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EXCLUSIVE: Tigers great Benny Elias' surprising call on nephew Mitchell Moses

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Tigers great Benny Elias believes a move back to Leichhardt would be an impossible sell to his nephew, gun Eels halfback Mitchell Moses.


Moses played his junior footy in the Parramatta system, but his uncle Elias was on the Tigers board when he originally signed with the Concord club in 2011 - three years before his NRL debut in 2014.


Moses spent three seasons playing for the Tigers before he signed with the Eels for the 2018 season. He was then granted an early release midway through 2017.

Now the 28-year-old's playing future is again under the microscope, off-contract and baulking at a million-dollar offer from the Eels.


"I should be screaming from the roof for the Tigers, but I once upon a time got him over to the Tigers, and they let him go," Elias told Wide World of Sports.


"How do you sell that back to him? I've been there, done that. Move on.


"It wasn't a pretty exit, you know, he left with Aaron Woods and James Tedesco - all three of them left together ... and it's hard to go back.


"Fool me once, I can cop that, but fool me twice."


The Eels on Monday morning announced they had resigned No.6 Dylan Brown until the end of 2025, with player options that could see him in blue and gold until 2031.


The deal could end up being one of the longest in the club's history.

Eels chief executive Jim Sarantinos said there was no deadline on the club's offer to Moses, or danger of Brown's new deal tipping his halves partner out of the club.

"Keeping Dylan doesn't have anything to do with the offer we have for Mitch, not from our perspective," Sarantinos told the Sydney Morning Herald.

"Mitch and Dylan have both been priorities for us and that remains the case. Our desire is for Mitch to stay, we've made that very clear to him and his manager and hopefully he does stay."

Moses has also fielded interest from the Bulldogs. Elias said while a halves combination of Moses and Matt Burton would be formidable at Canterbury, re-signing with the Eels was his best option.

He said Brown's re-signing is a massive boost to Parramatta, which lost this year's grand final to Penrith.

"I strongly believe that whether it be in the working environment or the sporting environment ... if you're happy, you stay there. And it's easy to stay there if you're happy," Elias said.

"He's been very happy. They've been very good to him, and he's been very good to them. It's been a very good two-way relationship."

"(Moses with Brown) they've got a great combination. They know each other's personalities, they know each other's play.

"His No.6 is going to be there for a long time - he's signed a long-term contract ... he's put his shoes under the bed.

"We haven't seen the best of (Moses) yet."
 
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Each player (men and women) that participates in an NRL or NRLW game is brave and we have many women now playing rugby league.
Each player (men and women) that participates in an NRL or NRLW game is brave and we have many women now playing rugby league.
oh please .. take a chill pill, relax and and have a coffee .. i have no disregard for the men and women who play the game .. i'm only stating that i hope Brooks steps up this season .. for once .. !!
 
Apart from being cringeworthy, the Tigertales doco gave us real insight into the Tigers dressing room…for me what stuck out is the shouting and screaming at players is old school, doesn’t work (apart for Bellamy)….Madge’s coaching methods do not resonate with this generation of footballers…he was well intended, but just could not deliver…
The bigger issue was no player talk ......the players have to believe in themselves and talk up the game plan .......no matter what the scoreline
 
EXCLUSIVE: Tigers great Benny Elias' surprising call on nephew Mitchell Moses

WWOS

Tigers great Benny Elias believes a move back to Leichhardt would be an impossible sell to his nephew, gun Eels halfback Mitchell Moses.


Moses played his junior footy in the Parramatta system, but his uncle Elias was on the Tigers board when he originally signed with the Concord club in 2011 - three years before his NRL debut in 2014.


Moses spent three seasons playing for the Tigers before he signed with the Eels for the 2018 season. He was then granted an early release midway through 2017.


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Now the 28-year-old's playing future is again under the microscope, off-contract and baulking at a million-dollar offer from the Eels.


"I should be screaming from the roof for the Tigers, but I once upon a time got him over to the Tigers, and they let him go," Elias told Wide World of Sports.


"How do you sell that back to him? I've been there, done that. Move on.


"It wasn't a pretty exit, you know, he left with Aaron Woods and James Tedesco - all three of them left together ... and it's hard to go back.


"Fool me once, I can cop that, but fool me twice."


The Eels on Monday morning announced they had resigned No.6 Dylan Brown until the end of 2025, with player options that could see him in blue and gold until 2031.


The deal could end up being one of the longest in the club's history.

Eels chief executive Jim Sarantinos said there was no deadline on the club's offer to Moses, or danger of Brown's new deal tipping his halves partner out of the club.

"Keeping Dylan doesn't have anything to do with the offer we have for Mitch, not from our perspective," Sarantinos told the Sydney Morning Herald.

"Mitch and Dylan have both been priorities for us and that remains the case. Our desire is for Mitch to stay, we've made that very clear to him and his manager and hopefully he does stay."

Moses has also fielded interest from the Bulldogs. Elias said while a halves combination of Moses and Matt Burton would be formidable at Canterbury, re-signing with the Eels was his best option.

He said Brown's re-signing is a massive boost to Parramatta, which lost this year's grand final to Penrith.

"I strongly believe that whether it be in the working environment or the sporting environment ... if you're happy, you stay there. And it's easy to stay there if you're happy," Elias said.

"He's been very happy. They've been very good to him, and he's been very good to them. It's been a very good two-way relationship."

"(Moses with Brown) they've got a great combination. They know each other's personalities, they know each other's play.

"His No.6 is going to be there for a long time - he's signed a long-term contract ... he's put his shoes under the bed.

"We haven't seen the best of (Moses) yet."

I wish Mr rent-a-quote would stop advocating so hard for the team he's supposed to have an affinity for. I remember in 2005 standing on Victoria Rd outside Balmain leagues and he was front and centre on the stairs hamming it up for the crowds. The bloke is a leech and we really need to cut him off from sucking anymore blood from us. He's got nothing to do with us and anything he touches in regards to us turns to shit.
 
I didn’t think Tommy was in the centre’s anymore?
Yeah he's like Douhie. No idea what position he is. If we got Ramien hypothetically which we won't, be kicking themselves they signed Naden on a long deal.
 
Apart from being cringeworthy, the Tigertales doco gave us real insight into the Tigers dressing room…for me what stuck out is the shouting and screaming at players is old school, doesn’t work (apart for Bellamy)….Madge’s coaching methods do not resonate with this generation of footballers…he was well intended, but just could not deliver…
Yea bellamy is a special case
 
I wish Mr rent-a-quote would stop advocating so hard for the team he's supposed to have an affinity for. I remember in 2005 standing on Victoria Rd outside Balmain leagues and he was front and centre on the stairs hamming it up for the crowds. The bloke is a leech and we really need to cut him off from sucking anymore blood from us. He's got nothing to do with us and anything he touches in regards to us turns to shit.
Club LEGENDS don't talk and act like he does

Could you see Skando or Hodgo or Darren Senter having an interview like that

Piss off Back Door Benny ...we Qlders were right ...you are a tugger .....
 
Yeah he's like Douhie. No idea what position he is. If we got Ramien hypothetically which we won't, be kicking themselves they signed Naden on a long deal.
No my comment was referring to one of the inside info comments someone made that he’d bulked up a bit and was gunna be tried in the second row instead of centre.
 
im Not concerned if we miss Moses
Brooks under Sheens I think he will improve and with Benji in the mix with his ideas all they need to do is select the right person to play beside him , AD , Laurie , ? I don’t know but with the players we have signed and Bateman as a possible we will be able to get on top of teams , last season we were a beaten pack week in week out , we now have some solid aggression in Klemmer and Pappi as well as Blore and Pole , good organising player in Appi , Speed with Stains coming in , it’s not all bad it’s pretty dam good compared to season gone by , I know a gun 1/2 and 5/8 are required but we will be fine maybe Smith is the smokey at 1/2 with Brooks to 5/8 , AD at 5/8 brooks to 1/2 there are options
 
He really is pathetic. Puts down the club whenever he can but tries to eat his cake by trying to make deals around them.

You are not Wests Tigers. You never played for them.
Unless Moses has 100% bought into the Sheens/Benji “sell”…Back door Elias has effectively told us Mitch ain’t coming to the Tigers…I mentioned this 2 weeks ago Elias is setting WT up for a soft landing… no matter how much money we throw at him….still nothing official, but read between the lines and there is your answer…
 
im Not concerned if we miss Moses
Brooks under Sheens I think he will improve and with Benji in the mix with his ideas all they need to do is select the right person to play beside him , AD , Laurie , ? I don’t know but with the players we have signed and Bateman as a possible we will be able to get on top of teams , last season we were a beaten pack week in week out , we now have some solid aggression in Klemmer and Pappi as well as Blore and Pole , good organising player in Appi , Speed with Stains coming in , it’s not all bad it’s pretty dam good compared to season gone by , I know a gun 1/2 and 5/8 are required but we will be fine maybe Smith is the smokey at 1/2 with Brooks to 5/8 , AD at 5/8 brooks to 1/2 there are options
With the Christmas break nearly upon us, the timing is perfect for an announcement on Friday or Saturday regardless of which way the decision goes. This is more the case if it is bad news.
 
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I know the club is chasing Moses but when that fails, can anyone tell me who our backup halves will be?
Laurie is not a halfback or 5/8 so please do not say that and god help us if that is Sheens fall back plan (which would not surprise me).
Hookers should be hookers and not be manufactured halves. I still have nightmares when Sheens thought Johnny Morris was the next Cooper Cronk.

My suggestions:
  1. Kurt Falls
  2. Brandon Wakeman
  3. Albert Kelly
  4. Phoenix Crossland
Just a real lack of talent across the league in the halves in my opinion. We are basically banking on Brooks and Doueihi and no one putting any pressure on them and I am struggling to see anyone the club should recruit.

@KingRobbie - is there any halves that you may have seen trailing or are they just young blokes like Zane Camroux who is basically not up to that level.

Having someone like Tristian Reilly in a top 30 contract is such a huge mistake when this contract should be passed to recruit a decent backup half.
The only halves trialling over pre-season are Camroux, Will Smith, Kade Hill and Luke Knight.

We know Smith is just a fringe first-grader who can sometimes do a job; not sure if the others will end up making it.

Knight has joined us from the Roosters and he’s a fullback/half so haven’t seen heaps of him.

I thought Kade Hill was very good this year at Jersey Flegg level.
Not sure if his skill will translate to first grade, as he’s all skin and bones, but he’ll start the year in NSW Cup and go from there.

Have also read a few times that they’re training Reilly as a half, not as an outside back, interestingly enough.
 
The bigger issue was no player talk ......the players have to believe in themselves and talk up the game plan .......no matter what the scoreline
Has to be leadership on the field or no matter how the coach delivers his halftime talk - yelling or whispering - in the heat of the battle some one has to lead that others will follow and set the standard on the field.
 
The only halves trialling over pre-season are Camroux, Will Smith, Kade Hill and Luke Knight.

We know Smith is just a fringe first-grader who can sometimes do a job; not sure if the others will end up making it.

Knight has joined us from the Roosters and he’s a fullback/half so haven’t seen heaps of him.

I thought Kade Hill was very good this year at Jersey Flegg level.
Not sure if his skill will translate to first grade, as he’s all skin and bones, but he’ll start the year in NSW Cup and go from there.

Have also read a few times that they’re training Reilly as a half, not as an outside back, interestingly enough.
What’s that, are saying Tristan Reilly the union centre that can’t tackle a been bag glued to the lounge room floor is training at halfback?
 

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