Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

The positives are endless.

They are but there has been positives for years. We continually under deliver.

I'm pretty happy with the recruitment that we've done so far and I expect there will be more roster changes prior to the season kicking off.

I hope the club realizes we are betting on kids coming good and we have to be careful about signing top dollar recruits who don't deliver value because we'll need cap dollars to retain these players.
 
The media is trying to paint us as having a toxic environment with lots of infighting, but if this is the case then why are players like Api and Stef committing to us? It's pretty clear that the players are buying into the culture of the club.

Really seems like we're turning a corner, but I know not to get my hopes up!
How would you describe this culture they are buying in to?
 
Have been preaching this for a while…. say what you want about Benji but I’m hearing he’s doing an outstanding job in terms of his ability to connect with players and getting them to buy into the culture he’s trying to implement.

I’ve said for a while both Stef and Ice aren’t leaving and want to give Benji chance. Big Stef has captain aspirations here for himself and pictures ending his career a one club player. A full pre-season under Benji with all 3 of Sullivan, Seizer and Latu Fainu guiding him around he could have a breakout year.

If we can get one more strike centre heading into 2024 I’ll be happy with our chances at the 8 - but that’s just my opinion.
I agree on all points, we are one strike centre, and maybe a winger off being a real decent team, I believe in our halves and what they will bring
 
Good to hear Steph verbally committing.
Good to hear Steph give the club a kick in the arse for always leaking dirty laundry.
Interesting that he used the media to deliver said kick up the arse.
You understand, of course, that there's a massive difference between doing an interview on the record where you express your opinions honestly and in public, and leaking things anonymously behind closed doors.
 
Ask yourself the question is Benji’s general reputation and respect within the game of Rugby League second to none ?
No. Not by a long way. He may be second tier level, but certainly not top tier.
Ask yourself the question is there any genuine reason why Benji won’t be a great coach ?
Never done it before at any level, at any grade on his own
Was given the reigns in attack this year, and returned the worst figures in the comp averaging 16 points per game.
Was a very instinctive player. Question marks over his ability to translate that knowledge.
Is a nice guy. Questions over his ability to act ruthlessly when required.
Is he of high intelligence? I’ve met him once and found him very personable, but not particularly insightful.
Is he able to think and act under pressure?
Doesn’t react well to scrutiny, which he will receive in bucketloads. How he handles external noise will be interesting.
There’s probably more but the above will make 2024 a tough year for him.
Ask yourself the question, do we have plenty of young players under 25 that at least show signs they can become very good NRL players ?
I wouldn’t say plenty, but there are some green shoots such as Steph, Pole, Blore, Bula…Papali’i?
And that’s not to mention our young players under 21 in which we have quite a few that were in demand from other clubs but have chosen to stay with us.
This is the area where the club will rise or burn.
Manage them incorrectly - which this club has huge prior form in and they’ll walk.
The positives are endless.
🤣
 
You understand, of course, that there's a massive difference between doing an interview on the record where you express your opinions honestly and in public, and leaking things anonymously behind closed doors.
No I don’t, please tell me.
 
Samoan and NSW front-rower Stefano Utoikamanu will abandon a top-eight get-out clause and pledge long-term loyalty to Wests Tigers - but has implored his embattled club to stop leaking to the media.
Utoikamanu, preparing for Saturday night’s Test match against Australia in Townsville, revealed a desire to renounce a contract clause stating he was free to leave Concord after next season if Wests Tigers failed to reach the finals.

It is a tremendous pick-me-up for the floundering club, who have commissioned a full review into another season of on-field failure.
While adamant he wanted to re-sign out of loyalty, Utoikamanu took a swipe at his club and at those divulging private club information to the media.
This masthead has been told that Wests Tigers coach Benji Marshall is becoming increasingly frustrated at the constant off-field dramas and headlines, fearing it may impact on recruitment and retention.
“Keeping everything in-house and not leaking will definitely help – not putting everything out to the media,” Utoikamanu said.
Wests Tigers forward Stefano Utoikamanu pledges loyalty to the club. Picture: NRL Photos

Wests Tigers forward Stefano Utoikamanu pledges loyalty to the club. Picture: NRL Photos
“We don’t help ourselves that much. Not just players but us as a club.
“It just hard – the whole thing – there’s probably too much coming out about us and it’s obviously not good.
“I feel like our club is in the media more than it would like to be. It’s not the best.
“The media bags us a bit too much – it’s not a good feeling. As players, we haven’t helped because we haven’t been getting the results everyone wants.”
Despite the constant drama at Concord, Utoikamanu – who played a game for NSW this year – wants to re-sign.
Although he has a clause, the giant prop officially comes off contract after 2025.
“No, I’ll be at the Tigers - I’ll be at the Tigers,” Utoikamanu repeated. “I want to stay there, that’s where I want to be, yeah.
“This is the club that gave me the opportunity to play rugby league at the highest level, in the NRL.
“Back at my old club (Parramatta), I didn’t get the same opportunity.
New Wests Tigers coach Benji Marshall. Picture: Izhar Khan/Getty

New Wests Tigers coach Benji Marshall. Picture: Izhar Khan/Getty
“I just want to give back (repay Wests Tigers loyalty).”
Utoikamanu embedded his desire to stay by praising the appointment of Benji Marshall as head coach.
“It will be good for us next year to have a fresh start. It’s probably what we need,” he said.
“Bringing Benji in, and him having this year under ‘Sheensy’ (Tim Sheens) will help him too, to understand what it’s like to be a head coach. I’m pretty excited to go into next year with Benji as coach.”

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Originally published as NRL 2023: Wests Tigers star warns club over in-house media leaks, shuts door on release clause
Absolutely brilliant from Stef!! Maybe he should change his get-out clause to be if there are too many media leaks? If we can't identify them, maybe that at least shut the mouth of the dirt inside the club.

It has to be one or two of the faceless men on the board.... I hope the review brings in a need to have a signed confidentiality clause resulting in immediate termination if breached.
 
“No, I’ll be at the Tigers - I’ll be at the Tigers,” Utoikamanu repeated. “I want to stay there, that’s where I want to be, yeah.
“This is the club that gave me the opportunity to play rugby league at the highest level, in the NRL.
“Back at my old club (Parramatta), I didn’t get the same opportunity.
Gotta love the subtle little dig at the Parra-sites.
 
Ask yourself the question is Benji’s general reputation and respect within the game of Rugby League second to none ?
Ask yourself the question is there any genuine reason why Benji won’t be a great coach ?
Ask yourself the question, do we have plenty of young players under 25 that at least show signs they can become very good NRL players ?
And that’s not to mention our young players under 21 in which we have quite a few that were in demand from other clubs but have chosen to stay with us.
The positives are endless.
Benji needs to be given his turn and his selection of players who he needs to complement his team , this season was not on Benji it was all Sheens , players like Benji and respect him , gibe him 2 years before we judge , he could be the difference we have been looking for
 
Benji needs to be given his turn and his selection of players who he needs to complement his team , this season was not on Benji it was all Sheens , players like Benji and respect him , gibe him 2 years before we judge , he could be the difference we have been looking for
Have you got proof Sheens ran everything?
There’s a fair amount of evidence Benji played a big role this season.
 
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