Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

TurnStyle said:
I never said I was blind to it. I think it is silly having to skirt around simple facts like someone's skin colour. If someone goes away on holiday in winter and comes back with a tan does that change them?

As I said, you can't say anything these days without people getting all self righteous and patronising. I think it is counter productive to solving real issues when people don't feel like they can be completely open.

The fact you got upset only reinforces my point.

Anyway, I appreciate your point, but let's get back to signings and rumours.
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I'm not upset, though: I'm pointing out that you, and several others, are the ones who brought race into it. I'm totally fine to talk about something else but you are the one who introduced race to the conversation. And, completely predictably, having done so you immediately want to change the subject when you're challenged on your views.

So sure, fine: let's talk about something else. I'll just leave it here that your decision to make this a conversation about race has not been "silenced" - I've engaged with what you said in a reasonable, polite fashion as I would on any other topic you decided to raise that I have an opinion about. You've been "completely open" (I assume - or is there something else you'd like to say about Latrell Mitchell's race that you've not yet raised?) and I've expressed my disagreement. That's how discussion works.
 
2041 said:
I'm not upset, though: I'm pointing out that you, and several others, are the ones who brought race into it. I'm totally fine to talk about something else but you are the one who introduced race to the conversation. And, completely predictably, having done so you immediately want to change the subject when you're challenged on your views.

So sure, fine: let's talk about something else. I'll just leave it here that your decision to make this a conversation about race has not been "silenced" - I've engaged with what you said in a reasonable, polite fashion as I would on any other topic you decided to raise that I have an opinion about. You've been "completely open" (I assume - or is there something else you'd like to say about Latrell Mitchell's race that you've not yet raised?) and I've expressed my disagreement. That's how discussion works.
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Challenge me on my views all you like; I was merely accepting our differences and trying to get back on topic. But if you want to make yourself feel better by playing the archetypal sjw by ramming your point down my neck go ahead.

I'll point out that I was not in fact the poster who introduced race into this thread. I was saying he was doing himself no favours by using his heritage as a get out clause and I found his reasoning transparent and ridiculous.

I'm so sick and tired of pontificating pseudo intellects enforcing their own insecurities onto others in an attempt to try to appear to have the moral high ground.

"You sir, have NOT been silenced!"

I'm also sick and tired of the fact that EVERY time I say something that isn't 100% what the hive minded drones think I should, I have to point out that not only am I not racist, but that I do in fact have 3 half brothers, a half sister and several other relatives of indigenous heritage and descent.

So have your little win, feel good about yourself for your witty riposte incorrectly accusing someone (you have no knowledge of whatsoever) of being a racist, and let's get back on topic shall we?
 
2041 said:
What's an indictment on 2023 western society is that there are already three comments on this thread focused on Mitchell's race. Why has his race got anything to do with what he's like as a footballer? And how come, in this thread where we're commenting about media stories criticising Mitchell, so many people feel the need to immediately note that we're not allowed to criticise Mitchell because of his race?

If you people are all as blind to race as you claim to be, why mention it at all?

Here's my view: Mitchell is a phenomenal talent who seems to have real trouble delivering on a consistent basis and who it certainly seems may lack application. It now seems his current club may - though this is all based on rumour and media coverage, which of course we are all rightly dubious about - have badly mishandled him, in a way that amplifies rather than moderates his professional issues. See? Not hard, is it? Am I going to be arrested by the racism police?
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Q.“Why has his race got anything to do with what he’s like as a footballer? “
A. Because over a long, long, long period of time many, but not all, indigenous footballers have had a reputation for being a little lackadaisical, at times, in their approach to footy ( and life).
It’s also why they have the reputation for going walkabout, either physically( off the rails) or mentally.
Imo it’s not a slur, it’s just a fact, that I have witnessed many times in my 60+ years following sport, especially RL.
I hope Mitchell and Walker get their heads back together, for South’s sake.

Disclaimer:
The opinion stated above is purely my own and do not necessarily reflect those of the Wests Tigers Forum.
 
Halbrowne61 said:
Q.“Why has his race got anything to do with what he’s like as a footballer? “
A. Because over a long, long, long period of time many, but not all, indigenous footballers have had a reputation for being a little lackadaisical, at times, in their approach to footy ( and life).
It’s also why they have the reputation for going walkabout, either physically( off the rails) or mentally.
Imo it’s not a slur, it’s just a fact, that I have witnessed many times in my 60+ years following sport, especially RL.
I hope Mitchell and Walker get their heads back together, for South’s sake.

Disclaimer:
The opinion stated above is purely my own and do not necessarily reflect those of the Wests Tigers Forum.
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And there have also been non indigenous players who’ve done similar( in a slightly different way) but I refer to it in the context of why Mitchell and /or Walker may be struggling at present.
 
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