Who made you captain?
Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion
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Halbrowne61
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I don’t know this guy at all but from your feedback sounds ok, is he a Pom or ???,age,
Do you think he has more potential than Laurie at fb coz doubt he would come as a half/5/8. Sounds like he might have some utility value, certainly better than the Peach, but not sure if we would splash the cash for him at 14.
Halbrowne61
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No one, I am just there as an assistant.
I love 2 up and it’s similar Lol
Mighty_Tiger
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Lets be real about this.
Madden has had ample opportunity to step up and deliver and he has struggled. He and his mgmt made some really clear contract views that he isn't getting a fair chance & he want's NRL commitment from us.
In his 9 starts this year he has had 1 good game, not a way to back the comments up & earn a contract which included terrible sides like the Warriors, Titans & Knights and was totally ineffective in which we lost in ugly games with.
His try assist wasn't great, yes it was a try assist in a 4 on 2 situation where 1 of those defenders raced up out of the line creating a 4 on 1 situation against 12 man team. He did his job and summed it up well, ran and passed.
He scored a great try which was setup by an even better offload from Musgrove it wasn't individual, he also had Brown unmarked on the inside and chose to step run himself and nearly got caught/fell over. He didn't create the try himself and this is the issue - he just doesn't create / identify / organise at the NRL level for others.
His data for the year shows his involvement levels & output are low for a halfback. He has touched the ball 30-40 times a game & has 3 try assists in 9 x 80min games (13 games all up) which just isn't the value for return a NRL halfback should provide.
I just don't see why we would pick him over Hastings, Brooks, AD next year all who offer us more than Madden currently does.
hank37w
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Brooks scores that try every day of the week and probably a few more on top.
Fair enough. I have a similar issue with bending. Makes putting socks on difficult. A lot of posters on here will think that's funny but they'll all be there one day.
Halbrowne61
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I understand perfectly ! It’s like sitting in the movies for 2 hours and then spending 10 mins trying to stand up and leave !!!
Mighty_Tiger
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I actually don't mind Madden but at the sametime just don't see how he will add to any future success for us. He hasn't shown anything that steps out and says - he is a must to keep. He lacks the spark which translates into results.
We are coming dead last this year by 2 games. He has started 9 games this year including against the Warriors, Knights and Titans in which we struggled in each of those to score points (in games in which we really shouldn't have).
He is 16 games into his NRL career and if we are real, we just haven't seen improvements from him that is selling himself to us fans that he belongs.
Lets break the contract situation down.
In 23 we have Brooks, AD, Hastings, Peachey & probably Brown signed up. That's 5 roster spots for halves. Yes Peachey/Brown/Hastings/AD can play other positions but they can also cover halves as well. The cash invested in this area is huge. After 23 though they are all off contract which opens the door for massive cash investment within the market if we want.
Madden will be 23 when the 23 season starts, not a rookie or even young when it comes to NRL players these days. He will want a 2-3yr deal = 26yrs old at the end of it. Do we honestly see enough now to warrant us to hedge our bets he can lead us up the ladder?
The cash play isn't a concern here, we have cap space - it's the ability to move up the ladder & play finals and win. I just don't see Madden as the answer for us here.
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Halbrowne61
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And the explanation of course is old footy injuries earned in so many tough games, all those years ago !!
Halbrowne61
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Isn’t young Camroux mooted as a future 1st grade player ?
I haven’t seen him play but seems like there is a positive vibe around him.
Feedback on him appreciated.
Mighty_Tiger
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That's the thing. We have some young halves in the ranks.
I haven't seen what others have in Camroux but know Demps and a few others though like the kid.
supercoach
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Agreed mate..close to the best defensive centre going around. Has had injury issues the last few seasons. Puts his body on the line so it might be catching up with him , but IMO just the sort of player we need in the short term, no super star, but a hard head who doesn’t take short cuts
teddy23
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We lack serious speed and X factor
Hamiso Tabuai-Fidow use to play centre and is coming off the bench for the Cowboys... would definitely look at him as an option and bring some spark in our attack and maybe even potentially have a crack at FB and put pressure on Laurie.
Would much prefer him over Brad Parker
Let's not forget he was playing Origin as well....
Drinkwater has been exceptional under Payten and I don't see him letting Drinkwater go, he won't be moved to 6 cause of Deardon and Sheens has a good relantionship with Payten as well so could maybe be something there
Hamiso Tabuai-Fidow use to play centre and is coming off the bench for the Cowboys... would definitely look at him as an option and bring some spark in our attack and maybe even potentially have a crack at FB and put pressure on Laurie.
Would much prefer him over Brad Parker
Let's not forget he was playing Origin as well....
Drinkwater has been exceptional under Payten and I don't see him letting Drinkwater go, he won't be moved to 6 cause of Deardon and Sheens has a good relantionship with Payten as well so could maybe be something there
finnzo
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I hope we are actually linked to him and not just forum talk
supercoach
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Been uninspiring since coming back from Newcastle, but has been up and down through the lower grades so that doesn’t help
tiger_scott
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And only when we wear black
Defend yes. Offers nothing in attack.
Sometimes I wonder if some people actually watch the games
" Brooks would have scored that Madden try a a few more too ?
"Madden has had ample opportunity to prove himself "
Brooks has had 9 years!
Anyway not going to argue anymore on this best to trust Sheens decisions
He's got so much right so far ?
" Brooks would have scored that Madden try a a few more too ?
"Madden has had ample opportunity to prove himself "
Brooks has had 9 years!
Anyway not going to argue anymore on this best to trust Sheens decisions
He's got so much right so far ?
Further to this I read Joffa wanting out !
Haven't resigned Douehi and Hastings beyond 2023 yet
Why ?
Wouldn't surprise if Nofo and Gildardt don't come back
Is Papalii really coming ????
The next thing Sheens gets right will be the first thing he has got right since he got here.
