Didn't watch the game but can't assess defence purely on stats line. Not all missed tackles are created equal. A missed tackle where you stop the opponent but drop off before others finish him, or rush up to turn a player back inside or shooting out looking to stop progress against a bunched attack knowing there is more than enough defensive pressure behind to cover you are All acceptable but recorded as a miss.
Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion
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Kelce68
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To'a is not good under the high ball. That was one of the reasons he was moved from wing in the first place.
diedpretty
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Not a lot of highlights of either Fainu - Latu looked quick, Samuela looked ordinary in defence. The 2 who stood out for Blacktown were Weekes and Schuster. Schuster could be anything if he knuckled down.He was playing outside of Schuster.
NSWRL TV Highlights | NSW Cup Elimination Final - Raiders v Sea Eagles
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He's the #7 in these highlights^, playing left centre.
Samuela is the #11, playing left second row.
BlackWhiteGold
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It will be interesting who Sticky selects for Canberra to replace Kris on the wing. Will it be Schiller or Savage? Whoever misses out may want to look elsewhere for a better chance at NRL in '24!
BlackWhiteGold
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I mentioned in a post yesterday that it will be important for Fulton to nail our Train & Trial & wider NSW Cup recruits in the off-season as well as NRL squad.
I reckon it will be players with experience, leadership & strong work ethic both on-field & training to help develop our core of youngsters likely to play Cup next season to expose them to week-in-week-out rigours of playing against men.
With no injuries, I think our NSW Cup should look something like this ...
1 Naden (yes played fullback for Penrith in JF & provides experience & voice)
2 Lobb (from Dragons) / Ngutlik / Jordan Hill
3 Feledy
4 Reilly
5 Nofoaluma (unless we can offload him)
6 Latu Fainu
7 RECRUIT (hopefully Dean Hawkins or Kurt Falls)
13 Kit Laulilii
12 Tumeth
11 Samuela Fainu
10 Faagutu
9 Da Silva
8 RECRUIT (someone like a Morgan Boyle or we can retain Aitasi James on T&T)
Bench - Mansfield, Valevatu, Tofaeno,
Also recruit another experienced fullback just on a Cup contract (like a Jake Toby) & middle (like a Kane Evans) & back-up hooker just on Cup contracts for depth and experience.
I reckon it will be players with experience, leadership & strong work ethic both on-field & training to help develop our core of youngsters likely to play Cup next season to expose them to week-in-week-out rigours of playing against men.
With no injuries, I think our NSW Cup should look something like this ...
1 Naden (yes played fullback for Penrith in JF & provides experience & voice)
2 Lobb (from Dragons) / Ngutlik / Jordan Hill
3 Feledy
4 Reilly
5 Nofoaluma (unless we can offload him)
6 Latu Fainu
7 RECRUIT (hopefully Dean Hawkins or Kurt Falls)
13 Kit Laulilii
12 Tumeth
11 Samuela Fainu
10 Faagutu
9 Da Silva
8 RECRUIT (someone like a Morgan Boyle or we can retain Aitasi James on T&T)
Bench - Mansfield, Valevatu, Tofaeno,
Also recruit another experienced fullback just on a Cup contract (like a Jake Toby) & middle (like a Kane Evans) & back-up hooker just on Cup contracts for depth and experience.
tigerman 0
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Schuster looks like a man playing against u8s. Sublimely gifted. As big as a house though.He was playing outside of Schuster.
NSWRL TV Highlights | NSW Cup Elimination Final - Raiders v Sea Eagles
Catch up on all the action from the Canberra Raiders v Blacktown Workers in The Knock-On Effect NSW Cup Elimination Final.
He's the #7 in these highlights^, playing left centre.
Samuela is the #11, playing left second row.
Weekes looks sharp. Not much of him though hey.
Xavier Savage can’t make 1st Grade?! Lol
How annoying was the commentators rough blokey voice
pawsandclaws1
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There were some great passes from Schuster to open up the Raiders' defence. Kao Weekes also looked dangerous with the ball,He was playing outside of Schuster.
NSWRL TV Highlights | NSW Cup Elimination Final - Raiders v Sea Eagles
Catch up on all the action from the Canberra Raiders v Blacktown Workers in The Knock-On Effect NSW Cup Elimination Final.
He's the #7 in these highlights^, playing left centre.
Samuela is the #11, playing left second row.
Highlights is the only way to think Josh Schuster was good - In the game he failed to find touch with 2 penalties, he threw stupid passes, he was slow in defence leaving his outside men in trouble (the cause of a number of Fainu';s missed tackles). His good was brilliant as it should be playing NSW Cup but his bad was equally horrible.
weststigerman
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And what makes you think we won’t turn him into trash?
I’ve had better form last year than Olokautu had this year.
Been saying this for years, need to fix the standards in the place first.
BlackWhiteGold
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New Zealand Warriors confirm duo's departure, including brother of St Helens star
New Zealand Warriors have confirmed the departure of forwards Bayley Sironen and Valingi Kepu at the conclusion of their 2023 NRL campaign, reports claim.
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I wonder if we'll make a play for Bayley Sironen to return home to be our utility (hooker/2nd row/lock even 5/8 & centre) especially if we goodbye to Jake Simpkin & AJ Kepaoa (hopefully).
earl
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This is the problem with highlights. Good feedback as well.
twentyforty
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Let’s not forget that the majority on here wanted that sort of contract at the time.
balmain boy
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Exactly. Schuster is a classic highlights player. All flash, no consistency. Brooks was too to an extent.
Throw a nice pass or make a nice run here or there for an assist, which make the highlights, but then go missing and take a thousand bad options otherwise. Scoring once or twice means nothing if a halves' decision making mean you're under the pump for much of the game...
balmain boy
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With Matamua and Sullivan you've got someone who can cover the forwards and halves, and another who can cover halves, hooker and fullback.New Zealand Warriors confirm duo's departure, including brother of St Helens star
New Zealand Warriors have confirmed the departure of forwards Bayley Sironen and Valingi Kepu at the conclusion of their 2023 NRL campaign, reports claim.
I wonder if we'll make a play for Bayley Sironen to return home to be our utility (hooker/2nd row/lock even 5/8 & centre) especially if we goodbye to Jake Simpkin & AJ Kepaoa (hopefully).
tiger_scott
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(re Noffa) At the time he was being spoken about as a 'possible' for the NSW Blues. I think our recruitment team got spooked by Parra's advances. A lot like Manly's just did with Shuster. Giving him more $$$ & years than we probably should have. The $$$ hurt less than the years now, ie. the rumoured amount for a shorter period would have been better.
Tiger_Yoshi
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Sailor signed till end 2025… going nowherw
weststigerman
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We could have got Sailor on a train & trial 6 months ago. Gotta get in before they hit the big time.
Hopefully we've done that with Sullivan and Fainu.
Hopefully we've done that with Sullivan and Fainu.
Do you think Manly will be interested in a swap, Bateman for Big O ?
tigerman 0
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Are they mental?
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