play? In any sport, it is the level of enthusiasm a coach can generate that determines the chase and competing for the ball, be it rugby league, soccer or netball. It appeared our team was trained not to compete for the ball in fear of the opposition launching a counter attack. In the end, the club agreed and he's gone about 3.5 years too late.
 
pawsandclaws1 said:
What makes Cleary such a great coach is imo his ability to sum up a player's skillset and work that player into the gameplan based around the skills and limitations that player possesses. Brooks is a great example of this and Cleary's results with him only reaffirm his status in the game as a great coach. All the great coaches have this ability = Sheens, Bennett, Bellamy, Cleary and I'm going to include Payten as well.
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I see the Burton wet dream thread is now the Cleary wet dream thread.

If you go to more Panthers games you might actually get to touch his hand.
 
Telltails said:
Every team uses the five hit ups and bomb. It's the quality of the players that is the difference on how effective it is. - i.e. meters made, breaking the advantage line, the quality of the kick, the chase, and the ability to compete for the kick. The good teams have players that do all those things well to get them into a position to attack.
Our team struggles in all those areas which is a measure of why we get dominated.
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Yeah but if it’s clearly not working why persist with it? Why not try something els isn’t that the coaches job to get the best out of the players he has also Penrith play nothing like that they attack every tackle and are very unpredictable same goes for the storm
 
twentyforty said:
Its difficult to know what the problems are unless you're an insider. We can only speculate, but lets assume for a moment that the club had strong administration. The board were making sound decisions, had a vision shared by every single person in the organisation, along with the trust and respect of every member of the organisation. Each and every person knew their responsibilities and the regular tasks they performed and how it impacted on others. Would we still be asking the questions?
You're right about players performing better or lifting in a different or better team. There's also the other element which can give a team a lift, and that is the pride in the jersey. Apparently QLDers grow another leg by putting on the maroon jersey.
I'm very interested to see how those two recruits go next season after we sacked the coach who gave them a contract. One of them has already said he came for the money.
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Which of the new recruits said 'he came for the money'... with that attitude he won't play his best then will he ?
 
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