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If it’s about shortage of spots in the top 30 then there are at least 6 players in our 30 who will never play NRL at any reasonable standard so I’d rather lose them before Twal.
We let him go and we struggle to find a better replacement- the way up is replacing deadwood for starting 17 NRL players, not the other way around.
The player has to attract interest from other clubs. You just can't get rid of contracted players unless another club takes the player.
 
People saying Keppie offers more than Twal need to elaborate. From what I have seen he would also offer lots of dropped balls, missed tackles and penalties conceded.
2023 stats
Twal: 29 Tackle Breaks, 832 post contact metres, 14 Offloads, 691 tackles made with 11 missed.
Keppie: 22 Tackle Breaks, 747 post contact metres, 6 Offloads, 475 tackles with 51 missed.

Like upgrading from a Falcon to a Lada
 
I'd much prefer To'a and Tupou.
What position did we come last two seasons again?
Both To a and Top on make a lot of mistakes in defence almost every game,do some great things in Ttack plus some really dumb things,and neither has great hands
Both have potential,but in our situation we need better
 
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I Think they're about the same,but Twal is a loyal and popular club man..
So it gets back to $$..
People saying Keppie offers more than Twal need to elaborate. From what I have seen he would also offer lots of dropped balls, missed tackles and penalties conceded.
2023 stats
Twal: 29 Tackle Breaks, 832 post contact metres, 14 Offloads, 691 tackles made with 11 missed.
Keppie: 22 Tackle Breaks, 747 post contact metres, 6 Offloads, 475 tackles with 51 missed.

Like upgrading from a Falcon to a Lada
 
People saying Keppie offers more than Twal need to elaborate. From what I have seen he would also offer lots of dropped balls, missed tackles and penalties conceded.
2023 stats
Twal: 29 Tackle Breaks, 832 post contact metres, 14 Offloads, 691 tackles made with 11 missed.
Keppie: 22 Tackle Breaks, 747 post contact metres, 6 Offloads, 475 tackles with 51 missed.

Like upgrading from a Falcon to a Lada
Agree. Twal is not particularly good. But he is definitely better than Keppie.
 
What position did we come last two seasons again?
Both To a and Top on make a lot of mistakes in defence almost every game,do some great things in Ttack plus some really dumb things,and neither has great hands
Both have potential,but in our situation we need better

I prefer them to Olam and Momo. We need players who can create something. I think our guys are better.
 
People saying Keppie offers more than Twal need to elaborate. From what I have seen he would also offer lots of dropped balls, missed tackles and penalties conceded.
2023 stats
Twal: 29 Tackle Breaks, 832 post contact metres, 14 Offloads, 691 tackles made with 11 missed.
Keppie: 22 Tackle Breaks, 747 post contact metres, 6 Offloads, 475 tackles with 51 missed.

Like upgrading from a Falcon to a Lada

From your stats it appears Keppie offers a lot more missed tackles.
 
The player has to attract interest from other clubs. You just can't get rid of contracted players unless another club takes the player.
Clearly- that’s a given, however, advising players of your intent and the club’s position in regards to their future - and then allowing them to look elsewhere, is the way that is done. My point is Twal is contracted until 2024 and could be extended further whilst others could be encouraged to move on. Clubs manage to do this every off season.
IMO Twal has more benefits to retain than almost half of our current 30.
 
Clearly- that’s a given, however, advising players of your intent and the club’s position in regards to their future - and then allowing them to look elsewhere, is the way that is done. My point is Twal is contracted until 2024 and could be extended further whilst others could be encouraged to move on. Clubs manage to do this every off season.
IMO Twal has more benefits to retain than almost half of our current 30.

Twal is looking for a deal past 2024 and the club apparently doesn’t want to extend him at this stage….I don’t blame them to be honest …

the comparison with other players on the squad is not really relevant to the decision you face today about keeping him for 2025 IMO
 
People saying Keppie offers more than Twal need to elaborate. From what I have seen he would also offer lots of dropped balls, missed tackles and penalties conceded.
2023 stats
Twal: 29 Tackle Breaks, 832 post contact metres, 14 Offloads, 691 tackles made with 11 missed.
Keppie: 22 Tackle Breaks, 747 post contact metres, 6 Offloads, 475 tackles with 51 missed.

Like upgrading from a Falcon to a Lada
Is there minutes played to go with those stats
Just a feeling but believe if twal moves he will be replaced by someone within seen as we’ve supposedly keeping seyfarth
 
News flash. Edge defence or should I say edge deficiencies start from the middle and one of the big contributors is having a lack of agile middles. With Klemmer, Stef and Twal all being very similar defensively it’s obvious we need to introduce some variety into our pack.
Umm....

On a lateral sweep, two things, and minor variations of those two things, contribute to the effectiveness of edge defence;

i) Can the sliding defence mitigate the speed of the half/fullback's speed to outside of his man?

Or

ii) Can an up and in defence kink the sweep through jamming, by shutting down the half (early jam) or centre /fb (late jam)?

A collapsing middle can lead to a number shortage out wide, but this is generally accumulative over a set, rather than a measure of effectiveness of an edge for a particular play.
 
People saying Keppie offers more than Twal need to elaborate. From what I have seen he would also offer lots of dropped balls, missed tackles and penalties conceded.
2023 stats
Twal: 29 Tackle Breaks, 832 post contact metres, 14 Offloads, 691 tackles made with 11 missed.
Keppie: 22 Tackle Breaks, 747 post contact metres, 6 Offloads, 475 tackles with 51 missed.

Like upgrading from a Falcon to a Lada
If Twal does move on, our prop depth will be Klemmer - Uto - Blore - Pole - Seyfarth - Sione Fainu - (Faagutu), so I can understand the interest in Keppie.

However we'd have to take on his current contract which is through until end 2026 ... I just can't see that happening for a depth prop.
 
Twal is looking for a deal past 2024 and the club apparently doesn’t want to extend him at this stage….I don’t blame them to be honest …

the comparison with other players on the squad is not really relevant to the decision you face today about keeping him for 2025 IMO

Exactly. I like Twal but he is looking for a long term deal and at this point we aren't looking to provide it. I think that is fair enough.
 

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