Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[watersider]

I get the negativity around Sullivan but he's a good signing for us. He's so far been an erratic running 5/8 type but he has big potential and could be a good NRL player if he sorts it out. I think he could be an organising half if he played more consistently, but he obviously hasn't proven that yet.

Our options are limited, these are the sort of players we have to sign: promising young ones at other clubs that aren't getting a go. I don't see any other way.

He may not work out, and that would be another big disappointment, but there's not a better alternative to this approach.

How many times would people like us to fail at signing big name players before accepting this sort of signing?

 

[bptiger 0]

Is think so too... Cogger out of the equation... Sezer and Sullivan not at his level.
Is walker a free agent?

I don’t think so , maybe got 1 more year , but he is on the nose at the roooters, and they want to overhaul there team so he maybe they would release him , offer him 4 years at his current rate or a touch higher

 

[teddy23]

People are overhyping the Sullivan signing a little too much.

He still has a lot to prove until he's looked at as a long term 7 option. He's exactly what we need though as a backup option to put some pressure on not only himself but our halves within to compete for the 7 spot. He has talent but his issue has been translating it to FG hence why Dragons are happy to let him go but he's definitely an improvement on Brandon Wakeham/Will Smith.

I would still be looking for a marquee 7 to partner Fainu long term. Dearden is my choice as the Cowboys have some cap issues and not too sure if they can improve there 660k offer too much.

 

[BalmainJnr]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1686858058310483970

Doesn’t sound like Holbrook will be Benji’s assistant.

 

[Red88_Tiger]

People are overhyping the Sullivan signing a little too much.

He still has a lot to prove until he's looked at as a long term 7 option. He's exactly what we need though as a backup option to put some pressure on not only himself but our halves within to compete for the 7 spot. He has talent but his issue has been translating it to FG hence why Dragons are happy to let him go but he's definitely an improvement on Brandon Wakeham/Will Smith.

I would still be looking for a marquee 7 to partner Fainu long term. Dearden is my choice as the Cowboys have some cap issues and not too sure if they can improve their 660k offer too much.

Assuming deardon is available for 25

 

[weststigerman]

Sullivan is a risk, no doubt, but he's 21 which is very young for a half.

It's important to remember Moses left us he was 22 and I think most of us thought he was a weak person, a tanker, and absolutely not a game manager. He's still an unlikeable person, but he's matured into a top halfback.

Time will tell if he develops like Moses or like Brooks. Admittedly we haven't done well with this in the past.

 

[Stevec]

Honestly what do you expect from Fulton he has only ever done first grade recruitment for 6 months at Manly and was shown the door he needs time to learn he is only a rookie hopefully Lee has given him Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon's book The art of the deal or what ever it was called

Now I'm confused Lee and Pascoe want to fix our recruitment so they bring in a rookie recruiter who was shown the door at his previous employer ?

 

[Furious1]

Sullivan is a risk, no doubt, but he's 21 which is very young for a half.

It's important to remember Moses left us he was 22 and I think most of us thought he was a weak person, a tanker, and absolutely not a game manager. He's still an unlikeable person, but he's matured into a top halfback.

Time will tell if he develops like Moses or like Brooks. Admittedly we haven't done well with this in the past.

Normally I don't get involved in these discussions, but I think you're right. We have been struggling for depth big time. Sullivan will provide a few things for us. Depth, youth and a bit of X factor. Like you say, he is still very young for half in the NRL and a few his age have elected to keep playing reserve grade and learn their trade then chase the big time early.
I'm not sure on the price, but on rumoured numbers including Sezer if he comes, there is no way we have overspent with an ever increasing salary cap.
Attitude is a symptom of youth and most people grow out of it. As far as potential, he has it, obviously the challenge is to realise it, the ball will be in his court.

 

[The-moP]

We are rumoured to be chasing the Broncs young prop, forcing up the $ they have to pay to retain Haas is a good move. I couldn't envisage him ever contemplating a move to the WTs, which I believe is a good outcome for us.

Im hoping that it extinguish the rumour that we are signing a current NSW Origin player that will be a bigger signing than Api and Isaiah Papalii .. ;-)

 

[twentyforty]

What difference does 2/3 yr contract make. They can break their contracts whenever they wish anyway

Its only when a player doesnt want to break his contract that you find out the real value.

 

[Flippedy]

That guy must be completely pooped after all the pooping he does on us.

He is a poop!

 

[twentyforty]

Now I'm confused Lee and Pascoe want to fix our recruitment so they bring in a rookie recruiter who was shown the door at his previous employer ?

Im not convinced that we had to hire Fulton so we could sign the Fainus. I would have given that job to Api?

 

[Tiger-ferret]

at least we might score some points lol...

i actually prefer losing when we actually are fun to watch.... right now losing is the worst bc we cant even score...

yeah - youre probably right

It is frustrating when we can get to the 20 easy…

 

[Flippedy]

mark my words... sullivan is going to be another shite signing... Flanno has shifted him onto us... because he knows how to rebuild a roster...

my father turned 80 this year... he loves saying "he who lives in hope, dies in hope"...

Sullivan is another "hope" signing... another guy who has a poor reputation at another club -- but that "we will get the best out of him... because he needs a change, needs a go, we have the best coaches who are similar to him etc etc"...

The guy has a bad attitude to training, a string of hamstring issues, and was unwanted, has played a handful of games and is unproven - yet we have taken him for 3 years? lol. to be our what 6, 7? start as 6 and then move to 7 when Sezer leaves so Fainu can play 6? Can be our #14 if he doesnt work at 6 or 7? So basically like another Douehi or Mbye -- they worked out well. lol.

My cousin is a major sponsor of the dragons -- speaks to the coaches -- goes into the dressing before and after games -- and said everyone is glad to see him leave... Flanno was just bluffing they wouldnt chip in... and now we are getting him lol

Hmmm if true, it sounds like we’d have been better off keeping Laurie. I hope it doesn’t turn out to be another one of those Brooks over Hastings decisions.

 

[Demps]

HAHAHA!! You're kidding right?
I've seen some very ordinary players carve us up...

He ran two tries in with ease as soon as he came on...

You forget ?

 

[Needaname]

I keep hearing Wighton will be left backrow.

That actually makes more sense then playing him at lock. Regardless of whether Cam Murray is in the side or not.
He would start to mould into a Wade Graham type of backrower.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

The Illawarra has produced quite a few good 7s and 6s over the years. Sullivan, Amone and Sloan are the latest crop produced from the Steelers. I think Sullivan will have a lot to offer the WTs.

 

[Tom Shines]

I see no evidence of the Sullivan signing being reported in the media ?

 

[a_dog]

mark my words... sullivan is going to be another shite signing... Flanno has shifted him onto us... because he knows how to rebuild a roster...

my father turned 80 this year... he loves saying "he who lives in hope, dies in hope"...

Sullivan is another "hope" signing... another guy who has a poor reputation at another club -- but that "we will get the best out of him... because he needs a change, needs a go, we have the best coaches who are similar to him etc etc"...

The guy has a bad attitude to training, a string of hamstring issues, and was unwanted, has played a handful of games and is unproven - yet we have taken him for 3 years? lol. to be our what 6, 7? start as 6 and then move to 7 when Sezer leaves so Fainu can play 6? Can be our #14 if he doesnt work at 6 or 7? So basically like another Douehi or Mbye -- they worked out well. lol.

My cousin is a major sponsor of the dragons -- speaks to the coaches -- goes into the dressing before and after games -- and said everyone is glad to see him leave... Flanno was just bluffing they wouldnt chip in... and now we are getting him lol

Sounds like what people were saying about Jackson Hastings.
Sullivan is a prodigious talent that plays a position we desperately need. You'll have to give me evidence he touches kids to get me to feel bad about it. Second hand stories about people not liking him I couldn't care less about. The Dragons as a club are full of f-wits down to a number so if he's disliked there it's probably evidence he's a good bloke.

 

[jrtiger]

I see no evidence of the Sullivan signing being reported in the media ?

here's a tidbit in a DT article today mainly about Max Feagai getting shopped.

"Sullivan is expected to join the Tigers next season on a deal likely to be up to four years. A straight up three-year offer with an option for a fourth year is being discussed."