Russian invasion of Ukraine

I think there is a strong chance this is like the Bolsheviks v2. Ukraine hijacked by the you-know-who's and trying to bring globalism to Russia.
BUT this is no excuse for invading Ukraine.
I watched a video months ago filmed by phone of a meeting involving the deputies and it was of a presentation of after the war is over in the Ukraine and they build a iron curtain over Kiev and how the Ukraine becomes the first smart country in the world and world leader it was crazy they already have a plan and everyday people who have to suffer the Americans want it bomb down to rubble and will do enough to make it looks like they are helping and trickle in the money so they can steel it evil on both sides
 
Those poor citizens in Donbas in Eastern Ukraine who have been torn by war thanks by the Ukrainians for years and years and most of whom are speak Russian and want to join Russia.

Ever since the US interfered with 2014 elections.

About time Putin stood up to Biden; his son Hunter and all the USA dealings on Russias door step.

I mean Enough is enough

 
Those poor citizens in Donbas in Eastern Ukraine who have been torn by war thanks by the Ukrainians for years and years and most of whom are speak Russian and want to join Russia.
Bollocks, the conflict in eastern Ukraine in 2014 was kicked off by a covert Russian invasion - the 'separatists' were from the start created, armed and led by Russia. Unless you think Igor Girkin is a Ukrainian?
The idea that Ukraine was attacking 'Russian speakers' is a joke, but it is a consistent talking point of Kremlin media. In reality the Ukrainian president himself is a Russian speaker, and the most strident Ukrainian nationalists that Russia calls 'Nazis' (e.g Azov) are majority Russian speakers. The cities that Russia has completely destroyed (e.g. Mariupol, Severodonetsk) are majority Russian speaking cities. They were doing just fine as part of Ukraine until the Russians came to terrorise them.

PS 'Russian-speaking Ukrainian' does not equal 'ethnic Russian'.
 
Bollocks, the conflict in eastern Ukraine in 2014 was kicked off by a covert Russian invasion - the 'separatists' were from the start created, armed and led by Russia. Unless you think Igor Girkin is a Ukrainian?
The idea that Ukraine was attacking 'Russian speakers' is a joke, but it is a consistent talking point of Kremlin media. In reality the Ukrainian president himself is a Russian speaker, and the most strident Ukrainian nationalists that Russia calls 'Nazis' (e.g Azov) are majority Russian speakers. The cities that Russia has completely destroyed (e.g. Mariupol, Severodonetsk) are majority Russian speaking cities. They were doing just fine as part of Ukraine until the Russians came to terrorise them.

PS 'Russian-speaking Ukrainian' does not equal 'ethnic Russian'.

Correct a language is just a language,the perfect example is English because by far the majority of people who speak English do not live there and do not classify themselves as "English"
 
Correct a language is just a language,the perfect example is English because by far the majority of people who speak English do not live there and do not classify themselves as "English"
I suppose by this torturous logic he would support Anschluss or a British invasion of Australia and/or New Zealand.
 
Bollocks, the conflict in eastern Ukraine in 2014 was kicked off by a covert Russian invasion - the 'separatists' were from the start created, armed and led by Russia. Unless you think Igor Girkin is a Ukrainian?
The idea that Ukraine was attacking 'Russian speakers' is a joke, but it is a consistent talking point of Kremlin media. In reality the Ukrainian president himself is a Russian speaker, and the most strident Ukrainian nationalists that Russia calls 'Nazis' (e.g Azov) are majority Russian speakers. The cities that Russia has completely destroyed (e.g. Mariupol, Severodonetsk) are majority Russian speaking cities. They were doing just fine as part of Ukraine until the Russians came to terrorise them.

PS 'Russian-speaking Ukrainian' does not equal 'ethnic Russian'.
The orthodox US account that Russia/ Putin alone is responsible for the new Cold War hangs largely on his alleged unprovoked “aggression” against Ukraine in 2014 and ever since. (The narrative is sustained in part by the near-total absence of American mainstream reporting of what actually happened in Kiev-controlled or rebel-controlled territories.) In fact, Putin’s actions both in Donbass, where an indigenous rebellion broke out against the overthrow of the legally elected president in Kiev and in Crimea, which had been part of Russia for more than 200 years (about as long as the United States has existed), was a direct reaction to the longstanding campaign by Washington and Brussels to bring Ukraine into NATO’s “sphere of influence.” That itself was a form of political aggression against the centuries of intimate relations between large segments of Ukrainian society and Russia, including family ties.

At the very least, it was reckless and immoral for Washington and the European Union to impose upon Kiev a choice between Russia and the West, thereby fostering, if not precipitating, civil war. And to flatly reject Putin’s counter-proposal for a three-way Ukrainian-Russian-EU economic relationship. In this regard, Washington and the EU bear considerable responsibility for the 10,000 who have died in the ensuing Ukrainian civil and proxy war. They have yet to assume any responsibility at all.

Oh and while we’re at it @TillLindemann While we’re talking about the Ukrainian civil war (and US-Russian proxy war) , we need to recall some of the disgraceful episodes of the proclaimed “Revolution of Dignity.” That history includes the following episodes:

• The violent overthrow of Ukraine’s constitutionally elected president, Viktor Yanukovych, in February 2014.

• Kiev’s refusal to seriously investigate the “Maidan snipers,” whose killings precipitated Yanukovych’s ouster, assassins who now seem to have been not his agents, as initially alleged, but those of right-wing Maidan forces.

• The new government’s similar refusal to prosecute extreme nationalists behind the subsequent massacre of pro-Russian protesters in Odessa shortly later in 2014.

• And the new Maidan government’s unwillingness to negotiate with suddenly disenfranchised regions of Eastern Ukraine, which had largely voted for Yanukovych, and instead to launch an “anti-terrorist” military assault on them.

• Even Poroshenko’s subsequent election as president was questionably democratic, opposition regions and parties having been effectively banned.
 
Yes how dare he get invaded.

Gas prices up, world wide inflation, house hikes. Debilitating taxes everywhere. Billions are sent
To his corrupt government.
Russia told them to [This word has been automatically removed] off
And not encroach from the
East I hope they take it all
Cyrillic is an alphabet not a language.

Slavic. Russian
They speak it in the Donbass region and Crimea Don't get Smart.
 
Slavic. Russian
They speak it in the Donbass region and Crimea Don't get Smart.
Mate you're just using words devoid of their meaning. Cyrillic is an alphabet, Slavic is a language family, Russian is a language.

In the same way that English is a language, Germanic is its language family, and Latin is its alphabet.

And none of it is a reason for Putin's failing war.
 
Gas prices up, world wide inflation, house hikes. Debilitating taxes everywhere. Billions are sent
To his corrupt government.
Russia told them to [This word has been automatically removed] off
And not encroach from the
East I hope they take it all
Yeah my mates in SPB with his Russian wife and laughing at the rest of Europe
 
Mate you're just using words devoid of their meaning. Cyrillic is an alphabet, Slavic is a language family, Russian is a language.

In the same way that English is a language, Germanic is its language family, and Latin is its alphabet.

And none of it is a reason for Putin's failing war.

They speak it in Donbass
And Crimea I think u'll find.
 
Just adding to my above comment (apologies for the tangential comments)

All these events precipitated officially in the name of “European values” and in order to “join Europe,” and with the full support of the West, particularly the Obama administration. Two years later, the Ukrainian civil war has took nearly 10,000 lives, created perhaps 2 million refugees, empowered armed quasi-fascist forces that left the country in near economic and social ruin.
 

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