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The Wests Tigers are set to fast-track Benji Marshall’s ascension to the head coaching role in time for the start of the 2024 pre-season.
While Tim Sheens will remain the head coach in name, the club has mapped out a plan for Marshall to assume his responsibilities when the team returns for pre-season training in November.



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The club had originally planned to give Marshall a two-year apprenticeship under the guidance of Sheens. However, Tigers powerbrokers believe they need to fast-track the handover after just nine months.
Saturday night’s 74-0 shellacking at the hands of the North Queensland Cowboys has once again placed a question mark over the club’s decision to invest so heavily in the Sheens-Marshall combination.

The Tigers have given no thought to parting ways with Sheens, but believe Marshall is ready to step up and take control of the team.
Sources with knowledge of the situation talking under the condition of anonymity confirmed Marshall has a far greater say in the running of the team than he did at the start of the year, but Sheens is still the senior figure who has the final say. Sheens is still in charge of team selection.
Wests Tigers’ coach-in-waiting Benji Marshall.

Wests Tigers’ coach-in-waiting Benji Marshall.CREDIT:GETTY IMAGES
Those roles are set to change over the off-season, with Marshall to become the loudest voice in the room and Sheens to take a step back to oversee the development of the man who led the club to its only premiership back in 2005.
The Tigers still want Sheens to shield his protege from the bullets over the next year, which is why the veteran coach is expected to keep his tag as head coach and front the cameras.

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Marshall has impressed the players with his demeanour and tactical nous since joining the coaching staff, with many inside the organisation of the opinion he’s ready to assume the head coaching duties.
The criticism from within the playing group under the Michael Maguire regime reflected a belief the coach lacked the communication skills for them to flourish on game day.
Benji Marshall and Tim Sheens.

Benji Marshall and Tim Sheens.CREDIT:NRL PHOTOS
There is a feeling within the club that players are receiving mixed messages as a result of having two senior coaching figures. Some officials believe that having a singular figurehead on the coaching staff will help solve that problem.
In an interview with this masthead before the season, Sheens had foreseen a potential shift in the club’s plan given what he’d seen from Marshall over the pre-season.

“He’ll kill it,” Sheens told this masthead back in January. “He’ll make it, easy. There’s just no doubt. “In two years’ time he’ll be ready to go easy. In fact, I reckon in 12 months’ time I’ll have to watch my back.”
“I’m an interim coach, basically. And I’m happy about that. I have my say still. I’ve still got the big stick, but at the end of the day if they [Marshall and fellow assistant Robbie Farah] want to run with something and I’m happy with it, I let them run with it because that’s teaching them what they need to do.”
Back together: Benji Marshall and Tim Sheens at Tigers training in 2012.

Back together: Benji Marshall and Tim Sheens at Tigers training in 2012.CREDIT:NRL IMAGERY
Tigers officials would not comment when contacted by this masthead on Sunday.
Some Tigers fans would prefer the bullets being aimed at Sheens to be directed towards management and directors, who decided an untested rookie coach in partnership with an ageing veteran mentor was the blueprint out of the club’s predicament.

While the loss to the Cowboys, the third biggest in NRL history, saw the club sink to a new low, the Tigers are clinging to the areas of improvement.
Coming into the game against the Cowboys, the Tigers had conceded just 22.9 points per game and had only once leaked more than 28 points in a match.
Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe and chairman Lee Hagipantelis look on during the 74-0 flogging in North Queensland.

Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe and chairman Lee Hagipantelis look on during the 74-0 flogging in North Queensland.CREDIT:GETTY
That’s a notable improvement on the 28.3 points per game they conceded under Michael Maguire and Brett Kimmorley last year. Yet they remain at the bottom of the ladder.
The fact the Tigers have lost five games this year by a converted try or less may provide some cause for comfort to those within the building.

The development of some of the game’s best young talent, including Jahream Bula and Fonua Pole, also provides light at the end of the tunnel, yet there remains a passionate fan base fed up with incompetence and ineptitude from a team that will this season miss the finals for a 12th consecutive year.
With Luke Brooks on his way out, Marshall’s first task is to find a replacement. The club is holding out hope of signing Manly teenage sensation Latu Fainu to wear Marshall’s famous No.6 jersey.
The club has also expressed interest in the likes of Brayden Trindall and Jack Cogger to play halfback. That job is now for new recruitment boss Scott Fulton to try and sort out.
Regardless of job titles and positions, it is Marshall’s voice which will soon matter most.

Thanks champion @gregjm87 - much appreciated.
 
Great read about Benji taking charge in 24.
Recruitment is obviously the main factor moving forward, but still think the assistant coaches are going to be super important to Benji’s success as head coach. Assuming Furner and Farah stay on, the fourth assistant needs to bring a lot. Maybe another older, steady head with past head coach experience and good track record of training structures. The KOE and JF coaches also key as they need to coach the same style and structures as first grade and help bring on the next generation.
 
Papers reporting he is free to talk to other clubs but the Dragons won't be paying any of his contract. We'd be looking at paying $800K for two years, as in $800K per year if you believe the Tele
Last year 360 had him at 650K a season and The tele had him on 700K a season.
Still on the high end for a centre that hasnt really kicked on but would take him on, has more ability than any of our current options.
 
My Biggest gripe is that we have all this money and we are not using it. FFS every team needs a 7 and we need to get one even if we pay massive money. Don't see the point in having money in bank and other teams beating us.. We need some good news and hope it a signing this week.
Slowly it's coming to light. Where is the money going? Great point hsvjones.
 
Recruitment is obviously the main factor moving forward, but still think the assistant coaches are going to be super important to Benji’s success as head coach. Assuming Furner and Farah stay on, the fourth assistant needs to bring a lot. Maybe another older, steady head with past head coach experience and good track record of training structures. The KOE and JF coaches also key as they need to coach the same style and structures as first grade and help bring on the next generation.
Exactly. Recruitment is Obviously the main factor. Who is in charge? Who pulls the strings?
 
Papers reporting he is free to talk to other clubs but the Dragons won't be paying any of his contract. We'd be looking at paying $800K for two years, as in $800K per year if you believe the Tele
Not worth anywhere near that. Just pair him with Shuster and finish the job off…..
 
i dont disagree with your assessments of what we need but who solves the problems (aside from Fainus taking 2 spots)? and how do we convince them to come here?
Re-signing Staines & Laurie covers FB, wing & 5/8.

Latu Fainu to cover 7/6

Sam Fainu to the bench- 2nd row

Zac Fulton- 13

Brad Parker/Mawene Hiroti/Adam Pompey/Bradman Best/ Paul Momorovski- #3/#4

Keio Weekes- Wing/Centre

Hymel Hunt/ Raymond Tuaimalo Vaega/Waqa Blake/ COREY ALLEN- Wing

Clune/Sezar/Cogger/Walker/Trindall/Taaffe/Schneider/Lam/Pearce....Mbye? (insert additional names here)- 7/6

Bayley Sironen/Corey Waddell/Bryce Cartwright- 2nd Row depth

Obviously some of these players are not exactly 'exciting', but the right combinations can give the squad the right mix.

There is money to spare, so no need to be super frugal. BUT- the club needs to learn from previous mistakes- don't overspend on talent. For example- I'd be happy for Mbye to be back, on $300k. But $800k would cause a riot.

If he IS available- the team is in position to throw good money at Sam Walker. If they can make him a marquee signing, fill the roster with solid players, with our forwards & the young players coming through...
 
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