Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Reasons FOR keeping Seyfarth- tries hard, improving, developed through our ranks, wouldn't break the bank balance.

Reasons FOR NOT keeping Seyfarth- doesn't strengthen the squad, fits somewhere between 14th & 22nd player on the roster, not worth a bidding war, only JUST starting to fit into 1st grade.

If Seyfarth stays, for mine, it has to be at the expense of another forward. Not additional to. So either one of the young guys goes & Seyfarth stays, or you let him move on. I like him, to a level. You don't lopside your squad balance to fit him in.

For mine, Seyfarth, Blore, Twal, Sione Fainu are fighting for 3 spots. Tumeth & Mansfield are staying. Fainu survives, rightly or wrongly, because of his brothers (and he reminds of Aitasi James so much). Twal is probably the pick of the group. So it's Seyfarth vs Blore.
 
Why is Morris considered a defensive coach? Surely he can do both? Rugby League isn't the NFL- the same guys that attack, also defend. Was Morris or Burgess the defensive coach at Souths?
 
Id probably rather keep Seyfarth over Tumeth or Mansfield but they have contracts while Seyfarth does not.

We have too many forwards and his spot should go to a winger like Staines.
We keep locking ourselves into development contracts where players end up taking a spot in the top 30, but aren't good enough to be considered for first grade
 
So everyone on here was complaining our forwards never bend the line or bust tackles & then complain that Seyfarth has been moved on? Don’t get me wrong he's improved leaps & bounds but there’s really no difference between him & Alex Twal as players.
Twal's defence is about 500 times better
 
Reasons FOR keeping Seyfarth- tries hard, improving, developed through our ranks, wouldn't break the bank balance.

Reasons FOR NOT keeping Seyfarth- doesn't strengthen the squad, fits somewhere between 14th & 22nd player on the roster, not worth a bidding war, only JUST starting to fit into 1st grade.

If Seyfarth stays, for mine, it has to be at the expense of another forward. Not additional to. So either one of the young guys goes & Seyfarth stays, or you let him move on. I like him, to a level. You don't lopside your squad balance to fit him in.

For mine, Seyfarth, Blore, Twal, Sione Fainu are fighting for 3 spots. Tumeth & Mansfield are staying. Fainu survives, rightly or wrongly, because of his brothers (and he reminds of Aitasi James so much). Twal is probably the pick of the group. So it's Seyfarth vs Blore.
Blore all day , next year injury free he will be a weapon
 
Reasons FOR keeping Seyfarth- tries hard, improving, developed through our ranks, wouldn't break the bank balance.

Reasons FOR NOT keeping Seyfarth- doesn't strengthen the squad, fits somewhere between 14th & 22nd player on the roster, not worth a bidding war, only JUST starting to fit into 1st grade.

If Seyfarth stays, for mine, it has to be at the expense of another forward. Not additional to. So either one of the young guys goes & Seyfarth stays, or you let him move on. I like him, to a level. You don't lopside your squad balance to fit him in.

For mine, Seyfarth, Blore, Twal, Sione Fainu are fighting for 3 spots. Tumeth & Mansfield are staying. Fainu survives, rightly or wrongly, because of his brothers (and he reminds of Aitasi James so much). Twal is probably the pick of the group. So it's Seyfarth vs Blore.
Its pretty much a top 29 for us as Sione is just there to keep the bro's happy.
 
Why is Morris considered a defensive coach? Surely he can do both? Rugby League isn't the NFL- the same guys that attack, also defend. Was Morris or Burgess the defensive coach at Souths?
Surely Burgess?
 
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Just hope the squad reshaping includes names like Olakau’atu and Koula?

These two players are exactly what we need but interestingly we are strong in the positions where you'd recruit these guys. Koula would have to be at fullback.

I am pretty sure Koula has signed a long term contract.
 
Yes we only need to do this if the kid is an. Absolute gun , Tumeth as example is not worth it plenty as good or better running around

I think Kit L looks like a first grader who we will get value for in first grade next year and he will be on a development contract.

I'm really not confident in letting go of Seyfarth though.

If he goes we'll have the following guys backing up our top 17:- Matamua, Mansfield, Tumeth, Sione Fainu & Asu Kepaoa. Kit L should slot in but that is a bare cupboard for middle forwards in the NRL. They'll have to get some train and trial players a go or something.

I am pretty sure we currently have 2 spots available. One has to go to a winger who I think will be expected to play first grade. Ideally we'd get Staines but I can see why the club would let him go. It's just a value for money issue.

I think if we don't sign Seyfarth we will need to sign another forward.

I suppose we have to wait and see what happens though because the club might work out some way to release more players. I still don't know who we'd sign though. It's not like there are a tonne of quality options out there.
 
Seyfarth is the victim of poor squad management and what happens when you have development contracts with top 30 clauses and promise uncapped youngsters spots to keep them happy. unfortunately that's the nature of the game and other players will become victims to it in the coming years when the junior talent continues to push thru.

in a very inexperienced squad he would've been good to have around but he's not a major loss in terms of what he brings physically. best of luck to him for his future endeavours.
 
We keep locking ourselves into development contracts where players end up taking a spot in the top 30, but aren't good enough to be considered for first grade
Yep, almost none of our "development" contract players have become regular first graders.

We've previously given them out to any young player. Giving them to the likes of Laulilli, Miller, Galvin would be better choices. Instead we've got Galvin in our top 30 and I have no idea what contract Miller is on.
 
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