Appointment of Scott Fulton to Wests Tigers

Why Wests Tigers’ appointment of Scott Fulton could force Tim Sheens out early
There is growing talk that Tim Sheens might not even last this season at Wests Tigers if the forced partnership with Scott Fulton doesn’t work out, writes Paul
We needed some fresh blood , we bought in Sheens , Benji , Robbie , Heighno , all ex tigers , Sheens sacked Mag , then put Brett in a really shitty spot last season and killed our whole year off , Sheens then has Started this season where we left off , very poor , yes one win last week but he will need to keep them winning or I think he will be gone by season end , Benji and Dave Furner will be ok and Scott chasing the talent we need may be the difference , let’s see what he brings to the table with him , we just signed 2 players and both are lower grade at best , Scott was not part of that so let’s see how he goes
 
Sheens didn’t sack Maguire, the board did. Come to think of it, is Hagipantelis still referring to Sheens as “the great man”?
Why is Buzz always defending Hagipantelis, Pascoe and the rest of the board?
Could it be one of them is leaking to Buzz and Sheens cut them out of the info flow?
I could be making a few assumptions here but it’s not looking like our admin is cohesive?
You know what, we should sack Brooks and fix it all.
 
Why Wests Tigers’ appointment of Scott Fulton could force Tim Sheens out early
There is growing talk that Tim Sheens might not even last this season at Wests Tigers if the forced partnership with Scott Fulton doesn’t work out, writes Paul

More drivel from the Crawler, I suspect haha.
Wouldn't surprise me if they're besties by now

Weird Hadley was involved if that's correct.
Other then being mates with Hag don't see
how and in what capcity he helped our case

Scott Fulton will start work at Wests Tigers in the coming days knowing the biggest mountain ahead of him is winning the trust of Tim Sheens and Benji Marshall.
But Fulton isn’t the only person who should be feeling nervous given there is also a genuine belief among some that the arrival of the former Manly head of recruitment could spark a fast tracking of the Tigers’ coaching succession plan.
The original idea was for Sheens to stay on as head coach at the troubled club until the end of 2024 after which Marshall would be handed the reins.
But there is talk among some sources with knowledge of the situation that Sheens now might not even last this season if the forced partnership with Fulton doesn’t work out.
It’s no secret Sheens was filthy that he and Marshall were frozen out of the discussions prior to Fulton’s appointment.
And what would make it even more difficult for Sheens to digest is the revelation now that 2GB’s Ray Hadley also played a pivotal role to get the Fulton to the club.
Tim Sheens and Benji Marshall’s Tigers succession plan could be forced to start ahead of schedule. Picture: David Swift

Tim Sheens and Benji Marshall’s Tigers succession plan could be forced to start ahead of schedule. Picture: David Swift
It just seems outrageous to most that while the coach was kept in the dark, the club chose to include a prominent member of the media in the so-called top secret discussions.
It’s no secret Hadley has a longstanding friendship with the Fulton family with Scott’s late father Bob and Hadley best mates, while Hadley is also tight with Tigers chairman Lee Hagipantelis.
But while Hagipantelis has since come out publicly and defended the decision not to consult either Sheens or Marshall, the fact is it is unheard of at any football club not to include a head coach in these type of discussions.
Can you imagine Craig Bellamy or Wayne Bennett, Ivan Cleary or Trent Robinson, or any head coach for that matter, being excluded in a similar situation?
Sheens also has every right to be unhappy that his trusted ally Warren McDonnell is the one who has been shafted, or at least shuffled sideways to take on a junior pathways role.
Let’s not forget it was Sheens who wanted McDonnell back at the club in the first place.
And given Sheens’ experience as the NRL’s second longest-serving coach with 677 games in the bank, it is the ultimate show of disrespect no matter how Hagipantelis wants to spin it.
Sheens has already come out and said publicly that he has no intention of quitting.
And last round’s shock win over reigning premiers Penrith has definitely put everyone at the club in a far better frame of mind heading into Sunday’s Magic Round showdown against St George Illawarra.
2GB’s Ray Hadley played a pivotal role in delivering Fulton to the Tigers. Picture: Jonathan Ng.

2GB’s Ray Hadley played a pivotal role in delivering Fulton to the Tigers. Picture: Jonathan Ng.
Regardless of what happens this weekend in Brisbane, the bigger picture is what happens next week when Fulton comes together with Sheens and Marshall to start mapping out the Tigers’ future.
There has already been speculation in recent months that Sheens and Marshall don’t always see eye-to-eye on all football matters.
But what can’t be disputed is that Marshall also has the greatest respect for Sheens, and he would not jeopardise that relationship to fast track his way into the head coaching position.
However, the key will be to see if Sheens can form a working relationship with Fulton.
Make no mistake, either Sheens will have to swallow his pride and just get on with business, or it could end up evolving into an untenable position for one of them.
And if that was to happen you would have to think it would be Fulton who stays the distance given his appointment came directly through the chairman and the board.
 
More drivel from the Crawler, I suspect haha.
Wouldn't surprise me if they're besties by now

Weird Hadley was involved if that's correct.
Other then being mates with Hag don't see
how and in what capcity he helped our case

Scott Fulton will start work at Wests Tigers in the coming days knowing the biggest mountain ahead of him is winning the trust of Tim Sheens and Benji Marshall.
But Fulton isn’t the only person who should be feeling nervous given there is also a genuine belief among some that the arrival of the former Manly head of recruitment could spark a fast tracking of the Tigers’ coaching succession plan.
The original idea was for Sheens to stay on as head coach at the troubled club until the end of 2024 after which Marshall would be handed the reins.
But there is talk among some sources with knowledge of the situation that Sheens now might not even last this season if the forced partnership with Fulton doesn’t work out.
It’s no secret Sheens was filthy that he and Marshall were frozen out of the discussions prior to Fulton’s appointment.
And what would make it even more difficult for Sheens to digest is the revelation now that 2GB’s Ray Hadley also played a pivotal role to get the Fulton to the club.
Tim Sheens and Benji Marshall’s Tigers succession plan could be forced to start ahead of schedule. Picture: David Swift

Tim Sheens and Benji Marshall’s Tigers succession plan could be forced to start ahead of schedule. Picture: David Swift
It just seems outrageous to most that while the coach was kept in the dark, the club chose to include a prominent member of the media in the so-called top secret discussions.
It’s no secret Hadley has a longstanding friendship with the Fulton family with Scott’s late father Bob and Hadley best mates, while Hadley is also tight with Tigers chairman Lee Hagipantelis.
But while Hagipantelis has since come out publicly and defended the decision not to consult either Sheens or Marshall, the fact is it is unheard of at any football club not to include a head coach in these type of discussions.
Can you imagine Craig Bellamy or Wayne Bennett, Ivan Cleary or Trent Robinson, or any head coach for that matter, being excluded in a similar situation?
Sheens also has every right to be unhappy that his trusted ally Warren McDonnell is the one who has been shafted, or at least shuffled sideways to take on a junior pathways role.
Let’s not forget it was Sheens who wanted McDonnell back at the club in the first place.
And given Sheens’ experience as the NRL’s second longest-serving coach with 677 games in the bank, it is the ultimate show of disrespect no matter how Hagipantelis wants to spin it.
Sheens has already come out and said publicly that he has no intention of quitting.
And last round’s shock win over reigning premiers Penrith has definitely put everyone at the club in a far better frame of mind heading into Sunday’s Magic Round showdown against St George Illawarra.
2GB’s Ray Hadley played a pivotal role in delivering Fulton to the Tigers. Picture: Jonathan Ng.

2GB’s Ray Hadley played a pivotal role in delivering Fulton to the Tigers. Picture: Jonathan Ng.
Regardless of what happens this weekend in Brisbane, the bigger picture is what happens next week when Fulton comes together with Sheens and Marshall to start mapping out the Tigers’ future.
There has already been speculation in recent months that Sheens and Marshall don’t always see eye-to-eye on all football matters.
But what can’t be disputed is that Marshall also has the greatest respect for Sheens, and he would not jeopardise that relationship to fast track his way into the head coaching position.
However, the key will be to see if Sheens can form a working relationship with Fulton.
Make no mistake, either Sheens will have to swallow his pride and just get on with business, or it could end up evolving into an untenable position for one of them.
And if that was to happen you would have to think it would be Fulton who stays the distance given his appointment came directly through the chairman and the board.

More scuttlebutt.
 
More drivel from the Crawler, I suspect haha.
Wouldn't surprise me if they're besties by now

Weird Hadley was involved if that's correct.
Other then being mates with Hag don't see
how and in what capcity he helped our case

Scott Fulton will start work at Wests Tigers in the coming days knowing the biggest mountain ahead of him is winning the trust of Tim Sheens and Benji Marshall.
But Fulton isn’t the only person who should be feeling nervous given there is also a genuine belief among some that the arrival of the former Manly head of recruitment could spark a fast tracking of the Tigers’ coaching succession plan.
The original idea was for Sheens to stay on as head coach at the troubled club until the end of 2024 after which Marshall would be handed the reins.
But there is talk among some sources with knowledge of the situation that Sheens now might not even last this season if the forced partnership with Fulton doesn’t work out.
It’s no secret Sheens was filthy that he and Marshall were frozen out of the discussions prior to Fulton’s appointment.
And what would make it even more difficult for Sheens to digest is the revelation now that 2GB’s Ray Hadley also played a pivotal role to get the Fulton to the club.
Tim Sheens and Benji Marshall’s Tigers succession plan could be forced to start ahead of schedule. Picture: David Swift

Tim Sheens and Benji Marshall’s Tigers succession plan could be forced to start ahead of schedule. Picture: David Swift
It just seems outrageous to most that while the coach was kept in the dark, the club chose to include a prominent member of the media in the so-called top secret discussions.
It’s no secret Hadley has a longstanding friendship with the Fulton family with Scott’s late father Bob and Hadley best mates, while Hadley is also tight with Tigers chairman Lee Hagipantelis.
But while Hagipantelis has since come out publicly and defended the decision not to consult either Sheens or Marshall, the fact is it is unheard of at any football club not to include a head coach in these type of discussions.
Can you imagine Craig Bellamy or Wayne Bennett, Ivan Cleary or Trent Robinson, or any head coach for that matter, being excluded in a similar situation?
Sheens also has every right to be unhappy that his trusted ally Warren McDonnell is the one who has been shafted, or at least shuffled sideways to take on a junior pathways role.
Let’s not forget it was Sheens who wanted McDonnell back at the club in the first place.
And given Sheens’ experience as the NRL’s second longest-serving coach with 677 games in the bank, it is the ultimate show of disrespect no matter how Hagipantelis wants to spin it.
Sheens has already come out and said publicly that he has no intention of quitting.
And last round’s shock win over reigning premiers Penrith has definitely put everyone at the club in a far better frame of mind heading into Sunday’s Magic Round showdown against St George Illawarra.
2GB’s Ray Hadley played a pivotal role in delivering Fulton to the Tigers. Picture: Jonathan Ng.

2GB’s Ray Hadley played a pivotal role in delivering Fulton to the Tigers. Picture: Jonathan Ng.
Regardless of what happens this weekend in Brisbane, the bigger picture is what happens next week when Fulton comes together with Sheens and Marshall to start mapping out the Tigers’ future.
There has already been speculation in recent months that Sheens and Marshall don’t always see eye-to-eye on all football matters.
But what can’t be disputed is that Marshall also has the greatest respect for Sheens, and he would not jeopardise that relationship to fast track his way into the head coaching position.
However, the key will be to see if Sheens can form a working relationship with Fulton.
Make no mistake, either Sheens will have to swallow his pride and just get on with business, or it could end up evolving into an untenable position for one of them.
And if that was to happen you would have to think it would be Fulton who stays the distance given his appointment came directly through the chairman and the board.


Lol so it’s all Crawley opinion without even talking to Shenji. It’s classic BS from him. He vents often without any actual substance of truth. It’s his opinion piece / ask the editor column.

In saying that Lee and Pascoe never learn.

They keep giving the media tools fodder which empowers the media engine to spin crap like this.
 
Hadley addressed this on his show. He said that Lee did contact him as basically a character reference as he's a close friend of the Fulton family.
How I see it.

Board acting as the internal recruiter head hunting talent.

Fulton employed by manly didn't want manly knowing his applying for jobs with competitors until his secured a job.

Board didn't want to upset staff if it didn't eventuate

Board got their man then informed staff.

Hadley was a hr referal
 
Once again the club does a great thing but still manages to go about it the wrong way

If the club had managed to get Fulton signed up then approached sheens and benji before it got to the media and got them on board then a media release from the tigers to inform us fans in a professional manner then there is no problem and we congratulate the club on getting a fantastic head of reqruitmemt to the club

But of course the information leaks out and loose lips lee opens his mouth and ses a bunch of stupid stuff

I’m just hoping sheens and benji get on board with it all becuase that will be a great outcome for us
 
We need a youngster who has experience, now if we were going to give Moses $1.4 million, I can’t see why we would not offer Dodd from at st Helen’s $1,000,000 over 5 years , he really looks the goods , so get in early benji and get it done
Thanks god you're not in charge of our cap. A million bucks for a youngster with a handful of games, and none in the NRL? No-ones paying him close that amount!!
 
Once again the club does a great thing but still manages to go about it the wrong way

Did they ? I mean they made a decision and executed it without any noise until after the deal was done. The alternative was leaking it.

I think it's probably poor form not to notify Sheens but that is between those guys and that sort of stuff happens all the time in the corporate world.
 
Thanks god you're not in charge of our cap. A million bucks for a youngster with a handful of games, and none in the NRL? No-ones paying him close that amount!!

Maybe they will. He is a performing halfback. We desperately need one. He is no sure thing though.
 
Did they ? I mean they made a decision and executed it without any noise until after the deal was done. The alternative was leaking it.

I think it's probably poor form not to notify Sheens but that is between those guys and that sort of stuff happens all the time in the corporate world.
Hiring a head of football without informing/consulting your current coach and future coach is a pretty big stuff up
 
Appointment - seems ok
No leaks - good
Sheen's not consulted - weird but fine, and I'm no Sheen's fan so I will support this
Direct quotes from the chair justifying everything - poor

All in all, a pass mark pending how Scott performs. If we lose Sheens and fat macca over it, great, but can't see that happening this year. The coach should have pressure on him at 1 and 7 anyway, he is a Koala
 
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