Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[clokan]

Im 77 years old, dont think I can wait another 10 years for brooks to improve sufficiently to steer our team into a semi series,
Already waited 10.
I am an old Balmain Tiger boy. Only seen my team win in 1969 then as West Tigers in 2005.

AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE ANOTHER BEFORE MY TIME RUNS OUT.

BUT CANNOT FOR THE LIFE OF ME SEE THAT HAPPENING WITH LUKE BROOKS STILL IN THE TEAM.
LOOK AT LETS SAY THE COWBOYS HALF TOM DEARDON, HE SCORES TRIES, HE BREAKS THE LINE AND HE KICKS GOALS, AND HE BACKS UP.

OFFER HIM SOME DECENT $$$$$.

HE DOES MORE IN ONE GAME THAN LUKE DOES IN 10 GAMES.

I think we’d all like to see that, not saying Brooks will lead us to a GF, but given the current options keeping him and going hard for a true half would, in my opinion, be our best bet. Our club hasn’t been able to attract 1 decent half let alone two. Sign him on a two year deal and if we find someone better early, play Brooks off the bench or reserves, god know we have plenty of cap space to carry him for a year. What happens if we let Brooks go and we can’t sign anyone else?

A bird in the hand is better than two in the bush.

 

[TheGreenWookie]

Im a fan of bates remaining at 13 whilst captain. Just drop the emphasis on ball playing responsibility and let him run and offload/quick play ball. He leads by example in middle defence, also allows him to be close to the ref for appeals. Basically like Paul Gallen. Shame our halves situation can't support this.

Sheens mentioned in the presser "experiment for next year" after we are mathematically out of the 8. We should be turning this on now. 2 weeks to somehow magically make something happen.

Our forward pack still needs work. We a destroyer, a bit hitter. JWH, Lodge, NAS, Kafusi type for 15 min stints. Surely there is a beefhead in the UK of the likes

 

[TV Ted Ellery]

Blore is worth keeping. He would be on a modest contract and he has plenty of upside. Last night showed what he's capable of.

 

[You Know Who]

Give yourself an uppercut you imbecile.
No other team in the NRL would even think twice at paying 700k per season for an average toiler such as Bateman.
He contributes nothing to our attack and his tackles would not knock the top off a custard tart.

Lol what a clown you are. This is how you let everyone know you don’t watch games without telling everyone you don’t watch games. What absolute tool you are.

If he was as overrated as you think, then you wouldn’t have had to make outright lies about him. Not to mention the stats and eye test completely expose your dumbarse argument.

But that’s okay. Keep holding the water for nuffies like Brooks and Seyfarth while the rest of us laugh at your stupidity and watch the real players like Bateman play with a bit of pride and effort.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

If he was offered to every other NRL club at 700k per season they would laugh in our face.
Both Blore and Seyfarth won’t have a problem being snapped up by other NRL clubs for their 200k -250k value.

I have no idea at the point you’re trying to make.
Would you prefer a team full of 200k reggies or an actual NRL team?

You’re comparing apples with oranges. An 80min NRL quality player to a 40min fringe or an injury prone player that has had 2 ok games at NRL level.

Bateman is a NRL starter and wouldn’t have an issue finding another NRL club if shopped around heck Parra paid 600k for Joffa within a week of being shopped. The Raiders paid a fortune for him before he left & that was before the cap increase happened. $700k isn’t ridiculous spend in today’s cap it’s the new $500k these days & someone would pay it easily for him. That’s how the economy works.

Blore has apparently been shopped around for weeks, hasn’t been snapped up yet despite us having him on contract next season (normally means we tip in). Seyfarth is off contract still for next season.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

Blore is worth keeping. He would be on a modest contract and he has plenty of upside. Last night showed what he's capable of.

We have him contracted for next season as it is and on a low contract.

 

[earl]

Again we are focusing on mediocre inconsistency type players which isn’t good enough if we want to play finals year in year out.

I just want to win as well. My opinion though is that you can't have a team full of stars. Look at Melbourne. They don't have a team of stars but they have a spine of Grant, Munster, Hughes and Papenhuyzen.

I agree we need class players but I honestly think if we could just add for instance Munster or Moses to our team we'd be so much better.

 

[earl]

I agree with most of what you say MT, but we have a massive issue in our back row.
I don’t need to look at stats to know we have made the least amount of line breaks out of any NRL team in the back row, add to that we have yet to find a 13 that does anything to assist our halves with some simple ball playing.
Papali’i has been slowly building and was by far our best player last night. I agree Blore hasn’t done much until last night, but he’s a big body with decent speed and toughness, he’s still very young for an NRL forward and surely he has much more upside than an ageing slowing Bateman.
You keep saying Seyfarth is not up to it and I agree I don’t think he’s done enough to be a starting player, but he comes off the bench makes plenty of tackles and very rarely misses one. Tell me what Bateman does any better than him ? Not forgetting you cannot have any NRL side such as Wests Tigers with no local juniors that bring a bit of heart & soul into the team, Seyfarth is one of the only few local juniors in our current top 17 and would be on a minimum wage which allows us to potentially spend more to try and sign players in the positions we desperately need.
Bateman on 700k offers nothing other than a bit of fire when the opposition rubs him the wrong way. I’d much prefer he runs the ball and tackle with a bit of purpose other than running like he’s wearing gum boots and make 40 arm grabbing tackles which are often 3rd man in. He’s also good for a dumb turn over when we are in good field position every week.

I agree with all your points except Bateman. He was poor last night but every other game he has offered us something.

 

[earl]

You would hope even Sheens is not dumb enough to sign him although he has proven many times in the past if something appeals to him he will chase it and persevere with it no matter how often and badly it fails.

Schuster on anything other than a modest contract is potentially a disaster.

 

[hammertime]

All these people saying "Hunt won't come to the Tigers", how do we know if we don't try? Gotta have a go and he is the best halfback who might be available. The worst thing that can happen is he says no.

Personally I would have been going hard after Averillo as he is one of the best outside backs available for next year, and can cover fullback and halves in a pinch.

I agree. Hunt left Qld for good money before for a team with issues. Despite our position on the table, I think we've got a lot more going for us than the saints.

It will be his last contract. He'll be after the $$$

Him and Brooks in the halves next year (brooks playing 6), with AD coming back as 14 will be golden.

The value in hunt also lies in that he's a quality 9 as well. If there is an injury to Api, it gives us options.

Make it happen mgmt!

 

[rusted-on]

Schuster on anything other than a modest contract is potentially a disaster.

I would rather not have him at all. His attitude is not one we would want rubbing off on the young guys coming through, and I don't trust the strength of our culture (yet) to negate his influence and keep him on track at the very least.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

I agree. Hunt left Qld for good money before for a team with issues. Despite our position on the table, I think we've got a lot more going for us than the saints.

It will be his last contract. He'll be after the $$$

Him and Brooks in the halves next year (brooks playing 6), with AD coming back as 14 will be golden.

It’s strange you read that comment on Hunt re wants to go to a contender but then he gets linked to the Bulldogs & Titans - Bulldogs won’t be contenders next season & maybe Titans could be if they can stabilize their combinations but they need more than Hunt to have a good crack.

 

[earl]

I would rather not have him at all. His attitude is not one we would want rubbing off on the young guys coming through, and I don't trust the strength of our culture (yet) to negate his influence and keep him on track at the very least.

Personally I don't think it is worth the risk at all.

 

[ElleryHanley]

Ben Hunt is 1000000% NOT coming to us.

He wants out because he wants to try and win a comp before retiring. He is 33. He is not demanding a release so he can move from the second bottom team to the bottom one. People saying "go get him!" are delusional.

 

[ElleryHanley]

It’s strange you read that comment on Hunt re wants to go to a contender but then he gets linked to the Bulldogs & Titans - Bulldogs won’t be contenders next season & maybe Titans could be if they can stabilize their combinations but they need more than Hunt to have a good crack.

If you added Hunt to that Titans team they would actually be a contender IMO.

They are top 2 in the NRL in most stats first 60 mins of games...then they collapse.

He would solve a lot of those issues.

 

[batboy]

If you added Hunt to that Titans team they would actually be a contender IMO.

They are top 2 in the NRL in most stats first 60 mins of games...then they collapse.

He would solve a lot of those issues.

Hence his urgency to get up there…
He’s not doing anything at the Dragons this year, sees himself half a chance to do
Something at the titans

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

If you added Hunt to that Titans team they would actually be a contender IMO.

They are top 2 in the NRL in most stats first 60 mins of games...then they collapse.

He would solve a lot of those issues.

Agree. They are missing a backrow punch but forgot that Fermor is out injured. When he comes back & give the kids another year of NRL they do look good.

 

[Vicious]

I have no idea at the point you’re trying to make.
Would you prefer a team full of 200k reggies or an actual NRL team?

You’re comparing apples with oranges. An 80min NRL quality player to a 40min fringe or an injury prone player that has had 2 ok games at NRL level.

Bateman is a NRL starter and wouldn’t have an issue finding another NRL club if shopped around heck Parra paid 600k for Joffa within a week of being shopped. The Raiders paid a fortune for him before he left & that was before the cap increase happened. $700k isn’t ridiculous spend in today’s cap it’s the new $500k these days & someone would pay it easily for him. That’s how the economy works.

Blore has apparently been shopped around for weeks, hasn’t been snapped up yet despite us having him on contract next season (normally means we tip in). Seyfarth is off contract still for next season.

My point is no supporter is happy with our results or where we are sitting on the ladder.
Every supporter knows we need some star quality players that can help us climb the ladder and become a competitive team.
Every supporter would realise to even be a remote chance of signing star quality players, we have to offer and pay a lot more than most other NRL teams.
To have the ability to do this we cannot over pay toilers who are not capable of doing anything special to help us win games.

 

[boonboon]

We need halves- rest of the squad is fine imo.

 

[851]

We need halves- rest of the squad is fine imo.

2 starting halves and we are instantly a top 8 team