Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Jedi_Tiger said:
no guarantees Hastings will be here in 2024 either without Hastings at 13 you can't have AD and DL as running five eighths
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I'm talking 2023.

If Hastings goes in 2024 as @pawsandclaws1 mentioned, we've got the two young ball playing locks in Chris & Justin ready to go.

Matamua has a first grade contract for 2024, yeah?
 
Jedi_Tiger said:
Sheens and coaching staff don't share your opinion
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So then why are they letting him go, (if in fact they are).
Money ?
Surely if Sheens thinks he’s that worthwhile then money shouldn’t be the issue. But hasn’t he offered him a reduced contract, surely not the sign of someone who really wants to coach someone.
Imagine if anew boss came into your workplace and said , I really want you around but you’ll need to take a major pay cut ? What would you do coz I know what my response would be.
Well boss, one of our competitors has offered me good coin to join them ? Is that your best offer ?
Alternatives, maybe he has something cooking and is just sitting back waiting.
Somewhere I saw someone say he was looking at halves overseas, why do that if you want to coach Brooks. And why let Madden walk when maybe all he needed was the same sort of confidence from the coach.
So maybe he’s not looking at halves but other
positions and maybe Buzz’s articles and everyone else’s input are speculation rather than fact.
I guess we’ll all know in due course.
 
king_sirro said:
My Penrith mate rates Staines much higher then Laurie. Thinks his ball playing is very good and he is a fullback, not winger. I'm not convinced but hope he is right.

He was the best fullback in NSW cup, so I guess short of signing an established NRL fullback, it's the next best option. He has spent the last few years watching how hard Edwards has worked to improve his game, so I think there is a fair chance Staines will work his butt off to make the 1 his own. I also believe Sheens will have Hastings controlling the middle from 13 with Laurie wearing the 7. Hastings and Laurie doing the short kicking with Doueihi doing the long kicking. Just what I think Sheens will do.
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Agree mate, was a stand out in flegg and NSW cup now just needs to realise he can do it in first grade now
 
Mighty_Tiger said:
Instant uplift of speed.

Defensively we are shot but Sheens isn’t playing a defensive strategy.
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Theres a lot of smarts in that spine.

Api, genius.

AD, he's up there with Burton for best kickers in the game these days imo and hopefully continues to work on that in the off season amongst his other weaknesses.

Laurie, ball runner with some good footwork.

Hastings in the 13 directing the show and The Ferrari at the back, hopefully running the ball up fearlessly.

Get the right forwards in and the only direction is forward.

We don't need Brooks.
We need Klemmer and a few other hitters.
 
Demps said:
I'm talking 2023.

If Hastings goes in 2024 as @pawsandclaws1 mentioned, we've got the two young ball playing locks in Chris & Justin ready to go.

Matamua has a first grade contract for 2024, yeah?
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agree so if Hastings signs say for the dogs in 2024 Hastings plays out his contract 2023 and goes in 2024
but you are saying Brooks won't play out his 2023 contract and go on 2024 he has to go now
what I am getting at is it makes zero sense to release Brooks in 2023 he has said all along he wouldn't be release so that changes this week?? As pom has said the klemmer deal has nothing to do with Brooks signing for 2024
Matamua is not the ball playing lock Sheens would look for. If Brooks goes 2024 he will try for Moses as a 7
 
Jedi_Tiger said:
agree so if Hastings signs say for the dogs in 2024 Hastings plays out his contract 2023 and goes in 2024
but you are saying Brooks won't play out his 2023 contract and go on 2024 he has to go now
Matamua is not the ball playing lock Sheens would look for. If Brooks goes 2024 he will try for Moses as a 7
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Why would matamua not be sheens ideal ball playing lock
He’s played he’s all he’s juniors in that role and has excelled at the role
 
Demps said:
I'm talking 2023.

If Hastings goes in 2024 as @pawsandclaws1 mentioned, we've got the two young ball playing locks in Chris & Justin ready to go.

Matamua has a first grade contract for 2024, yeah?
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Wouldn't br suprised if Hastings goes to Canberra or something. If Other better clubs will offer him a starting half position he'd go.

That would be for 2024 anyway.

Hopefully by then matamua and also Chris Fa’agutu could replace at 13

Think we just need to settle on our half combo.

Hopefully Staines owns the 1.

Think there's going to be a crap load of movement
 
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tony soprano said:
Wouldn't br suprised if Hastings goes to Canberra or something. If Other better clubs will offer him a starting half position he'd go.

That would be for 2024 anyway.

Hopefully bt the matamua and also Chris Fa’agutu could replace at 13

Think we just need to settle on our half combo.

Hopefully Staines owns the 1.

Think there's going to be a crap load of movement
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According to @Demps if you sign in 2024 you can be released in 2023
so if Hastings signs with dogs or whoever in 2024 he can go in 2023 apparently
 
Demps said:
Theres a lot of smarts in that spine.

Api, genius.

AD, he's up there with Burton for best kickers in the game these days imo and hopefully continues to work on that in the off season amongst his other weaknesses.

Laurie, ball runner with some good footwork.

Hastings in the 13 directing the show and The Ferrari at the back, hopefully running the ball up fearlessly.

Get the right forwards in and the only direction is forward.

We don't need Brooks.
We need Klemmer and a few other hitters.
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But isn’t your 7 the equivalent of the quarterback, gets things moving, organising plays etc. I’ve heard Peter Sterling and Joey Johns say many times that the 7 has a critical role.
I’m not saying that Brooks is the right answer just that you need someone very capable in that role or the spine is very wobbly.
Cleary, Hynes, Moses, etc.
 
We’ll have to stump up for a penis enlargement for the Wimpy Kid and Bailey Simonsson made him look real pedestrian in the grand final but Peachey was a boat anchor so I suppose we got our nose slightly in front in this one.
 
Demps said:
Exercise common sense.

Even if you don't believe the reports of this being the third time Brooks has asked for a release - where there is smoke, there is fire.

Pom has alluded to this information being factual so if you trust his sources, it's there for the taking.

Yeah, Sheens is a fan of him and wants to work with him.... but all signs are pointing to the feeling isn't mutual.

Adam plays 7, Laurie plays 6.
Hastings stays at 13.
See ya Brooks.

Problem solved.
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Hey Demps tell me how you really feel.🤣
 
Halbrowne61 said:
But isn’t your 7 the equivalent of the quarterback, gets things moving, organising plays etc. I’ve heard Peter Sterling and Joey Johns say many times that the 7 has a critical role.
I’m not saying that Brooks is the right answer just that you need someone very capable in that role or the spine is very wobbly.
Cleary, Hynes, Moses, etc.
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The quarterback role is Hastings, they’ve trialled that play style out this year and beat 2 top 4 teams
So clearly works
 
Jedi_Tiger said:
agree so if Hastings signs say for the dogs in 2024 Hastings plays out his contract 2023 and goes in 2024
but you are saying Brooks won't play out his 2023 contract and go on 2024 he has to go now
Matamua is not the ball playing lock Sheens would look for. If Brooks goes 2024 he will try for Moses as a 7
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Hastings hasn't requested 3 releases....

He's openly stated he wants to stay at the Tigers and be apart of what we're building.

What I'm saying.... is, imo... Brooks is as good as gone.

I'm basing this on the information we've been told and confirmed by @THE_POM ... can you think the media backlash around us denying a player a release two years in a row when he's desperately wanting out? All we heard on 360 this year was how Brooks and the club need to part ways and its best for all parties involved, especially Brooks. Think of the mental anguish if would put one through being forced to play on at a club he clearly does not want to be at? Think of how that would effect his performances? (Lolllll) is that the narrative Sheens wants in the media?

Sometimes it's easier and for the best to just let something go, no matter how much you (or Sheens)loves it, especially if it doesn't love you back.
 
Demps said:
Hastings hasn't requested 3 releases....

He's openly stated he wants to stay at the Tigers and be apart of what we're building.

What I'm saying.... is, imo... Brooks is as good as gone.

I'm basing this on the information we've been told and confirmed by @THE_POM ... can you think the media backlash around us denying a player a release two years in a row when he's desperately wanting out? All we heard on 360 this year was how Brooks and the club need to part ways and its best for all parties involved, especially Brooks. Think of the mental anguish if would put one through being forced to play on at a club he clearly does not want to be at? Think of how that would effect his performances? (Lolllll) is that the narrative Sheens wants in the media?

Sometimes it's easier and for the best to just let something go, no matter how much you (or Sheens)loves it, especially if it doesn't love you back.
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Hastings will re-sign unless we don't want him (can't imagine that situation). He implied in an interview somewhere that it's not good to change clubs so often as it hurts your personal development. If he left after 2023, that would be 4 clubs in 6 years. I imagine he wants to stay longer to see where one particular path can take him.
 
Jedi_Tiger said:
agree so if Hastings signs say for the dogs in 2024 Hastings plays out his contract 2023 and goes in 2024
but you are saying Brooks won't play out his 2023 contract and go on 2024 he has to go now
what I am getting at is it makes zero sense to release Brooks in 2023 he has said all along he wouldn't be release so that changes this week?? As pom has said the klemmer deal has nothing to do with Brooks signing for 2024
Matamua is not the ball playing lock Sheens would look for. If Brooks goes 2024 he will try for Moses as a 7
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If he hasn’t spoken with Moses already, which is my take on it.
I think we saw from Lucy and Tuilagi that when you sign elsewhere you drop your bundle and Sheens should not have that situation occur.
It has to be all hands on deck !
Imo If they want to go, then let them go straight away
 
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