Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[earl]

And I don't rate Sheens judgement, he had Johnny Cronk and Fitzy in the halves for extended periods, he also used Lawrence, Fulton, Farah as well, I don't trust him one bit when it comes to team selection

I think he makes good and bad decisions. The bad ones can be real bad though.

 

[Telltails]

That could be bad for us, Sheens has this crazy idea he can fix him, might mean we pay more to keep him, just send him on his way already. If Brooks kicks on somewhere else, so be it, he has had 9 years to kick on here without success

Yeah seems that way. Was hoping Newcastle might throw something too good to refuse. We need change and so does Brooks imo.

 

[weststigerman]

Is that the mental health of the many on this forum who want Brooks gone?😀

That too. Very much like persisting with Johnny Cronk for 3 years.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Yeah seems that way. Was hoping Newcastle might throw something too good to refuse. We need change and so does Brooks imo.

The change we need is the style of football played. This has happened and we have been unlucky not to defeat two top 4 teams.

 

[weststigerman]

That could be bad for us, Sheens has this crazy idea he can fix him, might mean we pay more to keep him, just send him on his way already. If Brooks kicks on somewhere else, so be it, he has had 9 years to kick on here without success

I said that earlier in the year. If they were going to sack Madge, they should have let him move Brooks on first, because every new coach thinks they can fix him.

When Maguire started he had to decide whether to re-sign Brooks before actually coaching him in a game and he made the fatal mistake of thinking he could make him a quality 7. It seems history is going to repeat itself.

 

[earl]

The change we need is the style of football played. This has happened and we have been unlucky not to defeat two top 4 teams.

Paws has stated this the whole time Madge was here and so far he looks correct.

It'll be interesting how we go next year.

I know it's tough making the finals because there are a lot of good teams but I think we have the cattle to compete assuming we get a good run with injuries to our best players.

 

[Tiger-ferret]

I said that earlier in the year. If they were going to sack Madge, they should have let him move Brooks on first, because every new coach thinks they can fix him.

When Maguire started he had to decide whether to re-sign Brooks before actually coaching him in a game and he made the fatal mistake of thinking he could make him a quality 7. It seems history is going to repeat itself.

The best players only need a coach to guide them, not to fix them.

 

[weststigerman]

The best players only need a coach to guide them, not to fix them.

I agree. As much as I dislike the way Mitch Moses left the club, he had the desire to get better and would have improved no matter who coached him. Hastings is very similar in that way.

IMO the best halves are the footy heads that don't treat footy just as a job.

 

[Roar_Power]

I personally think Brooks needs a new start BUT....also think he has been smothered in a game plan that didn't suit him. A change in coach could do wonders. Definitely not a guarantee. Better cattle and a trusty halves partner in Doueihi might bring out the 2018 player in him.

 

[sleeve]

I would much prefer a 21yr old player with huge potential-( Madden) then Brooks , AD or Hastings if we are looking to the future. These are decent players. but do not possess the x factor required to compete against the top sides We keep buying average players, and get average results.
Considering the players we have let go i am still concerned about recruitment and retention.

 

[Snoz]

If part

If part of that restructuring is that 500k of next years deal gets paid upfront on this year's cap then it's 600k per season off the cap next year and beyond. Also seeing that's what the Knights were willing to chip in it actually means that Brooks becomes marketable for us to shop him without costing us anything on next year's cap

A lot of work around one player if true. May also mean that if we are doing so much behind the scenes then perhaps the Newcastle scenario isn't happening?

 

[diedpretty]

Bulldogs. Fitness is his biggest issue but he is one heck of a talent.
Wished we hit him harder and nabbed him. Would offer impact off the bench bigtime even for 10-15min spurts.

I don't get these signings by the bulldogs. The word was that the NRL wouldn't register Kikau and Mahoney until they got their cap in order. So either they have offloaded Thompson on the quietor they are signing Pele and Davey on the cheap to cover if they can't fit the other 2 in.

 

[Telltails]

Paws has stated this the whole time Madge was here and so far he looks correct.

It'll be interesting how we go next year.

I know it's tough making the finals because there are a lot of good teams but I think we have the cattle to compete assuming we get a good run with injuries to our best players.

We have been consistently in consistent all year. I'd say our best performances under both coaches have had more to do with the players available at the time due to a horror run of injuries and the lack of depth at the club to replace them.

 

[earl]

We have been consistently in consistent all year. I'd say our best performances under both coaches have had more to do with the players available at the time due to a horror run of injuries and the lack of depth at the club to replace them.

It's hard to draw too many conclusions right now isn't it.

 

[member850]

I don't get these signings by the bulldogs. The word was that the NRL wouldn't register Kikau and Mahoney until they got their cap in order. So either they have offloaded Thompson on the quietor they are signing Pele and Davey on the cheap to cover if they can't fit the other 2 in.

They’ve simply learned the ways of the rooster

 

[Spartan117]

I don't get these signings by the bulldogs. The word was that the NRL wouldn't register Kikau and Mahoney until they got their cap in order. So either they have offloaded Thompson on the quietor they are signing Pele and Davey on the cheap to cover if they can't fit the other 2 in.

They have mastered the 3rd Party Deals

Just like Roosters, Broncos, Melbourne, Manly, Souths, Parra.......

 

[Spartan117]

Wests Tigers have put an offer to Brooks management for $2.3M for the next 3 years including the final year on his current contract. Tiger for life.

This has me so angry.

 

[Goanna57]

And I don't rate Sheens judgement, he had Johnny Cronk and Fitzy in the halves for extended periods, he also used Lawrence, Fulton, Farah as well, I don't trust him one bit when it comes to team selection

And yet with all his bad judgements and poor team selections he is still the only coach in the club’s history to get us into the finals. Strange that must just be luck on his part

 

[Cobarcats]

I don't get these signings by the bulldogs. The word was that the NRL wouldn't register Kikau and Mahoney until they got their cap in order. So either they have offloaded Thompson on the quietor they are signing Pele and Davey on the cheap to cover if they can't fit the other 2 in.

DP it would be cool to be trained or at least be explained in detail how our salary cap works.
If Sheens could tell me what each player is on, their tenure, TPA's and how they rob Peter to pay Paul it would be awesome.
The fact is none of us know the finer details.
What I've just said seems simple to understand but I'm sure there is a lot more to it than that.
Players get so many different types of payments/allowances as well.
I personally would be a dud having a modified pass in mathematics at HSC that sometimes I have difficulty adding up my golf scorecard 🤣
Balancing the salary cap must be a nightmare!
As it stands now I believe we have enough money to sign 2 marquee forwards if they were available eg. Joseph Tapine and Angus Crichton but then we have to shore up players like AD, Laurie, Jacko, Joffa etc.... I've got a headache just contemplating the juggling act.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Paws has stated this the whole time Madge was here and so far he looks correct.

It'll be interesting how we go next year.

I know it's tough making the finals because there are a lot of good teams but I think we have the cattle to compete assuming we get a good run with injuries to our best players.

He wasn't Robinson Crusoe on that subject.