Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Needaname]

That's the way it works, if they've identified talent correctly.

What Panthers did which WT always struggle in they identified and recruited the best forward pack in the comp.

Yes, WT have some good juniors coming through but do they have the forward back to support them at the moment ? Answer is no.

Get out of town, many people are ‘raving’ about our forward pack.

 

[Hbom]

Why? What does it achieve? Does it stop us with a plan B? No it doesn't. Both your justifications are spite. The $ offer would reflect his "underachievement".

All it does it reduce our bargaining position. Now we are desperate and will have to overpay.

All very emotional and not strategic. Not what a board should do.

Yes, I see your point. Multiple stokes in the fire can't hurt. I guess it works a bit differently if you are negotiating a $1M+ per season deal and have other cap decisions to make, deadline might be needed.

 

[tony soprano]

The timing around Fulton arriving and the deadline on Brooks, suggests to me that he may have had more to do with it than the board alone.. Fulton privy to who Manly were targeting with Schuster not working out at 5/8th and IMoses being Siebold and Lukes manager. Coincidence ??
Not one to defend the board of late -.they may have forced Brooks hand but they needed to know if he was interested in negotiating or wanted out. Signed sealed and delivered at Manly soon after.

Fulton expressly Said in the papers that its as clear as day Brooks needs a change.

 

[tony soprano]

I haven’t seen Fulton quoted anywhere, i actually thought he was a made up character in Gadgets mind.

Was an article a while ago.

 

[vlad]

Sharks sign Aust schoolboys half Riley Pollard for 4 years

Surely opens the door for Trindall to be allowed to leave .

 

[jirskyr]

I think there's a lot of pressure and expectation from fans about player signings. But I think our progress will depend more on the sort of system we want to play and finding players that can do that. You need a clear structure and just a really strong forward pack.

People knock Gould but it feels like he, or whoever was there at Penrith, created a system that continually produces players that can just be plugged in. Look at their success with back-up halfbacks recently. Even with no halves they do well. Turning nobodies in to half backs. That's a clear system that gives confidence.

Same goes for Arthur, few seem to rate him, but he built a team out of turmoil and now has rebuilt again after losing supposedly crucial forwards. Moses and gutho were also no world beaters when he got them, and they continue to get better.

Bellamy has done it many times as well.

Confidence in and understanding of what a coach expects is something we've never have. We fluked 2005 based on individual genius miraculously gelling. For those players, in that year, the freedom was beneficial. But it was never able to be replicated.

Our scattershot approach to recruitment doesn't really bode well for our current coaches having a clear idea of structure. It's seems any half from Pearce to Johnson to brooks will do, yet none of them seem sold on whatever vision we've offered.

So I don't really care if we don't get the fainu bros, I want to see us have an attacking structure and style of play that players can learn and thrive in. If we don't have that, it doesn't matter who we sign.

Agree about the idea of a system, but disagree about the systems we have now and have had in the past.

2005 was not a fluke, I hate when people say this. You cannot win the NRL competition on a fluke. 2005 was the result of a plan working out perfectly; it only seems like a fluke because it worked out earlier than perhaps we expected.

But there was nothing miraculous about the way things gelled, it was planned. Sheens knew he had quality juniors and he knew he had to support them with astute signings, particularly players on the comeback (cheaper to purchase) and some older mentors to guide them.

He knew Benji and Farah were potentially elite talent and immediately gave them a taste of FG in 2003. He made some astute junior signings at the same time via Laffranchi and Heighington, to support other quality juniors like Fulton and Gibbs coming through. He backed Hodgson, Richards and Prince to recapture the form they were capable of, and he picked up some reliable clubmen like Whatuira and Elford to bolster our capability across the park.

There's nothing flukey about that, and it makes perfect sense, for example, that you would try and sign a guy like Scott Prince to partner Benji, knowing Prince always had huge potential so long as the injuries could be managed.

The Tigers clearly improved from 13th 2003 to 9th 2004 to 4th 2005 in the regular season. They clearly developed as a side and may have even done better in 2004 had Benji and Farah not gotten long-term injured.

It also helped that Sheens predicted where the reffing style was headed in 2005 and both coached and recruited for a fast-flowing pro-attack style.

After that, Sheens proved he could get the team back to top-tier football by changing his strategy up a bit. Benji had that bad run of shoulder injuries from 2006 and Prince/Laffranchi were poached by Titans for 2007, and the reality is that Tigers had never had the depth or long-term financing to absorb massive hits to a plan like that. But Sheens got them back to the top and I don't think it's hyperbole to say the 2010-2011 teams were probably better overall than the 2005 side that won.

Since then, we don't stick to any plan. Coaches are given 2-3 years then hoiked. We moved away from junior development because we were unhappy with the boom/bust cycles of Tim Sheens, and we tried to polish our brand rather than rely on the gritty / partially risky / high-attack style of football that worked for us on and off. We hired coaches that promised to make us defensive powerhouses.

I personally believe that had Sheens stayed on after 2012, he could have taken that new crop of juniors via Brooks / Moses / Tedesco and developed a new top-flight team. He had the basics there, plus others like Koroibete, Woods, Simona, Lawrence. But I understand why, after 10 years, the management felt they wanted to move on from that boom-bust cycle.

Right now 2023 we are trying to go back to that Sheens-style plan of getting a young and competitive team that can challenge for the finals over several seasons. But part of the challenge is we are trying to do this from dead last and from a decade-long losing streak, rather than a baseline of teams that are already on the fringe of finals contention.

Fans and media are already calling for Sheens to be sacked or Benji to be brought forward, and now this big push to get Pascoe and Lee H pushed out. I'm not particularly for or against such arguments, but everyone does need to keep in mind the bigger picture that the Sheens/Marshall rebuild is less than 1 season old. It's not a terrible strategy, even if the results in 2023 are horrendous. It may be true that Sheens is no longer capable of developing a finals-bound side and it may turn out that Benji can't coach, but as a multi-year plan it's not horrendous.

But fundamentally fans have had enough of the failure and it seems nobody is really willing to give Sheens and Benji the 4-5 seasons that would legitimately be required to turn things around. Lee H calls for patience and people basically want to rip his hat off.

Even the recruitment 2022-2023 is not scattershot, as you described it. The identified weaknesses in the forwards and addressed them. The single recruitment drive of Api / IP / Klemmer / Bateman is, on paper, arguably one of the best in Tigers history. They have targeted a top-flight halfback despite the lack of pulling power of the club. But the backs are weak and the hyped-up juniors are just a few too many seasons away, rather than the perfect storm of 2004-2005.

I understand why people are so upset after the 74-0 result. It was one of the most embarrassing things I've seen. But I do also remember, for example, when we lost 56-6 and 66-12 in consecutive weeks 2001, in a season that included the infamous Hopoate finger plus McGuinness and Field getting done for coke. I remember 2004 mid-season when we got done 50-0 and 56-0 in consecutive weeks. We did rebound from those low points. It is quite reasonable that if you stick to the plan, you can achieve long-term results.

 

[Tiga]

Most fans have been stating our pack is good enough. I think our pack is close and can compete but there is something missing. We were rolled over by Cronulla.

I suppose the no 1 issue has to be our halves and hence the hail mary play for Fainu or Galvin (?) who is already part of the top 30 for next year. I think then we need another outside back or two but they need to be real good. Then we need an addition to the pack but I'm not sure if we need an edge forward or just a gun lock.

We have a bunch of middle forwards. Klemmer, Stef, Pole, Twal, Seyfarth, Blore and Asitasi.

Same old argument from me...put big $ into a proper halves pairing that have nouse, can read a game, work well together & can steer the team round the park.
The rest of the teamare good enough to do their job

 

[Tiga]

Agree about the idea of a system, but disagree about the systems we have now and have had in the past.

2005 was not a fluke, I hate when people say this. You cannot win the NRL competition on a fluke. 2005 was the result of a plan working out perfectly; it only seems like a fluke because it worked out earlier than perhaps we expected.

But there was nothing miraculous about the way things gelled, it was planned. Sheens knew he had quality juniors and he knew he had to support them with astute signings, particularly players on the comeback (cheaper to purchase) and some older mentors to guide them.

He knew Benji and Farah were potentially elite talent and immediately gave them a taste of FG in 2003. He made some astute junior signings at the same time via Laffranchi and Heighington, to support other quality juniors like Fulton and Gibbs coming through. He backed Hodgson, Richards and Prince to recapture the form they were capable of, and he picked up some reliable clubmen like Whatuira and Elford to bolster our capability across the park.

There's nothing flukey about that, and it makes perfect sense, for example, that you would try and sign a guy like Scott Prince to partner Benji, knowing Prince always had huge potential so long as the injuries could be managed.

The Tigers clearly improved from 13th 2003 to 9th 2004 to 4th 2005 in the regular season. They clearly developed as a side and may have even done better in 2004 had Benji and Farah not gotten long-term injured.

It also helped that Sheens predicted where the reffing style was headed in 2005 and both coached and recruited for a fast-flowing pro-attack style.

After that, Sheens proved he could get the team back to top-tier football by changing his strategy up a bit. Benji had that bad run of shoulder injuries from 2006 and Prince/Laffranchi were poached by Titans for 2007, and the reality is that Tigers had never had the depth or long-term financing to absorb massive hits to a plan like that. But Sheens got them back to the top and I don't think it's hyperbole to say the 2010-2011 teams were probably better overall than the 2005 side that won.

Since then, we don't stick to any plan. Coaches are given 2-3 years then hoiked. We moved away from junior development because we were unhappy with the boom/bust cycles of Tim Sheens, and we tried to polish our brand rather than rely on the gritty / partially risky / high-attack style of football that worked for us on and off.

I personally believe that had Sheens stayed on after 2012, he could have taken that new crop of juniors via Brooks / Moses / Tedesco and developed a new top-flight team. He had the basics there, plus others like Koroibete, Woods, Simona, Lawrence. But I understand why, after 10 years, the management felt they wanted to move on from that boom-bust cycle.

Right now 2023 we are trying to go back to that Sheens-style plan of getting a young and competitive team that can challenge for the finals over several seasons. But part of the challenge is we are trying to do this from dead last and from a decade-long losing streak, rather than a baseline of teams that are already on the fringe of finals contention.

Fans and media are already calling for Sheens to be sacked or Benji to be brought forward, and now this big push to get Pascoe and Lee H pushed out. I'm not particularly for or against such arguments, but everyone does need to keep in mind the bigger picture that the Sheens/Marshall rebuild is less than 1 season old. It's not a terrible strategy, even if the results in 2023 are horrendous. It may be true that Sheens is no longer capable of developing a finals-bound side and it may turn out that Benji can't coach, but as a multi-year plan it's not horrendous.

But fundamentally fans have had enough of the failure and it seems nobody is really willing to give Sheens and Benji the 4-5 seasons that would legitimately be required to turn things around. Lee H calls for patience and people basically want to rip his hat off.

Even the recruitment 2022-2023 is not scattershot, as you described it. The identified weaknesses in the forwards and addressed them. The single recruitment drive of Api / IP / Klemmer / Bateman is, on paper, arguably one of the best in Tigers history. They have targeted a top-flight halfback despite the lack of pulling power of the club. But the backs are weak and the hyped-up juniors are just a few too many seasons away, rather than the perfect storm of 2004-2005.

I understand why people are so upset after the 74-0 result. It was one of the most embarrassing things I've seen. But I do also remember, for example, when we lost 56-6 and 66-12 in consecutive weeks 2001, in a season that included the infamous Hopoate finger plus McGuinness and Field getting done for coke. I remember 2004 mid-season when we got done 50-0 and 56-0 in consecutive weeks. We did rebound from those low points. It is quite reasonable that if you stick to the plan, you can achieve long-term results.

Says something that for at least the last 10 years only belting after belting. Player roster changes, coach changes & nothing else changes.
The only change that hasn't happened is pascoe hagi and the board.
Let's try changing that coz everything has been tried & hasn't made a scrap of difference

 

[Tigers_Wests]

Sharks sign Aust schoolboys half Riley Pollard for 4 years

Surely opens the door for Trindall to be allowed to leave .

Already have Atkinson and Puru who are supposedly talented halves on contract too. You would think Trindall is a decent chance to be at another club next year.

 

[Nonotmeagain]

If I think about the Fainu brothers. One is a 18 yr old five eight and today we had 2 17 yr old five eights from our club named in the Australian schoolboys side so not sure we lose out much their and the other is a backrower the position we are most stocked in already. What we need is a halback now which neither is and a experience five eight to guide the young blokes through neither of which they are. Are we really missing that much if they don't sign

Not really the hype is all on expectation.

 

[balmain boy]

I think the opposite, Uncle Wayne has sold the family, that they can start a new life up in QLD and get away from the negatives of Sydney and start a fresh life…plus a fistful of cash

You do realise Manase is in jail for another few years right. The rest of the family are just going to uproot from everything and everyone they know and leave their son/brother behind? When family is the most important thing in their life..
And we can offer a lot more money and opportunity than they can. Their pack is stacked, the have 4 halves signed already.

 

[earl]

Same old argument from me...put big $ into a proper halves pairing that have nouse, can read a game, work well together & can steer the team round the park.
The rest of the teamare good enough to do their job

It's the biggest upgrade area and it has been for years. Moses would have solved the problem. We can't sign those players though. They have to pick some kid or player not currently recognized as high enough quality at their club like Hynes.

 

[balmain boy]

Already have Atkinson and Puru who are supposedly talented halves on contract too. You would think Trindall is a decent chance to be at another club next year.

It's so frustrating when so many other clubs have quality starting halves and also quality young halves coming through all the grades, and we have no one, at any of the top levels of the game. It's just abysmal planning

 

[The Chad]

Agree about the idea of a system, but disagree about the systems we have now and have had in the past.

2005 was not a fluke, I hate when people say this. You cannot win the NRL competition on a fluke. 2005 was the result of a plan working out perfectly; it only seems like a fluke because it worked out earlier than perhaps we expected.

But there was nothing miraculous about the way things gelled, it was planned. Sheens knew he had quality juniors and he knew he had to support them with astute signings, particularly players on the comeback (cheaper to purchase) and some older mentors to guide them.

He knew Benji and Farah were potentially elite talent and immediately gave them a taste of FG in 2003. He made some astute junior signings at the same time via Laffranchi and Heighington, to support other quality juniors like Fulton and Gibbs coming through. He backed Hodgson, Richards and Prince to recapture the form they were capable of, and he picked up some reliable clubmen like Whatuira and Elford to bolster our capability across the park.

There's nothing flukey about that, and it makes perfect sense, for example, that you would try and sign a guy like Scott Prince to partner Benji, knowing Prince always had huge potential so long as the injuries could be managed.

The Tigers clearly improved from 13th 2003 to 9th 2004 to 4th 2005 in the regular season. They clearly developed as a side and may have even done better in 2004 had Benji and Farah not gotten long-term injured.

It also helped that Sheens predicted where the reffing style was headed in 2005 and both coached and recruited for a fast-flowing pro-attack style.

After that, Sheens proved he could get the team back to top-tier football by changing his strategy up a bit. Benji had that bad run of shoulder injuries from 2006 and Prince/Laffranchi were poached by Titans for 2007, and the reality is that Tigers had never had the depth or long-term financing to absorb massive hits to a plan like that. But Sheens got them back to the top and I don't think it's hyperbole to say the 2010-2011 teams were probably better overall than the 2005 side that won.

Since then, we don't stick to any plan. Coaches are given 2-3 years then hoiked. We moved away from junior development because we were unhappy with the boom/bust cycles of Tim Sheens, and we tried to polish our brand rather than rely on the gritty / partially risky / high-attack style of football that worked for us on and off. We hired coaches that promised to make us defensive powerhouses.

I personally believe that had Sheens stayed on after 2012, he could have taken that new crop of juniors via Brooks / Moses / Tedesco and developed a new top-flight team. He had the basics there, plus others like Koroibete, Woods, Simona, Lawrence. But I understand why, after 10 years, the management felt they wanted to move on from that boom-bust cycle.

Right now 2023 we are trying to go back to that Sheens-style plan of getting a young and competitive team that can challenge for the finals over several seasons. But part of the challenge is we are trying to do this from dead last and from a decade-long losing streak, rather than a baseline of teams that are already on the fringe of finals contention.

Fans and media are already calling for Sheens to be sacked or Benji to be brought forward, and now this big push to get Pascoe and Lee H pushed out. I'm not particularly for or against such arguments, but everyone does need to keep in mind the bigger picture that the Sheens/Marshall rebuild is less than 1 season old. It's not a terrible strategy, even if the results in 2023 are horrendous. It may be true that Sheens is no longer capable of developing a finals-bound side and it may turn out that Benji can't coach, but as a multi-year plan it's not horrendous.

But fundamentally fans have had enough of the failure and it seems nobody is really willing to give Sheens and Benji the 4-5 seasons that would legitimately be required to turn things around. Lee H calls for patience and people basically want to rip his hat off.

Even the recruitment 2022-2023 is not scattershot, as you described it. The identified weaknesses in the forwards and addressed them. The single recruitment drive of Api / IP / Klemmer / Bateman is, on paper, arguably one of the best in Tigers history. They have targeted a top-flight halfback despite the lack of pulling power of the club. But the backs are weak and the hyped-up juniors are just a few too many seasons away, rather than the perfect storm of 2004-2005.

I understand why people are so upset after the 74-0 result. It was one of the most embarrassing things I've seen. But I do also remember, for example, when we lost 56-6 and 66-12 in consecutive weeks 2001, in a season that included the infamous Hopoate finger plus McGuinness and Field getting done for coke. I remember 2004 mid-season when we got done 50-0 and 56-0 in consecutive weeks. We did rebound from those low points. It is quite reasonable that if you stick to the plan, you can achieve long-term results.

Success now is the only thing people want to see. But everything you said here is how you build a club back to success. 2005 was no fluke. Because neither was that dominating Raiders side under Sheens. You can not like Tim Sheens as much as you like- but facts prove he knows how to build sustainable success.

 

[crazycat]

Joffa & Blore are those guys. Joffa was forced out when he didn’t want to leave & Blore was told mid season he could go. Tells you all need to know really….

Yea, but look at those above too.

I can't fault Fulton (Liam). Chris Heighington was a decent club man.

But Blore has been very intermittent. On again off again.
Joffa, look we should have kept him yet look at how much we have lost with him.

I agree, we need a "fortress" style attitude. We need to own being tigers and not just do "moneyball" aka min/max picks.

 

[jirskyr]

Says something that for at least the last 10 years only belting after belting. Player roster changes, coach changes & nothing else changes.
The only change that hasn't happened is pascoe hagi and the board.
Let's try changing that coz everything has been tried & hasn't made a scrap of difference

Yes... but so long as people accept the very real possibility that (a) changing the upper management does nothing, or (b) changing the upper management derails the current strategy and we go back to another rebuild.

In other words - I'm not saying don't do it, and it definitely hasn't been done recently, but don't complain in 2-3 years if we are not fixed. When you get down to the final argument of "it's the only thing we haven't tried" - that by definition means you have arrived at probably the most risky and least logical move, a scorched-Earth mentality.

For example, what happens if there really is a factional split between Sheens and Fulton? If you oust Pascoe and Lee, you might find Sheens takes control and sidelines Fulton, and it might actually be Sheens who is the core of the current problem (given that we ousted the previous coach on his advice). It might actually be that Scott Fulton is the one who is going to drive new and key changes within the long-term strategy.

Also accept that the Board is extremely unlikely to step down and really what fans are gunning for are the bishop and knight pieces on the board.

 

[supercoach]

You do realise Manase is in jail for another few years right. The rest of the family are just going to uproot from everything and everyone they know and leave their son/brother behind? When family is the most important thing in their life..
And we can offer a lot more money and opportunity than they can. Their pack is stacked, the have 4 halves signed already.

Crossed my mind also, would seem an odd thing to do. Than again the family may think it is important to get the rest of the family right away from where they are now to try and avoid history repeating itself

 

[TurnStyle]

Agree about the idea of a system, but disagree about the systems we have now and have had in the past.

2005 was not a fluke, I hate when people say this. You cannot win the NRL competition on a fluke. 2005 was the result of a plan working out perfectly; it only seems like a fluke because it worked out earlier than perhaps we expected.

But there was nothing miraculous about the way things gelled, it was planned. Sheens knew he had quality juniors and he knew he had to support them with astute signings, particularly players on the comeback (cheaper to purchase) and some older mentors to guide them.

He knew Benji and Farah were potentially elite talent and immediately gave them a taste of FG in 2003. He made some astute junior signings at the same time via Laffranchi and Heighington, to support other quality juniors like Fulton and Gibbs coming through. He backed Hodgson, Richards and Prince to recapture the form they were capable of, and he picked up some reliable clubmen like Whatuira and Elford to bolster our capability across the park.

There's nothing flukey about that, and it makes perfect sense, for example, that you would try and sign a guy like Scott Prince to partner Benji, knowing Prince always had huge potential so long as the injuries could be managed.

The Tigers clearly improved from 13th 2003 to 9th 2004 to 4th 2005 in the regular season. They clearly developed as a side and may have even done better in 2004 had Benji and Farah not gotten long-term injured.

It also helped that Sheens predicted where the reffing style was headed in 2005 and both coached and recruited for a fast-flowing pro-attack style.

After that, Sheens proved he could get the team back to top-tier football by changing his strategy up a bit. Benji had that bad run of shoulder injuries from 2006 and Prince/Laffranchi were poached by Titans for 2007, and the reality is that Tigers had never had the depth or long-term financing to absorb massive hits to a plan like that. But Sheens got them back to the top and I don't think it's hyperbole to say the 2010-2011 teams were probably better overall than the 2005 side that won.

Since then, we don't stick to any plan. Coaches are given 2-3 years then hoiked. We moved away from junior development because we were unhappy with the boom/bust cycles of Tim Sheens, and we tried to polish our brand rather than rely on the gritty / partially risky / high-attack style of football that worked for us on and off. We hired coaches that promised to make us defensive powerhouses.

I personally believe that had Sheens stayed on after 2012, he could have taken that new crop of juniors via Brooks / Moses / Tedesco and developed a new top-flight team. He had the basics there, plus others like Koroibete, Woods, Simona, Lawrence. But I understand why, after 10 years, the management felt they wanted to move on from that boom-bust cycle.

Right now 2023 we are trying to go back to that Sheens-style plan of getting a young and competitive team that can challenge for the finals over several seasons. But part of the challenge is we are trying to do this from dead last and from a decade-long losing streak, rather than a baseline of teams that are already on the fringe of finals contention.

Fans and media are already calling for Sheens to be sacked or Benji to be brought forward, and now this big push to get Pascoe and Lee H pushed out. I'm not particularly for or against such arguments, but everyone does need to keep in mind the bigger picture that the Sheens/Marshall rebuild is less than 1 season old. It's not a terrible strategy, even if the results in 2023 are horrendous. It may be true that Sheens is no longer capable of developing a finals-bound side and it may turn out that Benji can't coach, but as a multi-year plan it's not horrendous.

But fundamentally fans have had enough of the failure and it seems nobody is really willing to give Sheens and Benji the 4-5 seasons that would legitimately be required to turn things around. Lee H calls for patience and people basically want to rip his hat off.

Even the recruitment 2022-2023 is not scattershot, as you described it. The identified weaknesses in the forwards and addressed them. The single recruitment drive of Api / IP / Klemmer / Bateman is, on paper, arguably one of the best in Tigers history. They have targeted a top-flight halfback despite the lack of pulling power of the club. But the backs are weak and the hyped-up juniors are just a few too many seasons away, rather than the perfect storm of 2004-2005.

I understand why people are so upset after the 74-0 result. It was one of the most embarrassing things I've seen. But I do also remember, for example, when we lost 56-6 and 66-12 in consecutive weeks 2001, in a season that included the infamous Hopoate finger plus McGuinness and Field getting done for coke. I remember 2004 mid-season when we got done 50-0 and 56-0 in consecutive weeks. We did rebound from those low points. It is quite reasonable that if you stick to the plan, you can achieve long-term results.

Wow. Awesome post @jirskyr 🏆

 

[SeanT]

Mainstream Media Circus. Wests Tigers express interest in Sharks halfback. Following the departure of Luke Brooks for next season, the Wests Tigers are on the hunt for a new halfback.

Previously expressing interest in Manly Sea Eagles youngster Latu Fainu, Catalans Dragons veteran Mitchell Pearce and NSW Blues star Mitchell Moses, the club has now set their sights on Braydon Trindall.

Joining the Cronulla Sharks in 2018, the future looked bright for Trindall, who debuted for the club two seasons later.

The primary halfback for the backend of the 2021 season, he was unfortunately overtaken by Nicho Hynes the following year, which saw his minutes decrease as he moved to the interchange bench.

The Wests Tigers have already expressed interest in the 23-year-old, per the Sydney Morning Herald, and the race to sign him could pick up given Luke Brooks will depart the club at the end of the season.

While he isn't off-contract until the end of 2025, the Sharks are likely to offer him a release considering he won't overtake Hynes in the No.7 jersey.

Plus, the re-signing of Daniel Atkinson means he could easily enter the team if injuries occur to Hynes or Matt Moylan.

Cronulla Fan " Sharks would be stupid to let him go. Much better to play Trindall in the halves with Hynes and retire Matt Moyland. It’s another example of Craig Fitzgibbon frozen into immobility; playing poorly performing old guys like Moyland, Wade Graham and Dale Finucane, rather than starting the youngsters like Trindall , Colquhoun and Hazleton".

Why would he come here? He stays a year and he be the halfback for a top 4 side.

Can you imagine if we get to 2024 and we ha e no halves. Where's the clown music 😄

 

[TonyTiger]

I haven’t seen Fulton quoted anywhere, i actually thought he was a made up character in Gadgets mind.

I think Fulton is professional enough to work behind the scenes, unlike the serial leakers here over the years … no doubt he’s working his magic in the background.
We’ve pre ejaculated our intentions too often in the past.
No news is good news after all the false starts and fake news in relation to signings over the years.