Manly Inclusive Pride jersey backlash

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As a gay, I don't care if they wear it or decide not to wear it based on their beliefs.
That's fine. People shouldn't be forced to do someone that they fundamentally don't want to... as long as they aren't dicks or actively work against the concept of the jersey...
I wouldn't want to wear a christian/muslim/jewish/labor/liberal/green pride jersey - however I'd support someone who wanted to, and would object to people who objected to them wearing it.
Thank you for posting.

I think people tend to skip to the conclusion that not wearing the jersey is actively working against the cause or being a dick?

I got a bit lost with the what you were objecting to?
 
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I find the stock Manly jersey and everything it stands for offensive.

And just thinking, the ole Jets would have killed it these days in the NRL.

Poor Newtown, ahead of its time.
 
Personally, I don’t believe that any of it should be involved in sport in general. We watch sport to get away from the dark side of life. Leave it to whatever, but just leave sport out of it. I grow tired of everything good in life being complicated and turned into some sort of political or “woke” stance. Believe in it or not I really don’t care, just stop ramming it down my throat in things that we all come together on. It just divides everyone, as seen by this thread.
I do understand your point, but I've said it already in this thread, the concept of keeping politics or "wokeness" or any other form of socio-cultural messaging out of sport is unrealistic.

The NRL currently has programs and initiatives addressing women's involvement, indigenous culture, disabilities. NRL was the first code to formally support the gay marriage vote. NRL sanctions players for bringing the game into disrepute even if the offense is not strictly criminal (e.g. racist comments etc.). The NRL sidelines players charged with serious offence, even if the trial is yet to reach court. NRL actively promotes men's mental health issues.

These are all examples of the NRL getting involved in non-football matters. Yes, in an ideal world there would just be football and no nonsense. And Fox Sports would have nothing to comment about.

But if you are to legitimately remove/sideline "inclusiveness" or LGBTQI messaging from the game, then OK, but it follows you have to remove all the other sorts of messaging and community initiatives, because the NRL should not be allowed to have a bias towards any single message or stance.

Also - the division you talk about, it already exists. There is already a divide in society towards minorities, so to request to have that removed from sport, because you don't want to be reminded of real-world divisions whilst you watch footy, ignores the reality of division within society.

For example the stigma around depression and getting help - we could conceivably say "I know these people suffer, I just don't want their struggles rammed down my throat during the football".
 
Why cant the people who want to wear it do so and the others not. Oh I forgot the NRL cant even apply the rules within a game correctly, god help if there are a few subtle differences on the jersey of a team. Would probably never call full time and have captain challenges until Xmas.
That's exactly what's happening.

The NRL cannot permit teams to wear alternating jerseys on-field, it has to be uniform (literally).

But the guys who don't want to wear it, they are allowed. I don't think Manly are going to stop them.
 
Oh boy the Wests Tigers forum certainly lacks theological knowledge. Just a PSA, if a Christian position seems outrageously stupid to you, you likely don't actually understand it as well as you think you do.
The Christian "position" can be picked apart like a badly-tailored suit.

I can say this with some authority being raised as a ~18 year Catholic - catholic education, church every Sunday etc. I would consider myself a fair authority on what the Catholic church teaches and preaches.

Of course there is no standard Christian "position" - all the different sects manage to disagree with each other in one way or another.
 
Manly are literally calling it their "inclusivity" jersey and you reckon it's just a cause to create division?

Maybe if people weren't so sensitive to the recognition of other parties, everyone could have their moment in the sun and nobody would get upset about it.

I literally don't understand how recognition of one part of Australian society is cause to complain. Don't let it bother you.
This is such a twist of my words it’s not funny. I never said Manly was trying to create division.

Anyway, I think I’ve made my point. You’ve made yours. I have other things to do.
 
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I do understand your point, but I've said it already in this thread, the concept of keeping politics or "wokeness" or any other form of socio-cultural messaging out of sport is unrealistic.

The NRL currently has programs and initiatives addressing women's involvement, indigenous culture, disabilities. NRL was the first code to formally support the gay marriage vote. NRL sanctions players for bringing the game into disrepute even if the offense is not strictly criminal (e.g. racist comments etc.). The NRL sidelines players charged with serious offence, even if the trial is yet to reach court. NRL actively promotes men's mental health issues.

These are all examples of the NRL getting involved in non-football matters. Yes, in an ideal world there would just be football and no nonsense. And Fox Sports would have nothing to comment about.

But if you are to legitimately remove/sideline "inclusiveness" or LGBTQI messaging from the game, then OK, but it follows you have to remove all the other sorts of messaging and community initiatives, because the NRL should not be allowed to have a bias towards any single message or stance.

Also - the division you talk about, it already exists. There is already a divide in society towards minorities, so to request to have that removed from sport, because you don't want to be reminded of real-world divisions whilst you watch footy, ignores the reality of division within society.

For example the stigma around depression and getting help - we could conceivably say "I know these people suffer, I just don't want their struggles rammed down my throat during the football".
“For example the stigma around depression and getting help - we could conceivably say "I know these people suffer, I just don't want their struggles rammed down my throat during the football"”
I know what your saying, but I include everything in my personal view. I also understand putting the message of support on all sorts of issues out there to the public. I just don’t personally want it involved in sports. Same as I don’t believe that religion shouldn’t have anything to do with politics. It may be an impossible perfect world for me, I just believe things have a certain place in life that’s all.
 
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This is such a twist of my words it’s not funny. I never said Manly was trying to create division.

Anyway, I think I’ve made my point. You’ve made yours. I have other things to do.
Honestly and sincerely not attempting to twist your words.

These are your words, verbatim:
"they are heated topics and just cause to create division"

I am not saying Manly are intentionally creating division, I am just repeating what you have said - that to raise/discuss these "heated" topics just causes division. The alternative is to pretend such topics don't exist and pretend there is no division?
 
“For example the stigma around depression and getting help - we could conceivably say "I know these people suffer, I just don't want their struggles rammed down my throat during the football"”
I know what your saying, but I include everything in my personal view. I also understand putting the message of support on all sorts of issues out there to the public. I just don’t personally want it involved in sports. Same as I don’t believe that religion shouldn’t have anything to do with politics. It may be an impossible perfect world for me, I just believe things have a certain place in life that’s all.
So no Men's Shed, no "are you alright mate?" during footy?
 
So no Men's Shed, no "are you alright mate?" during footy?
No. The only kind of exception I would make would be men and if it exists women of league foundations and junior league support in the rugby league scenery. Purely because it’s league related. Otherwise you get caught up in the hypocrisy with rules for some and not for others, and we saw how that turned out on Sunday arvo…
 
This club is a disgrace to society, They all know about upcoming feature rounds within their club ,and to say the players were surprised and decided to pull out is just ANNESLEY in repeat. BEYOND POOR . This action from these morons could trigger other morons not to turn up in protest. A small crowd will now be disappointing , but I’m hoping it’s a sellout . If these guys don’t like the game or movement, they should find a suitable competition where they can play their eyes out.
 
The Christian "position" can be picked apart like a badly-tailored suit.

I can say this with some authority being raised as a ~18 year Catholic - catholic education, church every Sunday etc. I would consider myself a fair authority on what the Catholic church teaches and preaches.

Of course there is no standard Christian "position" - all the different sects manage to disagree with each other in one way or another.
Hahahah oh you went to a Catholic school? That changes everything! I heard they rigorously study the Summa Theological as well as the Catechism of the Council of Trent at those
 
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