Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[weststigers]

The team is better. We aren’t playing much better though.
Some changes in the coaching ranks might help.

The halves are 🚮

Furner has done a good job with our D.

You don’t feel we’re close if we can get some competent halves? Brooks has had multiple coaches…who would you suggest would get the best out of him? Do we really want a player that only 1 in 100 coaches can get him to perform?

I’m not having a go, but genuinely curious as I’m personally stumped on the Brooks conundrum and I think it’s better we move on and try someone new rather than persevere with him.

 

[weststigers]

Thats the issue, our halves are useless, no other team would swap their 7 for Brooks, and no other team would swap their 6 for Wakeham, we need at least 2 new halves at a minimum

You’re not wrong there mate

 

[WesternSuburbsBoy]

Thats the issue, our halves are useless, no other team would swap their 7 for Brooks, and no other team would swap their 6 for Wakeham, we need at least 2 new halves at a minimum

We are doing everything else right but once we get to the redzone we look lost & out of ideas. That's ultimately down to our halves.... fix that & we win more games then we lose.

 

[Tucker]

The halves are 🚮

Furner has done a good job with our D.

You don’t feel we’re close if we can get some competent halves? Brooks has had multiple coaches…who would you suggest would get the best out of him? Do we really want a player that only 1 in 100 coaches can get him to perform?

I’m not having a go, but genuinely curious as I’m personally stumped on the Brooks conundrum and I think it’s better we move on and try someone new rather than persevere with him.

I agree but we still fall out of games during important periods.
We can get downfield and Brooks’s general kicking is a factor in this however we can’t seal the deal.
I will say, our attack has regressed this year despite all the pre season bluster.

 

[Newtown]

Exactly.

Room for a top player.

 

[weststigers]

I agree but we still fall out of games during important periods.
We can get downfield and Brooks’s general kicking is a factor in this however we can’t seal the deal.
I will say, our attack has regressed this year despite all the pre season bluster.

Agree with that. Attack is hideous.

The lapses will happen, but they are compounded by the fact we can’t score.

12 points against us is like having 24 points put on another team. We only have 6-18 points in us per game right now, but other teams have 20-30 in them.

It’s a huge problem.

There were some moments on the weekend where we shifted wide and looked a bit more dangerous than previous weeks, but we couldn’t find the last pass to get in the clear.

Even though we are losing games, I’m actually a lot happier to watch the team play this year because they are having a dig. Last year was demoralising to watch.

 

[diedpretty]

have to laugh at some on here. They continually bang on about we should be like the ruthless clubs who move on under performers but when we move on an underperforming forward who is only playing 40 minutes a game and is way overpaid for that role its the worst move the club has made.

 

[Tigerstigerstigers]

have to laugh at some on here. They continually bang on about we should be like the ruthless clubs who move on under performers but when we move on an underperforming forward who is only playing 40 minutes a game and is way overpaid for that role its the worst move the club has made.

agree. kudos to the club for making a tough decision. Now for that halfback and centre !

 

[851]

Parra finally announce Moses re-signing until 2028

 

[Tucker]

have to laugh at some on here. They continually bang on about we should be like the ruthless clubs who move on under performers but when we move on an underperforming forward who is only playing 40 minutes a game and is way overpaid for that role its the worst move the club has made.

Who’s fault is it he is only playing 40?
Who signed him to that deal only 6 months ago?
How much are we losing on this deal?

 

[Red88_Tiger]

I’ve been to the journo rumour mill
The reason offa was moved on is because hunt can’t stand him. It’s the reason he was dropped from Queensland team aswell
I’m honestly positive I heard another voice tell me this 🤪🍻🍺

 

[Tiger_Fanatic3]

With Joe O moving on, would also expect WT to table a decent extension for Stefano soon, which may also have factored into funds allocation for the middle forwards. Stefano has a mutual option in 2025 so effectively can field offers from Nov 1 this year.

 

[Camel2281]

So we are clearing the decks but for who, we only resigned the bloke last year. Despite Fulton being here we still have the same muppets rubber stamping things in the front office. I have no faith we will replace him either directly like for like or even indirectedly like for a half or a centre.
We cleared the decks last year and bought in nobodies, we loaned out players and left ourselves short i have no faith.
If the club wanted rid of whats considered a bad deal moneywise why did they resign him and on so much, its just more poor management over and over again. I'd be delighted to be proven wrong but history tells me i wont be.

Devil's advocate for this deal, he was resigned prior to us getting in Klemmer and Bateman and on current form Joe has gone from leader of the pack to performing worse than Stefano, Twal and Pole whilst being paid alot more than them.

Not arguing with you with alot of what you have written, just hoping that Fulton's influence is a catalyst for improvement.

 

[Halbrowne61]

Devil's advocate for this deal, he was resigned prior to us getting in Klemmer and Bateman and on current form Joe has gone from leader of the pack to performing worse than Stefano, Twal and Pole whilst being paid alot more than them.

Not arguing with you with alot of what you have written, just hoping that Fulton's influence is a catalyst for improvement.

It’ll certainly be a catalyst for movement !

 

[Camel2281]

If we had decent coaches that would be possible as well.

Not with Brooks at 7

 

[Dennisspicer1]

Feel this all happened very quickly.

I agree freeing up his money is a good thing, but we need his experience and off field value at least for the rest of this year.

Just not a fan of mid-season releases with nothing in return.

We are getting something in return, it is extra money about $400.00 for the rest of this year, and a further $1.2 ml for 2024 & 2045.
Total saving $1.6 ml.

Going by figures I have seen on WTF.

 

[Dennisspicer1]

The only downside I see is it weakens the depth of our squad. We have really struggled with injuries over the last few years. We're only two injuries away from starting reserve graders. Joe O is a good guy to have if two of Stefano, Klemmer, Twal, and Pole were to go down. Now my memory isn't perfect but I feel like that exact situation happened last year and is how Austin Dias and Thomas Freebairn were getting a run.

You do realise reserve grade, Is reserve grade so they can play in the next grade up if they need a RESERVE.

AND ALSO TO GAIN THE EXPERIENCE IN THE HIGHER GRADE.
OR THATS WHAT BEING A RESERVE USED TO BE.

 

[Jolls]

I agree but we still fall out of games during important periods.
We can get downfield and Brooks’s general kicking is a factor in this however we can’t seal the deal.
I will say, our attack has regressed this year despite all the pre season bluster.

I agree that our attack has regressed but I think it has regressed for good reason. I have no doubt that Sheens and Co expected much much more from Brooks and AD than they were capable of delivering behind a much improved pack.

We tried to play an expansive game with a poor halves combination and a team with little game time together and we were punished for it. I think we can all agree that the attack was stripped right back to basics after the bye. The bye was probably a good circuit breaker to enable this to happen.

I'm not thrilled by the coaching so far; however, I do believe they now understand the problem and have stripped it right back to build from a solid foundation. We are playing a style that can be repeated consistently. Despite not scoring enough points, it is a step in the right direction.

We can continue to build combinations with the players we know will be the backbone of 2024 and start to put the polish on the basics that are now in place. It is not too far from where we are to be able to run X/Y and block plays at opposition weaknesses. It is the XY/Block combinations that we can work while still having average halves.

Throw more experience at Bula around the ruck, get ICE and Bateman running plays in and around Toa and Naden to punch the line or bring about second phase play and we can trouble most sides.

Find a competent half or 5/8 in the back half of the season as well and things will look much better.

I'm not happy with where we are, but I think the rose coloured glasses of our coaching staff have been shattered and they are now working with reality. I trust we will see a week by week improvement in our attack as we build from what is now a pretty solid, but not inspiring, base.

 

[Tiger Stripes]

Actually, his best footy was when he finally moved to prop late in the year. He played well all year, but was clearly a front row type middle being used as a 13, and that proved correct when he went even better once moved to the front row. He is fine at lock of you want a 3rd front rower.

Totally agree @ 113kg a slow lock. Better suited to front row.

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

Devil's advocate for this deal, he was resigned prior to us getting in Klemmer and Bateman and on current form Joe has gone from leader of the pack to performing worse than Stefano, Twal and Pole whilst being paid alot more than them.

Not arguing with you with alot of what you have written, just hoping that Fulton's influence is a catalyst for improvement.

Yeah fair call Joe O's form hasnt been up to standard and he had a low bar set last year, but still the deal they are trying to rescue was obviously another dud deal to begin with. Until we sort out our front office we will continue to be a joke, i like you hope Fulton can start to make some changes and better decisions with recruitment maybe this is one of those and history will be the judge of that.