Which team will get the 18th Franchise

[TillLindemann]

(plz no,not another squirrel hoarding nuts thread)

I honestly don't mind starting one if you want

its the national sport n all,id guess south island Nz or SE Firehawks,qld,imo had the better profile $,future population,

On population PNG trounces them all: PNG is as big as New Zealand and Queensland combined, and quadruple the size of Western Australia. Yes they are poor, but we've always been a battlers' sport, not a poncey rich toffs sport.

 

[tig_prmz]

I honestly don't mind starting one if you want

On population PNG trounces them all: PNG is as big as New Zealand and Queensland combined, and quadruple the size of Western Australia. Yes they are poor, but we've always been a battlers' sport, not a poncey rich toffs sport.

That's a big deal though. The next team would have to hit the ground running and would need to have a better COE than anyone else. Would need a shinier, grander stadium and able to roll plenty of $$ into marketing/branding.

A bigger population will increase 'ratings' but not $$.

V'landys seems more of a $$ person than someone who wants to grow the game the right way. He just wants as much television and gambling money as possible.

I don't know what the right answer is either, but I just can't see a PNG team being sustainable unless it's bankrolled by someone bigger.

 

[balmain boy]

Hopefully no one.
Get Vladys out of the NRL ASAP, let the dust settle and then look at options.
There aren't enough good players to cater for another team. All Vlandys think about is money and power. There's more to footy than that. Like the fans, he just doesn't care about fans whatsoever.

 

[supercoach]

It’s going to bring back the days of silly money we had during the super league war. At present we have enough talent for a high quality ten team comp. 18 team comp will have a massive inflationary effect on the game and will bring the standard further down. Any remotely good player will be in for a big pay rise.

Just can not see how expansion is good for the game, but I thought this year was a pretty average year and the NRL had a bumper year as far as rating go. Time will tell

 

[Kelce68]

Sunshine Coast is a massively expanding area I think could be a good option

I think the Dolphins really missed the chance to capture the whole northside of Brisbane and up to the sunny coast when they opted out of a geographical name.

 

[Mystery]

Perth Bears
with 2 or 3 games at North Sydney oval each year one being manly

This is the correct answer

 

[Mystery]

I just don’t see how the PNG team works, if it’s based out of cairns it would be a big strain on players travelling all the time. If it’s based in PNG they will not attract any other talent.

Government funding is a real thing though. DFAT have been pulling the strings For the Government funded Fijian Silktails in Ron Massey Cup. Gov see it as the way to limit China’s influence in the pacific islands by tapping into our similar cultural interests

 

[gallagher]

I honestly don't mind starting one if you want

On population PNG trounces them all: PNG is as big as New Zealand and Queensland combined, and quadruple the size of Western Australia. Yes they are poor, but we've always been a battlers' sport, not a poncey rich toffs sport.

Your counting all of PNG though. Port Moresby is about 450k and unacessable for most of the citizens from the rest of the country.

 

[Halbrowne61]

Your probably right but its a bad idea, Jumping on a plane every week.

But it’s only a relatively short flight, about 1.5 hours, so not a huge problem.

 

[gallagher]

But it’s only a relatively short flight, about 1.5 hours, so not a huge problem.

Two flights most weeks would get tiresome I'd imagine no matter how long the flight is.

 

[TillLindemann]

That's a big deal though. The next team would have to hit the ground running and would need to have a better COE than anyone else. Would need a shinier, grander stadium and able to roll plenty of $$ into marketing/branding.

A bigger population will increase 'ratings' but not $$.

V'landys seems more of a $$ person than someone who wants to grow the game the right way. He just wants as much television and gambling money as possible.

I don't know what the right answer is either, but I just can't see a PNG team being sustainable unless it's bankrolled by someone bigger.

But I guess the reason both governments are so keen on it, is they think an NRL team would be a springboard to growth of the economy. At the moment nobody thinks of PNG as being a holiday destination in the way they might think of Bali or Fiji, it doesn't even enter people's heads, but there's no reason it couldn't be. If you get millions more eyeballs on the country through footy, this becomes fairly easy, and that then encourages other investment and the whole thing snowballs (in the best case scenario).

 

[TillLindemann]

Your counting all of PNG though. Port Moresby is about 450k and unacessable for most of the citizens from the rest of the country.

Fair point but people in remote areas can get behind the club without physically travelling to the games. And the stadium will still be a sell out every match that's played there, 100% guaranteed. You can't say the same for Perth, Wellington, North Sydney, Central/Sunshine Coast.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

Hopefully no one.
Get Vladys out of the NRL ASAP, let the dust settle and then look at options.
There aren't enough good players to cater for another team. All Vlandys think about is money and power. There's more to footy than that. Like the fans, he just doesn't care about fans whatsoever.

Yes and no. Remember Frank Hyde complaining back around 1980 12 teams was too many.......not enough good players.

90s football was good with 20 teams.

Open, clean everyone behind the ball.

It's the rule changes which are stuffing the game.

 

[BirchgroveTigers]

Personally keen for PNG though appreciate everyone's trepidation. To work though I think they would need a good three years notice before entering the NR: to get their domestic set up properly organised so they have a chance of actually being competitive.

Something like the following I think you'd need...
Year 1 = set up a u21 team in QLD comp
Year 2 = add a third tier team in QLD comp
Year 3 = move the third tier team up to 2nd tier to join PNG Hunters (so they have two teams in the one comp for a single season)
Year 4 = move PNG Hunters from QLD Cup up to NRL, leaving the other team in QLD as their reserve grade side

Going straight from a single QLD cup team to an NRL side is a recipe for a disaster IMO as they'll struggle to attract non-PNG based players and likely lose every game by 50. At least with the above they'll have a few seasons worth of u21 players filtering through their domestic set up and 60 odd players with QLD cup experience to try and piece together a first grade squad.

 

[weststigers]

Hopefully no one.
Get Vladys out of the NRL ASAP, let the dust settle and then look at options.
There aren't enough good players to cater for another team. All Vlandys think about is money and power. There's more to footy than that. Like the fans, he just doesn't care about fans whatsoever.

I would agree with you, but PNG has loads of juniors that just get wasted.

Going to Perth, QLD, NZ just dilutes the talent pool.

PNG would grow the junior base for the NRL as a whole in 5-10 years.

 

[weststigers]

Personally keen for PNG though appreciate everyone's trepidation. To work though I think they would need a good three years notice before entering the NR: to get their domestic set up properly organised so they have a chance of actually being competitive.

Something like the following I think you'd need...
Year 1 = set up a u21 team in QLD comp
Year 2 = add a third tier team in QLD comp
Year 3 = move the third tier team up to 2nd tier to join PNG Hunters (so they have two teams in the one comp for a single season)
Year 4 = move PNG Hunters from QLD Cup up to NRL, leaving the other team in QLD as their reserve grade side

Going straight from a single QLD cup team to an NRL side is a recipe for a disaster IMO as they'll struggle to attract non-PNG based players and likely lose every game by 50. At least with the above they'll have a few seasons worth of u21 players filtering through their domestic set up and 60 odd players with QLD cup experience to try and piece together a first grade squad.

Just a question...why are you moving PNG to QLD?

Can't they play out of PNG?

 

[Red88_Tiger]

I honestly don't mind starting one if you want

On population PNG trounces them all: PNG is as big as New Zealand and Queensland combined, and quadruple the size of Western Australia. Yes they are poor, but we've always been a battlers' sport, not a poncey rich toffs sport.

Minimal $ would be fine as long as the players are on board can’t see that happening though
Has to be financially viable without government bonuses or it would fall in a heap imo

 

[crazycat]

Second team in NZ and a WA team make sense. Maybe a Pacifika side too.

Don’t care if they send us packing if nothing significant comes out of this review. WA Tigers.

Honestly, I could deal with a PNG Tigers.

It would work and our team has had a bit of a connection.

WA Tigers, Nah. If the NRL gets that bad I am changing sports.

 

[The Fresh Oil]

Two flights most weeks would get tiresome I'd imagine no matter how long the flight is.

Think of the merch though.

#headhunters

 

[crazycat]

That's a big deal though. The next team would have to hit the ground running and would need to have a better COE than anyone else. Would need a shinier, grander stadium and able to roll plenty of $$ into marketing/branding.

A bigger population will increase 'ratings' but not $$.

V'landys seems more of a $$ person than someone who wants to grow the game the right way. He just wants as much television and gambling money as possible.

I don't know what the right answer is either, but I just can't see a PNG team being sustainable unless it's bankrolled by someone bigger.

Cmon were literally talking about bringing a "play for Meat pie and Coke" team.