Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

To those Forum Legends who watch the lower grades how realistic is one or more of the following players ready to step up to NRL Second Row in 2023?

Blore (needs to stay injury free)
Matamua
O'Kane
Tumeth

Papali'i needs a partner. I would still like Kelma to stay as I think he has something to offer if he can play 80 minutes. Seems to switch off in second half after a good first half in games.
 
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Around 500k has been wiped off the salary cap next season with the departures of Mikaele and Luciano early and the loans of Gildart and Nofoaluma.

Pole and Nu Brown to be upgraded to top 30 (unsure of the last spot).

Gildart, Liddle, Roberts, Peachey and Tuki will all likely be gone this off season. Jake Simpkin may also leave either on loan or permanently.

Benji and Sheens have been putting in the ground work with managers and players to land some decent talent for next season. Still over 1mil available in the cap for next season. With some luck there could be a few big name players come available in the offseason.
Simpkin to Parramatta Liddle to dragons
 
Tim Sheens has issued a hands off warning to the Newcastle Knights, insisting Luke Brooks will be staying at Wests Tigers next season.

And despite Brooks last month hinting his time at the club might be coming to an end, Sheens said the Tigers are keen to extend his contract beyond 2023, when he is due to earn a reported $1.1 million.

“Obviously everyone would prefer for it to be at less money,” Sheens said.

“But we can sit down and negotiate with him and extend his contract out.”

It comes in the countdown to Sunday’s clash between the two clubs amid renewed speculation that the Knights are still desperate to tempt Brooks out of the Tigers for 2023.

The talk won’t go away that Brooks may have played his last game for the Tigers after going down with a season-ending calf injury last week.

Knights legend Andrew Johns was a driving force in trying to entice Brooks to Newcastle at the end of last year following Mitchell Pearce’s shock departure.

Johns went on the record saying he thought Brooks needed a change of scenery and that he could help the game’s most maligned playmaker fulfil his massive potential.

Johns recently signed an extension to stay on Adam O’Brien’s coaching staff next season, and some in Newcastle believe signing Brooks could be the key to saving O’Brien’s job as huge pressure builds on the Knights coach.

It was Sheens who stepped in last year and declared that Brooks would not be released.

Now Sheens has doubled down, adamant he and Tigers coach-in-waiting Benji Marshall want Brooks long term.

“I will stand by what I said,” Sheens said.

“On the record, he is contracted. Point blank.

“He is contracted to us next year. And I expect him to turn up for pre-season training.”

Sheens was just as confident that he and Benji could help bring the best out in Brooks, just as Johns thinks he can.

He even reminded us that under Ivan Cleary in 2018 Brooks was crowned Dally M halfback of the year.

“Ring Benj, he will tell you,” Sheens said. “Look, I rate the kid. He is a one club player.

“I think we can certainly between Marshall and myself bring him back into the game as the seven he was and he is.”

Asked if he could guarantee Brooks would be at the club next season, Sheens added: “Unless the world changes that is what I am doing.

“Honestly, can I ever say yes to anything? No one can.

“But I am not indicating (he is leaving) and I have told you, I mean it, I like the kid and I want him in the side.

“Benji loves him and wants him in the side. But we can’t say any more than that.”

Sheens said it was his intention to keep Brooks and Doueihi together as the halves combination, with Jackson Hastings the ball playing lock.

Sheens also has a good opinion of young Jock Madden but sees him as a work in progress given his limited experience.

Brooks, Doueihi and Hastings are all off contract at the end of next season, along with fullback Daine Laurie.

That is why Sheens insisted interim coach Brett Kimmorley moved Hastings to lock to accommodate all of them in the starting side before the club started any extension talks.

Unfortunately that plan has been put on hold with both Brooks and Hastings suffering season ending injuries.

“That is the only thing I really stood up and said,” Sheens explained. “I am not taking credit for it or anything like that.

“All I am saying is I said that was the way it was going to happen.

“We needed to look at it for the rest of this year before we made a decision (on the future) because I thought that was the best way it would work.

“And certainly with me coaching next year that will be the way it is going to work. It is only unfortunate now we have a situation with two of them out for the year
The Brook has run dry.
 
To those Forum Legends who watch the lower grades how realistic is one or more of the following players ready to step up to NRL Second Row in 2023?

Blore (needs to stay injury free)
Matamua
O'Kane
Tumeth

Papali'i needs a partner. I would still like Kelma to stay as I think he has something to offer if he can play 80 minutes. Seems to switch off in second half after a good first half in games.
Kitione Kautoga is a prospect - big, quick for a big man and elusive. He is a destructive runner of the ball. Matamua, O'Kane and Tumeth are all great prospects as well. Sione Vaihu is a very good player from Balmain SG Ball. I have more confidence now that we will see these younger players progress. I hope the club is working overtime to head off the vultures.
 
Kitione Kautoga is a prospect - big, quick for a big man and elusive. He is a destructive runner of the ball. Matamua, O'Kane and Tumeth are all great prospects as well. Sione Vaihu is a very good player from Balmain SG Ball. I have more confidence now that we will see these younger players progress. I hope the club is working overtime to head off the vultures.

Thank you. I agree WT management needs to learn from past errors and secure these players on long term contracts.

I think I read Kautoga will be on a development contract for 2023 which is exciting news. WT really need a big and quick back rower.

With 5 games remaining it would be good to give Matamua and Tumeth a run
 
not many players on the market left for 2023

There are so few players available. Our recruitment has been top notch but we've lost Luc, Kelma and Garner.

I have no idea how they let all 3 go. That edge backrow position is a problem. They'll have to play Blore in that spot even though he might be better in the middle. We definitely need back-up for Blore and IP as well.
 
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There are so few players available. Our recruitment has been top notch but we've lost Luc, Kelma and Garner.

I have no idea how they let all 3 go. That edge backrow position is a problem. They'll have to play Blore in that spot even though he might be better in the middle. We definitely need back-up for Blore and IP as well.

We have recruited 2 good players for next year but that is all,that needs to change and quickly because atm all we have is a racecar without an engine
 
There are so few players available. Our recruitment has been top notch but we've lost Luc, Kelma and Garner.

I have no idea how they let all 3 go. That edge backrow position is a problem. They'll have to play Blore in that spot even though he might be better in the middle. We definitely need back-up for Blore and IP as well.
100%, hopefully there is some thought behind this, as we usually let go the better players and on positions we have no depth!
 
Kitione Kautoga is a prospect - big, quick for a big man and elusive. He is a destructive runner of the ball. Matamua, O'Kane and Tumeth are all great prospects as well. Sione Vaihu is a very good player from Balmain SG Ball. I have more confidence now that we will see these younger players progress. I hope the club is working overtime to head off the vultures.
In my opinion Kautoga would have been pushing for a 1st grade spot now if he didn't cop so many injuries. He has many attributes that can make him a quality 2nd rower with x factor. Tumeth is the other one for me who will be ready in 2023. Hopefully puts on a bit of size and has a massive pre-season. O'Kane and Vaihu both have potential, but still a little further away I reckon.
 
Not the slightest bit happy or impressed by what has been said by sheens in this article, I can see another major wests tigers stuff up coming with extending Mr hopeless for another 5 years and losing the real talent elsewhere to come back and bite us in the arse. There will be NO premiership wins if this is the outcome.
Re-sign Brooks and lose Madden. Not sure that's the way to go. Madden shows potential to improve while Luke, unfortunately, has gone nowhere.
 
100%, hopefully there is some thought behind this, as we usually let go the better players and on positions we have no depth!

It's an issue. I like Paws response but he is talking about guys that are unproven at the top grade and might not be ready just yet.
 

He must be 19 at best though. He'll have to come on like Nanai and the injuries are a concern. Look at Blore.

I think he looks much more like an edge backrower than Blore does.

If though Kautoga is considered to be an NRL edge player by the club it puts Sheens comments about Blore moving to the middle in context.
 
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