OFFICIAL Sheens gone

[crazycat]

The long term plans don't work because they were never long term plans from the outset. They were thought bubbles created under the heat of responding to yet another stuff up. The fact that they came up with the Sheens / Benji plan only a week or so being knocked back by Ciraldo indicates that this wasn't a long term plan that was comprehensively thought through, debated, alternatives assessed, etc. like most long term plans are. What they came up with is the equivalent of writing it up on the back of a coaster over a beer, looking at it, and saying, "hey, that could work, let's give this a go". No wonder it all unravels so quickly. A successful club needs a good CEO, a good Head of Footy and a good Head Coach. It is the governance spine that determines how successful a club is in recruiting, developing and holding players at fair market value and having them perform at close to their best most weeks. Can we honestly say Wests Tigers have any of these at the moment? No disrepect to Benji, I hope he makes a great head coach, but he is not even out of coaching daipers yet.

Long term plans Do work.

What you are saying is that this is a "brain fart" not a "long term plan", i.e. "hey... lets give this a go"
In that I totally agree. the decision to go Sheens + Benji + Farah was so Risky. In this I do blame the board as if that plan fails, what's our backup? Tim Brasher?

A good long term plan however could work. IMHO if we had a plan for halfback we could list players we want to come here and identify them. Then when say Adam Reynolds hits contract trouble at Souths we could grab him instead of the Donkeys (we were not that different on the ladder at the time).

Likewise a long term plan to improve defense. Get a tackling coach, seek out specific coaches who are known to train good defensive structures.

You are right, this Brain fart failed. It is not a long term plan.

 

[hank37w]

What this whole shambles really exposes is that over the past decade the club has never really had a long term plan to improve the team's fortunes on the field. Firstly they replaced Madge, which I can't really complain about, having steered the team from 9th to 11th to 13th and a only couple of wins midway through the season in which he was sacked. But they sacked him without a replacement! That is just inept. Then they publicly go after Ciraldo with the narrative of a young up and coming coach, a development club, etc.

If only we could of signed Ciraldo for 5 years he could of been sacked by now.

 

[Tom Shines]

Why did I choose to follow this embarrassment of a club. My family weren’t into nrl. I could have chosen anyone. I am at the point where I would prefer they kicked us out of the comp.

Even though I have lived my entire life in the Northern Beaches … I chose to support this club over Manly…. one of the worst decisions of my life 😢…

I still couldnt give up on them 40 years later though … no matter how depressing the past decade …

 

[Merlot]

This seems to be a popular opinion but not one i understand. If Sheens/Benji were professionals, they would continue to do their role in coaching the team regardless of the Fulton appointment. In fact, they should be perhaps not embracing the appointment but at least curious as to whom Fulton may be able to get to strengthen the roster they are coaching. If Fulton is/was a timebomb then, to me, it shows a shortcoming of Sheens/Benji.
I do not say this in defence of LH or JP, they are the fools who appointed Sheens/Benji in the first place.

my comment was based on the line,now recruitment boss scott fulton weilds considerable power in the club/from the SMH article.yes Sheens n Bunji should suck it up,point being LH JP etc always seem to kiss the new guys backside whilst shafting that just recantly cheek they been kissing of late ,straight out the door,its like their speed dating with no out come but their own gratifacation ,hope that helped-doubt it lol

 

[krissy]

Even though I have lived my entire life in the Northern Beaches … I chose to support this club over Manly…. one of the worst decisions of my life 😢…

I still couldnt give up on them 40 years later though … no matter how depressing the past decade …

Anyone but Manly, always.
Stay strong

 

[Suzie-Q]

Of course he has had enough of the club. If you know anything about Sheens the minute they publically undermined him with the appointment of Fulton there was no going back. It is/was untenable and just wonder now where Benji stands.

Spot on.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

This is good. Really really good.
The focus is not on the real problem.
Just the scapegoats. Not the people who are responsible for today's headlines. They are not held accountable. Again.
Lets put the icing on this cake and sign Tevita Pangai Junior.
Also - i might add - it' s reassuring to see some of you arguing amongst one another. Their plan worked well. It took the focus of the cancer and on the band aid.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

Spot on.

Where does he stand? How bout Purgatory. Telltails

 

[bptiger 0]

I know everyone on here has taken a shot at sheens even some have had a dig at benji , but I am not sure they were the problem, we loss AD early on , I just think we tried to win games through the forwards knowing we had crap backs and it failed . Take the last couple of weeks we have played some attacking football and have looked half decent, THE thing I can’t forgive both Tim and benji for is letting joffa go and the constant rumours that this player is next to go or that one . U can’t bulit trust on that crap . We need another two forwards for next year regardless of we some on here think and we need a class centre, me I would buy bevan French even pay overs , but if benji can’t sign 3 guns by the start of next season he should follow sheens out the door . Just my take on things

 

[Moh]

What a load of crap man.

Was never a fan of the appointment, but having Benji as head coach next year is going to be even worse. The guy has no coaching credentials, and does not have the temperament of one.

Happy to be proven wrong, but this is going to be disastrous.

Must get experience around him. Non-Tiger blood experience.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

Here is the club PR spin:

Sheens and Wests Tigers agree to part ways

Wests Tigers and Tim Sheens have mutually agreed to part ways with the four-time premiership winning coach finishing up at the end of this season.

www.weststigers.com.au

 

[Tom Shines]

I know everyone on here has taken a shot at sheens even some have had a dig at benji , but I am not sure they were the problem, we loss AD early on , I just think we tried to win games through the forwards knowing we had crap backs and it failed . Take the last couple of weeks we have played some attacking football and have looked half decent, THE thing I can’t forgive both Tim and benji for is letting joffa go and the constant rumours that this player is next to go or that one . U can’t bulit trust on that crap . We need another two forwards for next year regardless of we some on here think and we need a class centre, me I would buy bevan French even pay overs , but if benji can’t sign 3 guns by the start of next season he should follow sheens out the door . Just my take on things

Just sign Sullivan, another Half for short term depth ( Sezer will do) + re-sign Staines plus one more experienced Center/Winger…

They have enough forwards and don’t think they have any more spots…

 

[BrissieTiger67]

What a load of crap man.

Was never a fan of the appointment, but having Benji as head coach next year is going to be even worse. The guy has no coaching credentials, and does not have the temperament of one.

Happy to be proven wrong, but this is going to be disastrous.

Must get experience around him. Non-Tiger blood experience.

Or double down and parachute Charlie Sheen in to the club. We could also save some money on some of Tims personalized gear

 

[patwalker]

I read on a facebook post that Sheens is apparently suffering early signs of dementia which is why he decided to pull the pin. No idea how true that is, and coming from facebook I take it with a grain of salt. But it would explain a few things.

 

[Tom Shines]

What a load of crap man.

Was never a fan of the appointment, but having Benji as head coach next year is going to be even worse. The guy has no coaching credentials, and does not have the temperament of one.

Happy to be proven wrong, but this is going to be disastrous.

Must get experience around him. Non-Tiger blood experience.

What temperament is that ?

I have seen a lot of different temperaments from different coaches… Bennett/ Stuart/ Cleary/ Robinson/ Bellamy are all pretty different and have all had a lot of success,,,

 

[Tom Shines]

I read on a facebook post that Sheens is apparently suffering early signs of dementia which is why he decided to pull the pin. No idea how true that is, and coming from facebook I take it with a grain of salt. But it would explain a few things.

Unlikely I think…

 

[tigermate]

Benji is very raw and pretty unprofessional

If anyone heard his interview with kemp in SEN in NZ over the weekend he used the words bro and choice etc…

I get boys talk etc

But he’s the head coach now…

He’s a kid still.

I’ve been pushing Wayne Bennet onto Justin… let’s see … lol… sigh him for next year for three years and have benji understudy

Wayne wants to coach in 2025 and finishes up…

I reckon we need a proper head coach who is solid

 

[tiger_scott]

The inside scoop:

This was the plan all along from Mr Tim Sheens:

With the Wests Tigers APPEARING to be at a low, he takes his 500K payout and puts it on the WT at 100/1 to win the 2024 Premiership. The WT winning turns his money into 50M. Half of which he uses to set himself up in a castle in England in retirement. The other half is used to buy the WT, which he gifts to the fans - one share for every year you've shaken your head in disbelief/support. Thanks Sheensy!

In Vinnie Jones voice: "cheeky bugger!"

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

I read on a facebook post that Sheens is apparently suffering early signs of dementia which is why he decided to pull the pin. No idea how true that is, and coming from facebook I take it with a grain of salt. But it would explain a few things.

Who knows. Wish best health to everyone. But the people who employed him also seem in the same boat.

 

[SeanT]

I know everyone on here has taken a shot at sheens even some have had a dig at benji , but I am not sure they were the problem, we loss AD early on , I just think we tried to win games through the forwards knowing we had crap backs and it failed . Take the last couple of weeks we have played some attacking football and have looked half decent, THE thing I can’t forgive both Tim and benji for is letting joffa go and the constant rumours that this player is next to go or that one . U can’t bulit trust on that crap . We need another two forwards for next year regardless of we some on here think and we need a class centre, me I would buy bevan French even pay overs , but if benji can’t sign 3 guns by the start of next season he should follow sheens out the door . Just my take on things

Losong AD early on isnt a bad thing. He isnt a 6 sp hopefully his injury puts an end to it