Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Glenji95 said:
He’s not writing him off but after how long he’s been with us you can see why he’s doubtful and I don’t blame him.
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Hardly played last year, new coaches this year as much as you would like to label him a perennial loser people are capable of change. Give him to round 1.
 
jrtiger said:
he's the only halfback I think that would work in the allotted timeframe besides Brooks. 29 next year, three year deal would be perfect and give one of our young halves time to develop before taking the jersey in '27 next to Large.
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I'd do the AD extension scenario make him earn it this year.
 
ovoevo said:
George Williams is only 28. He certainly isn't past his best. If anything I'd say he's getting better. His form has been a bit up and down since he returned to Warrington. But that's more because he had arguably the worst pack in the competition and a coach who went scorched earth after taking over leading almost to open revolt. The moment Williams was taken out of the lunatic asylum and into the hands of his old coach, Shaun Wane, he was among the top players in the World Cup. The guy has one of the best short kicking games I've seen. Not afraid to attack the line. Good support player. Extremely solid defender. If we didn't have Dodd, Lomax & Welsby as our spine I'd have no problems with George. Top player. Whether he wants to go back to the NRL after Sticky outrageously blackened his name to anyone who would listen .... I'm not so sure.
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George Williams has the game that would be amazing behind a good pack. Doesn't play like a traditional 7. Almost every play he tries to rush the advantage line and put defenders under pressure. Would combine well with Api Koroisau.
 
Mighty_Tiger said:
Both when on their game are direct runners as well, they do straighten into the line and it will create issues if our forwards dominate. They play opposite sides & can compliment each other nicely.

Brooks side is lined with Papa as a hole runner (expect Brooks to go to the line with short pass at line to Papa), mixed with Naden outside of Papa who has some pace and is looking primed with Laurie out the back.

We know AD will run also, just hope Laurie hovers on his inside hip. AD is right handed and when he takes the line on often has the arm free looking inside whilst drawing the inside defender. Then because of his running strength it will allow the outside backrower & centre to benefit if aggressive on the line runs which we saw his options in trial.

I’m nervous but excited to see both have the ability to play attacking footy, they will make mistakes but if they are allowed to play have no doubts they will put on a show.
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Great summary. Remember that try v Brisbane last year when Laurie broke through via an offload from Douehi, inside ball at that. Definitely plenty to get excited about & hopefully we see more of it this year. I’m hoping the additions of Api, Klem, Ice & Bateman will mean our best performances are much improved & our worst are much closer to our best!
 
balmain boy said:
It will be interesting to see who plays fullback in Cup, and whether Bula plays in flegg or cup to start the season. And at fullback or on the wing.
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I don’t get having a mentor to learn off on a football field. Not at this level. The best way to get experience is to just play. You some hard heads around you but having guys in front of you to mentor you while you play KOE to me seems idiotic. Mmmm.
 
balmain boy said:
Definitely worth a crack at him

He can't feel great knowing that he's now their 4th choice playmaker. Not a great show of confidence either that warriors had him and still felt obliged to go for both Metcalf and Martin after getting Johnson.
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Pretty sure Metcalf was signed first, really early in the season. Volkman was signed mid season and with an immediate transfer.
 
balmain boy said:
Definitely worth a crack at him

He can't feel great knowing that he's now their 4th choice playmaker. Not a great show of confidence either that warriors had him and still felt obliged to go for both Metcalf and Martin after getting Johnson.
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Metcalf will probably be a fullback and Johnson is past it
 
TurnStyle said:
What do you base that on?

I don't remember seeing him actually under the high ball...
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Dont worry to much TS,Sheens said that Laurie and Staines have given him a headache to sort out before Rnd 1...He is coach and I would leave it to his years of expert knowledge of rugby league and recruiting brilliantly since coming back to the NRL after a 10 year layoff,no doubt he will have Laurie on the wing and Stains at lock...Sheenius at its best...
Im being sarcastic mate,,,Sheens does have a headache to see who he puts the 1 jumper on..dont forget it was a trial.Laurie is talented and so is Stains...a coaches choice,he sees them everyday...
 
ovoevo said:
There's an old saying in Boxing which is pertinent: "They never come back".
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Yea but that is boxing. Violent sport and you get smashed to a pulp, you don't come back as easily.
League is a little similar, players who suffer ACL's don't come back as fast. Yet comebacks do happen, Kieran Foran an example.
 
crazycat said:
Yea but that is boxing. Violent sport and you get smashed to a pulp, you don't come back as easily.
League is a little similar, players who suffer ACL's don't come back as fast. Yet comebacks do happen, Kieran Foran an example.
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I'm talking more about players who leave a club - either for a rival, or another code - and return seasons later. I really am struggling to think of many who came back better (unless they were very, very young when they left). And I can think of even less who returned from Union anywhere close to the same level. Professional sport is so tough these days. You have to be all-in all the time to reach the very top and stay there. Going to union where you have to learn new skills and unlearn old ones - it just messes with the mind and the body. IMO, RTS was on the downslope when he left league. He picked up a lot of injuries which required many surgeries. Ask any surgeon who is being honest - human beings just aren't as good at fixing joints as mother nature is at creating them. Every surgery robs a player of some percentage of his physical capabilities. If you are lucky and you're in the hands of a competent surgeon (there are plenty of hacks out there) - maybe you only lose 2-5% of the joint's former flexibility, integrity etc. If you aint - like Sammy Burgess, you end up with an infection which eats away at a third of the tissue before it's picked up and .... sayonara career. RTS was a physical freak. At his peak he was playing right on the edge of his physical capabilities. Then came the injuries and you began to see him transitioning into less of a fast-twitch, athletic freak of a player and more of a cerebral one. It's not that he couldn't perform amazing feats. He just couldn't do it as often as before. I wouldn't spend big on the guy. It would be too risky.
 
Bob said:
I’ve been told Benji is running the show like a head coach already.

Sheens is only there to take the focus off him and not have to do the media / defend himself if it starts going pear shaped and act like a mentor.

Sheens is pretty much doing his head of football job + media.
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You could be right.

Just have to keep an eye out on Tuesdays when the teams are announced to see if there are any howlers which should confirm who is actually the real Head Coach.
 
Tim Sheens said:
In general play, sure, but Laurie let's the ball hit the turf way too often.

Whilst I didn't see that part of the match, reading about it in the live thread was very disappointing. It's okay to drop the occasional one, but not to watch them bounce and Daine has poor form in this important area of fullback play.
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You know "Laurie is probably not the Tigers' long term answer at fullback" and "Charlie Staines isn't a fullback's arsehole" can both be true, right?
 
Mighty_Tiger said:
Both when on their game are direct runners as well, they do straighten into the line and it will create issues if our forwards dominate. They play opposite sides & can compliment each other nicely.

Brooks side is lined with Papa as a hole runner (expect Brooks to go to the line with short pass at line to Papa), mixed with Naden outside of Papa who has some pace and is looking primed with Laurie out the back.

We know AD will run also, just hope Laurie hovers on his inside hip. AD is right handed and when he takes the line on often has the arm free looking inside whilst drawing the inside defender. Then because of his running strength it will allow the outside backrower & centre to benefit if aggressive on the line runs which we saw his options in trial.

I’m nervous but excited to see both have the ability to play attacking footy, they will make mistakes but if they are allowed to play have no doubts they will put on a show.
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Brooks needs to dig into the defensive line and not slide across it. he makes plays so far from the defenders at times it becomes very very easy to defend.
 
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