Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Brooks has had more than enough time to lead the team. After 9 years going onto 10 he should be a leader he’s not even close to one. We need to try something different Brooks isn’t the answer. Not his fault for everything that’s happened but he hasn’t lifted when we needed him too.
you still receive a long service discount with Brooks so that restructured 2024 contract of $700k is really $500k
At 500k on the cap Sheens keeps him be that 7 or 6 with the difference he can offer Hastings the 200k extra to play 13
 
Leniu is 22 and carving it up.
His growth has huge potential. He is making breaks out of nothing & chases kicks down. Sure he is behind a Panthers pack but his effort and strength are on his drive & himself. He is an instant upgrade to our young pack.

Klemmer is an upgrade & instantly be our best prop, but we would need to move Musgrove or Twal. He still has years left to play as well.

I don’t however see how we can get both Leniu and Klemmer if we want Stefano to start as both would want to start. Our roster has alot of prop depth (not quality though) so players need to move or play other positions.

Getting either would also see Joe move to lock (Hastings either halfback or gone) unless he ends up on the left edge (mobility major issue).
 
Look at Klemmer's stats. He's absolutely still an elite prop and a capable pack leader. He generates second phase play and consistently gets over the advtanage line - a lot of this talk about his play being limited is wrong. He may not be the most damaging runner, but I'll take a guy who puts up a quality 150m+ and 25+ tackles a week no worries.
great player, no doubt about it. very hopeful we sign him as he is a massive upgrade on Tamou. I hope that it's not one or the other with Leniu and Klemmer. would love for us to have both. will finally create depth and competition for spots amongst our front rowers. also ensures that we have a heap of leaders for the likes of Matamua, Fa'agutu and Miller when they begin to play regular first grade.
 
you still receive a long service discount with Brooks so that restructured 2024 contract of $700k is really $500k
At 500k on the cap Sheens keeps him be that 7 or 6 with the difference he can offer Hastings the 200k extra to play 13
We shouldn’t be keeping Brooks at all after next year. I don’t give a crap that he’ll cost 500K after season I would rather spend our cap on a genuine 7 than pay Brooks again just to fail.
 
Even my Penrith Mates don't really rate Staines. He isn't the answer,

Daine L, will be like Papenhuyzen with a decent pack.

They didn't rate Laurie either I'll bet....
Laurie doesn't have Papenhuyzen work ethic....
Or his desire.

Laurie is bigger than Papenhuyzen and wouldn't have half the ticker...
- Need to be able to do more than catch a bomb sometimes for mine....
 
Personally think we should be throwing our hat in the David Fifita discussions

Both him and Spencer Leniu would be elite - both only 22
I don’t see Fifita leaving QLD but if he is up to it I’ll pass. Bloke is overrated IMO and the money it would cost to sign him ain’t worth it.
 
Garrick is a good goalkicking winger who can fill in at fullback. Laurie has great potential to play 1 or 6. Doueihi lacks the passing game and defence to be a 6.
Garrick has been solid playing Fullback at Manly I’ll be signing him to play 1 for us if we can. Laurie has potential but he’s got a lot to work on and we won’t make a decision to play him at 6 when he will most unlikely get to play 6 unless we have no other choice. Doueihi has stuff to work on as well but if we don’t snare Brown or Munster for 24, given there’s no other better talent to play 6 apart from them Doueihi will stay at 6.
 
Garrick is a good goalkicking winger who can fill in at fullback. Laurie has great potential to play 1 or 6. Doueihi lacks the passing game and defence to be a 6.

If Doueihi can't defend at 6 - Where's he defending?
Best support in Defence is 3 in... Flank by the centre and second rower.

If you can't do it there - You can't do it.
 
We shouldn’t be keeping Brooks at all after next year. I don’t give a crap that he’ll cost 500K after season I would rather spend our cap on a genuine 7 than pay Brooks again just to fail.

You wouldn't be on your own....
But there's 17 teams - And not 17 players that fill your requirements..
Out of the ones that are - Most are under contract outside next year

- So, You make it sound easy - who you getting?
 
Garrick has been solid playing Fullback at Manly I’ll be signing him to play 1 for us if we can. Laurie has potential but he’s got a lot to work on and we won’t make a decision to play him at 6 when he will most unlikely get to play 6 unless we have no other choice. Doueihi has stuff to work on as well but if we don’t snare Brown or Munster for 24, given there’s no other better talent to play 6 apart from them Doueihi will stay at 6.
I'd be giving Laurie as much ball as he wants. You want your best players touching the ball as much as possible. Whether that's at 1 or 6 is irrelevant. Listen how Billy Slater talks about Laurie to understand how good he is and will become.
 
If Doueihi can't defend at 6 - Where's he defending?
Best support in Defence is 3 in... Flank by the centre and second rower.

If you can't do it there - You can't do it.
Good question which Sheens will have to decide. In strong teams, weak defenders can be hidden. In our team, I'm not sure.
 
You wouldn't be on your own....
But there's 17 teams - And not 17 players that fill your requirements..
Out of the ones that are - Most are under contract outside next year

- So, You make it sound easy - who you getting?
At this point I just want Brooks gone and Knignts are the only team interested at this stage. If Moses did leave Parra to us I could see them becoming another team wanting Brooks. But there’s another half name Jonah Pezet at Storm stuck behind Hughes he’s one I will give a chance too from what I hear he’s real good. Maybe Blake Taffe as well or this one is unlikely but Sam Walker is available for 24 I would try and sign him so there’s at least 4 I would be willing to give a chance too we all know what will happen if Brooks stays regardless if he takes a massive pay cut it ain’t worth it.
 
I'd be giving Laurie as much ball as he wants. You want your best players touching the ball as much as possible. Whether that's at 1 or 6 is irrelevant. Listen how Billy Slater talks about Laurie to understand how good he is and will become.
I don’t see it from Laurie yet. He’s a long way off from being one of the best players in the game. If he doesn’t improve next year I got no issue with letting him go.
 
Anyway looks like we missed Bronson Xerri he is off to the Doggies by all reports from the guy I know at the Dog's and he looks like he has hit 🎯 so much Apple Juice or another flavour because he is absolutely massive
 
At this point I just want Brooks gone and Knignts are the only team interested at this stage. If Moses did leave Parra to us I could see them becoming another team wanting Brooks. But there’s another half name Jonah Pezet at Storm stuck behind Hughes he’s one I will give a chance too from what I hear he’s real good. Maybe Blake Taffe as well or this one is unlikely but Sam Walker is available for 24 I would try and sign him so there’s at least 4 I would be willing to give a chance too we all know what will happen if Brooks stays regardless if he takes a massive pay cut it ain’t worth it.

So Brooks is good enough for better teams than our - But not for you...

How is Pezet stuck behind Hughes? Wasn't Munster leaving a few posts back...
He's straight in for Munster - They've also just released Cooper Johns, (The recognised back up half) So fair chance Pezet is going no where.

Moses - Don't disagree, But getting him back is fantasy atm.... As is Walker.
If Taafe was a better 7 than Brooks, He'd be playing 7 somewhere already...

So - Outside your fantasies, And players not as good as Brooks (Like Taafe)
And your admission that you don't care if we don't have a halfback - Because you just want the one that we have at the moment gone....

I'll ask again, Who you getting?
Maybe we can get Chee Kam back and play him at 7...
It's obvious your point is personal and you don't care if we have an actual half playing there or not.
 
So Brooks is good enough for better teams than our - But not for you...

How is Pezet stuck behind Hughes? Wasn't Munster leaving a few posts back...
He's straight in for Munster - They've also just released Cooper Johns, (The recognised back up half) So fair chance Pezet is going no where.

Moses - Don't disagree, But getting him back is fantasy atm.... As is Walker.
If Taafe was a better 7 than Brooks, He'd be playing 7 somewhere already...

So - Outside your fantasies, And players not as good as Brooks (Like Taafe)
And your admission that you don't care if we don't have a halfback - Because you just want the one that we have at the moment gone....

I'll ask again, Who you getting?
Maybe we can get Chee Kam back and play him at 7...
It's obvious your point is personal and you don't care if we have an actual half playing there or not.
Fire up bra 🔥🤣
 

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