pawsandclaws1
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Robinson, Hasler and Sheens are all premiership winning coaches. You've given Sheens a serve but perhaps these coaches know what it takes to assemble and nurture a squad capable of contesting for the premiership.
Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion
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I'd say every premiership coach knows what players are the type they need to win a premiership but if they havnt got access to them when other clubs do, then they are on a hiding to nothing - despite any success they may have had previously.
The success of any club relies on a lot more than just an ex premiership winning coach no matter who it is.
pawsandclaws1
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"Consistently"
good luck and goodbye
Probably just lazy media just making stuff up as usual but if there really is any serious bad blood between the two, this needs sorting out as soon as Bateman is confirmed.
Looking at Hastings solely as a player his best attribute was not his ball playing skills, nor his kicking game, not his D, nor his ability to score or assist try scoring. It was not his durability, nor his speed or his fitness - it was his desire and his determination to communicate and to direct the players around him and his high effort level for 80 minutes.
Now at the Tigers, this particular strength has been uncommon and because as fans we have been sadly missing this, we have tended to look at him as some kind of irreplaceable general. But actually he is not. The fact is, his only real strength is one of many that are the norm with quality NRL players and what we should be expecting with every good player that wears a Tigers jersey.
Due to injury Hastings is now possibly not even as mobile as he was. As much as i like the guy for his effort, I realistically do not see him as a GF winning half.
Now at the Tigers, this particular strength has been uncommon and because as fans we have been sadly missing this, we have tended to look at him as some kind of irreplaceable general. But actually he is not. The fact is, his only real strength is one of many that are the norm with quality NRL players and what we should be expecting with every good player that wears a Tigers jersey.
Due to injury Hastings is now possibly not even as mobile as he was. As much as i like the guy for his effort, I realistically do not see him as a GF winning half.
innsaneink
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We havent won a game yet
Enjoyed your constructive comments Tito re Hastings. Mighty Mouse has his opinions, I have mine. At this stage in his career he's taken us to the spoon and been banished by Manly to the Super League. Time will tell, but some are carrying on like we are potentially getting rid of Cooper Cronk.
Laurie doesn't have the instinct yet to push up with the ball runner so the criticism is 100% spot on. It's a part of his game he needs to work on big time. He has his chance next year with some real good offloaders in the pack should we get Klemmer and Bateman. I'm hoping he comes good 👍
So Hastings took us to the spoon? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
He was one of only a few blokes actually having a go.
Blame the bludgers and perennial losers around him before laying the blame on him.
I'm not putting the blame entirely on him but his passion didn't rub off on the rest of the team unfortunately. I don't dislike Hastings at all but he's not the player to take us to the promise land.
426Tlgerland
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With out checking I would think Jacko was on the field when we won our 3 games
I would also think he was on the field with our close score losses , Tigers getting beat by 10 or less
He has a real crack prior to injury , there were about 15 out of our 30 who were bog average
I would also think he was on the field with our close score losses , Tigers getting beat by 10 or less
He has a real crack prior to injury , there were about 15 out of our 30 who were bog average
innsaneink
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Didnt mind Austin, big mobile unit I reckon could develop into a good player
Jacko was present in our 4 wins we beat Parra, Souths, Dogs and Broncos but he didn’t finish that one as Carrigan took him out. Most of our close games Jacko was there think there was 3 he missed that were close. The rest we were pumped.
Tiger_Fanatic3
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‘I want Luke here’: Why Sheens won’t let Brooks walk without a fight
One of the last things Tim Sheens did before he was sacked by Wests Tigers a decade ago was convince a young Luke Brooks to commit to the club.
He never got the chance to work with him then, which is why Sheens is in no mood now to let him go to Newcastle.
Newcastle coach Adam O’Brien had the chance on Friday to shoot down speculation about Brooks joining the Knights for the 2023 season, but instead added to the intrigue when he said: “I’m not too sure ... when the list is finalised, I’ll coach that list”.
Sheens, though, was unequivocal. “I want Luke here,” he told The Sun-Herald. “It’s not our intention to release him, and there’s been no request from Newcastle. It’s been talked and talked and talked about.
“He’s due to turn up here on November 14, and I’m looking forward to working with him. Benji [Marshall] and I are looking forward to getting our hands on him.
“Right at the moment, there’s been no movement from the Knights and we’re moving forward with him as our halfback.
“He still has his legs, he has speed, he’s brave, and if you needed to find someone to replace him, you wouldn’t find that [an] easy task either.
“The last thing I did at the Tigers was to convince him, Mitchell Moses and James Tedesco to sign here. They were our next spine at the time. I never got the chance to work with Brooksy then. I’m looking forward to working with him now next year.”
Brooks is due to report for pre-season training on Monday week and is free to officially strike a deal elsewhere for 2024, now he is entering the final year of his Tigers contract.
The Knights were convinced they had secured Brooks for the start of last season. The fact the move never eventuated arguably left the Hunter club scrambling.
Sheens will not open negotiations with Brooks or Doueihi until the new year, even if it leaves them exposed to the advances of rivals.
The 72-year-old was relieved Doueihi pulled through the World Cup campaign uninjured after Lebanon’s campaign ended against Australia early Saturday. He will not resume training until the new year.
Sheens’ two-year tenure in charge started on Wednesday, alongside his 2025 successor Marshall.
While Sheens refused to discuss the pending arrival of English enforcer John Bateman – “I’ll only talk about the guys we’ve already got and signed” – he labelled Api Koroisau “the best advertisement for the club”, and someone who was already on the ground talking to prospective players.
Only the most rusted-on Tigers fan would dare to dream about a premiership in 2023. A finals berth will be the goal, but September football looks a more likely target the following year.
Sheens pointed out the club not once fielded a full-strength side last year, which included the trials. They lost nine games by 10 points or less, he said, which included eight games by eight points or fewer. Tommy Talau and Shawn Blore did not feature at all because of injury.
One player who did report for day one of pre-season training was Randwick rugby captain Ben Houston, a No.6 in rugby who “is big and rangy and a front-row proposition”, Sheens said. (SMH)
diedpretty
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Those 4 are all there in 2024 plus Burton on probably a significant increase.
Mighty_Tiger
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He also played when we sucked and in some games struggled to score any points. didn’t score a try against the Warriors, got thumped by the Bulldogs, struggled to score against the Dragons & Knights.
Sheens is waiting for Newcastle to approach him re: Brooks, Newcastle are waiting for the Tigers to release him.....sounds like a Mexican standoff......
tony soprano
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Next two 2-3 year spine players remain a mystery.
