Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[pawsandclaws1]

I totally agree but when do you stop believing and expecting. We expected something from Brooks ever since his debut and 10 years we got nothing we expected from the "next joey Johns". I love Matamua and Tumeth and I would love to give them 3 years to develop then reevaluate their contracts. But BWM hasn't shown much and in reserve grade he has been outplayed by Jack Boyling on the other edge who has a outshined him in every way. So when do we lose hope with some young players?

Webster-Mansfield, Matamua and Tumeth are very early in their careers and in respect of the latter he has played consistent junior reps. As we've seen with Seyfarth, some players take time to develop, mature and find a coach who will play them to their strengths. Gould is big on this issue. Pole was always an NRL player which was obvious at Balmain and also in the U20s and Fa'agutu looks to be on the same trajectory.

 

[teddy23]

Nah.. Apparently the Tigers didnt want him ..at $250k… better to go with Wakeham

Not true… the club wanted Pearce for this season and the next however negotiations stalled from both parties (didn’t know the reason on why but @Mystery post makes sense) and Pearce informed us he’d like to play out the season and look into his options for next year and was very open to the idea of coming to us. The key reason they wanted Pearce was so he could play for us this year, when that was no longer a possibility the club went another direction with Seizer.

The club turned their attention on Moses as it was made aware that he was a good chance of potentially coming to us. Now Moses has rejected the deal and the club might’ve considered Seizer’s age factor given his deal would provide more value to us as there was no halves on the market and Pearce’s health could provide setbacks like it did for us this year when AD/Brooks went down in the second year.

The whole reason they wanted Pearce was the experience around the park, Wakeham’s deal will be pretty much replaced by Latu and Sullivan.

 

[Tom Shines]

Not true… the club wanted Pearce for this season and the next however negotiations stalled (didn’t know the reason on why but @Mystery post makes sense) and Pearce informed us he’d like to play out the season and look into his options for next year and was very open to the idea of coming to us.

The club then turned their attention on Moses as it was made aware that he was a good chance of potentially coming to us. Now Moses has rejected the deal and the club might’ve considered Seizer’s age factor given his deal would provide more value to us as there was no halves on the market and Pearce’s health could provide setbacks like it did for us this year when AD/Brooks went down.

The whole reason they wanted Pearce was the experience around the park, Wakeham’s deal will be pretty much replaced by Latu and Sullivan.

mate.. read his initial comment that I responded to… it said he agreed to come here for $250k… then it didint happen because Moses,,,do you believe this or not ?

 

[teddy23]

mate.. read his initial comment that I responded to… it said he agreed to come here for $250k… then it didint happen because Moses,,,do you believe this or not ?

I don’t think the 250k figure is correct - from memory it was $1.5 million over 2 years according to reports.

All I know is initially the club did want him but then negotiations stalled. The reason might’ve very well been because of Moses.

If we didn’t have the Moses negotiations lingering on in the background I firmly believe Pearce would be in a Wests Tigers jersey right now.

 

[earl]

Fox Sports reporting Hull FC interest in Blore for 2024. The same article reports our interest in Luke Thompson as well as the Dragons.

This would be terrible roster management by the club.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

This would be terrible roster management by the club.

Maybe Fox read the forum!

 

[Tom Shines]

I don’t think the 250k figure is correct - from memory it was $1.5 million over 2 years.

All I know is initially the club did want him but then negotiations stalled. The reason might’ve very well been because of Moses.

If we didn’t have the Moses negotiations lingering on in the background I firmly believe Pearce would be in a Wests Tigers jersey right now.

I know that they wanted him,,, my entire issue was with the post that said he ”agreed to come here for $250k”…

My take is that he never agreed to come here at any stage,,, his quotes in the media were that he wasn’t interested..

See attached

Mitchell Pearce responds to staggering $1.5 million play by Wests Tigers

The club's call to try and bring Mitchell Pearce back to the NRL has certainly caused a reaction. Find out more here.

au.sports.yahoo.com

 

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[earl]

I'd like to see some official announcements from the club but a 1 year deal for Sezer sounds great for us. If he doesn't work out it's not an issue.

 

[Tigers_Wests]

I'd like to see some official announcements from the club buy a 1 year deal for Sezer sounds great for us. If he doesn't work out it's not an issue.

Agreed. If they are done, as reported. Why not announce them straight away. Pretty sure the whole fan base would like some more positive news!

 

[innsaneink]

Sounds like a bit of a coup picking up Havea.... Well done Fulton

 

[Nounny]

We are chasing Olakau’atu as well as manly under salary cap pressure ! That would be nice !

 

[Tigers_Wests]

Sounds like a bit of a coup picking up Havea.... Well done Fulton

Pretty sure he has been in our young Cubs Pathway squad. Locking him in with us for 3 more years is great though! Will probably play up a year in our Harold Matthews team in 2024 you would think.

 

[TigerSkins05]

We are chasing Olakau’atu as well as manly under salary cap pressure ! That would be nice !

Sea Eagles skipper Daly Cherry-Evans drops down to a tick under $1 million next season while the departure of the Fainu brothers – Latu and Samuela – to the Wests Tigers also saves Manly $800,000 in the cap next season.

The northern peninsula club is also aware of the Wests Tigers circling backrower Haumole Olakau’atu but the Sea Eagles remain adamant the strike edge backrower will remain part of the Manly set-up for next season and beyond.

Olakau’atu was upgraded this season with the Sea Eagles plan to try and extend him beyond his current contract until the end of 2025 at the end of this season.

 

[Wiz]

Webster-Mansfield, Matamua and Tumeth are very early in their careers and in respect of the latter he has played consistent junior reps. As we've seen with Seyfarth, some players take time to develop, mature and find a coach who will play them to their strengths. Gould is big on this issue. Pole was always an NRL player which was obvious at Balmain and also in the U20s and Fa'agutu looks to be on the same trajectory.

Gould says you can’t properly judge a forward in the NRL until they are 24 years of age.

 

[weststigerman]

We certainly have a lot of good young forwards coming through.

It would be nice to have some tall fast outside backs to complement that. Also, sounds like Conti might be headed to Rugby so we might be short on young halves as well outside of Large.

 

[Tom Shines]

Keep buying forwards boys … can never have enough…

 

[Tigers_Wests]

We certainly have a lot of good young forwards coming through.

It would be nice to have some tall fast outside backs to complement that. Also, sounds like Conti might be headed to Rugby so we might be short on young halves as well outside of Large.

When you invest in 2 young halves (Fainu and Sullivan) with 4 Year Top 30 contracts, there will always be some casualties below them. Look at Panthers who have lost many good halves from their system of late.

We would still have Galvin, Mason, Isdale, Large and Matai on the books who all played halves for much of their time in the juniors.

Would like us to keep Conti, but he probably has a greater chance of making it to the top quicker in union.

The important part for Tigers now is prioritising the 'right' juniors underneath our main core. Clearly Galvin heads that list with a top 30 spot next year. I would imagine Large is another one who we desperately try to keep on the books and hopefully our other Aus Schoolboy Mason (as a half/fullback utility).