Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Mighty_Tiger]

Sheens loves Brooks so that's it . Sorry Madden doesn't matter if you've got potential and are a very instinctive player . Your individual try should have won the game and great try assist for freebairn 2nd try also .
All that for maybe a quarter of the Brooks price .
Sheens knows best ? Does he ?
Hell probably extend Brooks to end 2027 .I hope not a a million a year

Lets be real about this.

Madden has had ample opportunity to step up and deliver and he has struggled. He and his mgmt made some really clear contract views that he isn't getting a fair chance & he want's NRL commitment from us.

In his 9 starts this year he has had 1 good game, not a way to back the comments up & earn a contract which included terrible sides like the Warriors, Titans & Knights and was totally ineffective in which we lost in ugly games with.

His try assist wasn't great, yes it was a try assist in a 4 on 2 situation where 1 of those defenders raced up out of the line creating a 4 on 1 situation against 12 man team. He did his job and summed it up well, ran and passed.

He scored a great try which was setup by an even better offload from Musgrove it wasn't individual, he also had Brown unmarked on the inside and chose to step run himself and nearly got caught/fell over. He didn't create the try himself and this is the issue - he just doesn't create / identify / organise at the NRL level for others.

His data for the year shows his involvement levels & output are low for a halfback. He has touched the ball 30-40 times a game & has 3 try assists in 9 x 80min games (13 games all up) which just isn't the value for return a NRL halfback should provide.

I just don't see why we would pick him over Hastings, Brooks, AD next year all who offer us more than Madden currently does.

 

[hank37w]

Brooks scores that try every day of the week and probably a few more on top.

 

[coivtny]

No one, I am just there as an assistant.
I love 2 up and it’s similar Lol

Fair enough. I have a similar issue with bending. Makes putting socks on difficult. A lot of posters on here will think that's funny but they'll all be there one day.

 

[Halbrowne61]

Fair enough. I have a similar issue with bending. Makes putting socks on difficult. A lot of posters on here will think that's funny but they'll all be there one day.

I understand perfectly ! It’s like sitting in the movies for 2 hours and then spending 10 mins trying to stand up and leave !!!

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

I like young Madden but perhaps the club is looking long term at Kade Hill as a better prospect? Sheens, Marshall and Farah are three great judges to have of football talent.

I actually don't mind Madden but at the sametime just don't see how he will add to any future success for us. He hasn't shown anything that steps out and says - he is a must to keep. He lacks the spark which translates into results.

We are coming dead last this year by 2 games. He has started 9 games this year including against the Warriors, Knights and Titans in which we struggled in each of those to score points (in games in which we really shouldn't have).

He is 16 games into his NRL career and if we are real, we just haven't seen improvements from him that is selling himself to us fans that he belongs.

Lets break the contract situation down.

In 23 we have Brooks, AD, Hastings, Peachey & probably Brown signed up. That's 5 roster spots for halves. Yes Peachey/Brown/Hastings/AD can play other positions but they can also cover halves as well. The cash invested in this area is huge. After 23 though they are all off contract which opens the door for massive cash investment within the market if we want.

Madden will be 23 when the 23 season starts, not a rookie or even young when it comes to NRL players these days. He will want a 2-3yr deal = 26yrs old at the end of it. Do we honestly see enough now to warrant us to hedge our bets he can lead us up the ladder?

The cash play isn't a concern here, we have cap space - it's the ability to move up the ladder & play finals and win. I just don't see Madden as the answer for us here.

 

[Halbrowne61]

I understand perfectly ! It’s like sitting in the movies for 2 hours and then spending 10 mins trying to stand up and leave !!!

And the explanation of course is old footy injuries earned in so many tough games, all those years ago !!

 

[Halbrowne61]

I actually don't mind Madden but at the sametime just don't see how he will add to any future success for us. He hasn't shown anything that steps out and says - he is a must to keep. He lacks the spark which translates into results.

We are coming dead last this year by 2 games. He has started 9 games this year including against the Warriors, Knights and Titans in which we struggled in each of those to score points (in games in which we really shouldn't have).

He is 16 games into his NRL career and if we are real, we just haven't seen improvements from him that is selling himself to us fans that he belongs.

Isn’t young Camroux mooted as a future 1st grade player ?
I haven’t seen him play but seems like there is a positive vibe around him.
Feedback on him appreciated.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

Isn’t young Camroux mooted as a future 1st grade player ?
I haven’t seen him play but seems like there is a positive vibe around him.
Feedback on him appreciated.

That's the thing. We have some young halves in the ranks.
I haven't seen what others have in Camroux but know Demps and a few others though like the kid.

 

[supercoach]

Have we been linked to Brad Parker? He’s a great player mate he’s tough and runs a great line and knows how to defend

Agreed mate..close to the best defensive centre going around. Has had injury issues the last few seasons. Puts his body on the line so it might be catching up with him , but IMO just the sort of player we need in the short term, no super star, but a hard head who doesn’t take short cuts

 

[teddy23]

We lack serious speed and X factor

Hamiso Tabuai-Fidow use to play centre and is coming off the bench for the Cowboys... would definitely look at him as an option and bring some spark in our attack and maybe even potentially have a crack at FB and put pressure on Laurie.

Would much prefer him over Brad Parker

Let's not forget he was playing Origin as well....

Drinkwater has been exceptional under Payten and I don't see him letting Drinkwater go, he won't be moved to 6 cause of Deardon and Sheens has a good relantionship with Payten as well so could maybe be something there

 

[finnzo]

Agreed mate..close to the best defensive centre going around. Has had injury issues the last few seasons. Puts his body on the line so it might be catching up with him , but IMO just the sort of player we need in the short term, no super star, but a hard head who doesn’t take short cuts

I hope we are actually linked to him and not just forum talk

 

[supercoach]

Isn’t young Camroux mooted as a future 1st grade player ?
I haven’t seen him play but seems like there is a positive vibe around him.
Feedback on him appreciated.

Been uninspiring since coming back from Newcastle, but has been up and down through the lower grades so that doesn’t help

 

[tiger_scott]

But he would only be good for the night games

And only when we wear black

 

[SeanT]

Have we been linked to Brad Parker? He’s a great player mate he’s tough and runs a great line and knows how to defend

Defend yes. Offers nothing in attack.

 

[Stevec]

Sometimes I wonder if some people actually watch the games
" Brooks would have scored that Madden try a a few more too ?
"Madden has had ample opportunity to prove himself "
Brooks has had 9 years!
Anyway not going to argue anymore on this best to trust Sheens decisions
He's got so much right so far ?

 

[Stevec]

I am really concerned about our ability to recruit ,improve our roster and become a top 8 team next year
Lets look at what we have achieved in this area in the last year !
Moved Mbye on but still paid half his salary
Recruited Korisau and Papalii 10 months ago WELL DONE
Recruited Naden mid year was opportune as he seemed to fall out with dogs
Lost Mikhalae ,Leulua , and now Garner and Tuilagi
Lost maybe temporary Nofoaloma and Gildardt
Losing Madden Retiring Tamou
In last 3 or 4 months when it was possible to sign a couple of stars before their deals done with other clubs we've recruited ZERO
I suspect they tried but with no luck
We are regarded generally as a no go zone because of results and a background image of having a toxic environment
IMO we have only 2 stars on our books Doeuhi and Hastings
who I think sometimes wish they were elsewhere
The 2 additional stars to come next year is not enough !

Further to this I read Joffa wanting out !
Haven't resigned Douehi and Hastings beyond 2023 yet
Why ?
Wouldn't surprise if Nofo and Gildardt don't come back
Is Papalii really coming ????

 

[jadtiger]

Sometimes I wonder if some people actually watch the games
" Brooks would have scored that Madden try a a few more too ?
"Madden has had ample opportunity to prove himself "
Brooks has had 9 years!
Anyway not going to argue anymore on this best to trust Sheens decisions
He's got so much right so far ?

The next thing Sheens gets right will be the first thing he has got right since he got here.

 

[coivtny]

Further to this I read Joffa wanting out !
Haven't resigned Douehi and Hastings beyond 2023 yet
Why ?
Wouldn't surprise if Nofo and Gildardt don't come back
Is Papalii really coming ????

I'd only give you a guarantee on one of those - Papali'i is coming. Hastings would be a big loss, Douehi and Joffa would be losses but Nofo and Gildart are highly dispensable.

 

[king_sirro]

Agreed mate..close to the best defensive centre going around. Has had injury issues the last few seasons. Puts his body on the line so it might be catching up with him , but IMO just the sort of player we need in the short term, no super star, but a hard head who doesn’t take short cuts

Parker used to be a great defender, but he has been battered so badly the last 2 years he is a shadow of his former self. Wanted him 3 years ago, but not now

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Sometimes I wonder if some people actually watch the games
" Brooks would have scored that Madden try a a few more too ?
"Madden has had ample opportunity to prove himself "
Brooks has had 9 years!
Anyway not going to argue anymore on this best to trust Sheens decisions
He's got so much right so far ?

if Madden is so good why hasn't any team signed him yet for 2023 ...
don't see Newcastle asking for Madden they want brooks