Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Kelce68]

Reposting this from a couple of months ago ...

Found this on the Raiders forum ( https://thegh.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=35804 ) re salary cap for 2024+.

Important points for us:
- Development player contracts to be replaced by “Supplementary list”. $650,000 cap for at least four, maximum six players, can play from Round 1.
- Training contracts (train and trial). To rise to $1200 in 2024, $3,000 bonus for any NRL game, can only play NRL from Round 11.
- Clubs can promote players aged 17 to top 30 squads but can’t play until age 18.

Level of the cap
2023: $11.05m
2024: $11.25m
2025: $11.4m
2026: $11.55m
2027: $11.7m

Minimum $120,000 including Super in 2023, $130,000 in 2024 rising incrementally to $145,000 in 2027.

Each club can offer $100,000 on motor vehicle allowance (up to five, valued at $20,000) and has a $300,000 veteran/developed player allowance. A veteran is valued at 10 percent of salary cap value after nine years at one club and 5 percent after 10 years. A developed player is 10 percent of salary cap value if contracted for two or more years before their top 30 contract. I guess that’s subject to the $300,000 cap.

Clubs must spend 97.5 per cent of their cap each year from 2004, rising from the current 95 per cent. (That’s bad.)

Developed players (juniors) cannot be signed before Round 6 of a player’s final contract year. A developed player is a player who has been contracted for at least two years in junior grades and has played less than six NRL or State Cup matches. This is to help development clubs retain players and give them more time to assess players.

Clubs must have 24 top 30 players by 5pm November 1. By Monday of Round 1 they must have 28 players in the top 30. 30 by 30 June (no mid season transfers after that).

Development player contracts replaced by “Supplementary list”. $650,000 cap for at least four, maximum six players, paid $80,000, can play from Round 1. Bonus of $3,000 for any NRL game.

Training contracts (train and trial). To rise to $1200 in 2024, $3,000 bonus for any NRL game, can only play NRL from Round 11 (ie after Round 10).

Clubs can promote players aged 17 to top 30 squads but can’t play until age 18.

Top 30 players can seek a release from their contract if dropped below State Cup level.

Relocation allowances outside the cap, eg 28 days temporary accommodation, one way travel for player and spouse, children, one month storage costs, removalists.

Milestone games. Debut, 100th, 200th, 300th, 400th and final games for players who’ve played 100 games and one full season at a club. Transport and accommodation for two family members, 10 tickets, the match worn jersey.

Any games. Six tickets for players in any game day top 18 player, two for other top 30 players.

It's worth pinning this post somewhere BWG, because this information is nowhere near as accessible as it should be.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

No one interested in Waqa Blake? Olam must be better.

 

[tigerman 0]

The three P's.

Position - he won't play fullback
Placement - concord isn't attractive
Price - we won't pay overs

Concord the place isn’t attractive?
Id rather live in Sydney than St.Helens

Or the club isn’t attractive?
Id rather play NRL than SL

 

[phil1986]

I posted yesterday, incorrectly, that I couldn't wait until today for the announcement that we had signed 5 or 6 representative players.

@phil1986 you are 100% correct and the club will not be able to announce these signings for another 10 days.

Sorry about that Chief.

Just got chiefed 😂.

At least i wasn’t champed.

 

[tony soprano]

View attachment 7509
Anyone heard about this

Warren should stop posting

 

[Tiger_Yoshi]

No one interested in Waqa Blake? Olam must be better.

Neither from me

 

[Tiger_Yoshi]

WT have offered Tupou a 2 year extension...his decision pending his return from England

 

[Leck]

Concord the place isn’t attractive?
Id rather live in Sydney than St.Helens

Or the club isn’t attractive?
Id rather play NRL than SL

You answered your own question. Our club isn't attractive, but yes Sydney is. It just depends on where you live in Sydney and who you work for.

 

[Demps]

WT have offered Tupou a 2 year extension...his decision pending his return from England

🔥🔥

 

[Lestronge]

How ridiculous. Sheens wasn't even going to be with the WT's from 2025.

This stinks like McDonnell , Mole bullshit to me . How does the family even know that they’re not better off with Benji . None of us do . You might think that was bullshit the way sheens was let go (it wasn’t ) , but only a fool would throw the baby out with the bath water re 2024 and beyond . What happens if he signs with the panthers as per this story and Luai resigns for 3 years . Now Galvins screwed until 2028, making him 22. The smart play is to ride out 24 and re-assess at around June next year .
This screams undermining from the eels , sea eagles , panthers etc.
There’s blood in the water at the moment . So the sharks are circling . We just have to be smart how we hold them off .
I’m looking at you Fulton . Put your ego in the holster for a bit .

 

[Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan]

With the Scott Fulton factor & new Jersey Flegg coach Leon Latulipe coming from coaching Manly JF last season, I would not be surprised if we have signed Manly JF fullback Lehi Hopoate who is still eligible for Flegg. Has come up through the grades with the Fainu brothers and probably in the top 3-4 players in their Flegg team last season.

A Hopoate and a Fainu in the same team. What could go wrong?

 

[AdelaideTiger]

WT have offered Tupou a 2 year extension...his decision pending his return from England

Why did they wait until Nov 1 to do this?

 

[tony soprano]

This stinks like McDonnell , Mole bullshit to me . How does the family even know that they’re not better off with Benji . None of us do . You might think that was bullshit the way sheens was let go (it wasn’t ) , but only a fool would throw the baby out with the bath water re 2024 and beyond . What happens if he signs with the panthers as per this story and Luai resigns for 3 years . Now Galvins screwed until 2028, making him 22. The smart play is to ride out 24 and re-assess at around June next year .
This screams undermining from the eels , sea eagles , panthers etc.
There’s blood in the water at the moment . So the sharks are circling . We just have to be smart how we hold them off .
I’m looking at you Fulton . Put your ego in the holster for a bit .

We need Galvin to change player managers.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

Why did they wait until Nov 1 to do this?

I doubt they did. Probably just his manager telling the journo today that he has this offer from the WT but will look at others.

 

[teddy23]

WT have offered Tupou a 2 year extension...his decision pending his return from England

Hopefully we can secure that deal - he showed some really really good signs at points throughout the year and he’s still extremely raw converting from Rugby playing the way he did at the age of 21.

He’s also 191cms and still growing into his body. I believe he’ll be a massive threat in the league one day if I’m being completely honest.

 

[Newtown]

Concord the place isn’t attractive?
Id rather live in Sydney than St.Helens

Or the club isn’t attractive?
Id rather play NRL than SL

I think he wants to live in Rose Bay,

 

[bptiger 0]

How can anyone actually say stuff like this and keep a straight face . It might be true , but 1 player has been playing at a high level in nrl the other in SL , and the occasional test .
So many backs from England have come here , and outside of Widdop who came when he was 14 , so was basically developed here , and Herbie Farnsworth (exactly the same story) , not one player has done anything here since Elery Hanley .
If they were developed in England there’s more chance he will bust than there is her will something .
I could list 10 backs who have tried thier luck to not just not be a star here , but most of the time , then end up on the wing for Newtown or norths .

How can anyone actually say stuff like this and keep a straight face . It might be true , but 1 player has been playing at a high level in nrl the other in SL , and the occasional test .
So many backs from England have come here , and outside of Widdop who came when he was 14 , so was basically developed here , and Herbie Farnsworth (exactly the same story) , not one player has done anything here since Elery Hanley .
If they were developed in England there’s more chance he will bust than there is her will something .
I could list 10 backs who have tried thier luck to not just not be a star here , but most of the time , then end up on the wing for Newtown or norths .

How can anyone actually say stuff like this and keep a straight face . It might be true , but 1 player has been playing at a high level in nrl the other in SL , and the occasional test .
So many backs from England have come here , and outside of Widdop who came when he was 14 , so was basically developed here , and Herbie Farnsworth (exactly the same story) , not one player has done anything here since Elery Hanley .
If they were developed in England there’s more chance he will bust than there is her will something .
I could list 10 backs who have tried thier luck to not just not be a star here , but most of the time , then end up on the wing for Newtown or norths .

Gee I remember a guy named Schofield , who was a pretty good player
Morgan Smithies has signed with Canberra apparently...

https://www.wigantoday.net/sport/rugby-league/morgan-smithies-confirmed-departure-for-nrl-move-i-will-always-be-a-wigan-warrior-4391421

I thought we were chasing him , oh well another that slipped pass

 

[Vicious]

WT have offered Tupou a 2 year extension...his decision pending his return from England

I like him as a player and hole he re-signs with us.
The good news is he didn’t do anything against England to make other clubs want to be overly keen to sign him, so the less rival interest the better is is for our chances of keeping him.

 

[Vicious]

I’d be making re-signing Galvin, Large and Makasini to long term deals a priority over any potential established big money NRL recruits.
I know it’s a massive gamble pinning our hopes on unproven kids, but some of our current crop such as those 3 look near certain they will graduate to become NRL stars and it would be a disaster if they become stars wearing opposition colours.
Get them all signed with Wests Tigers long term and don’t sign ageing co-stars such as Luai who will only stand in their way.
More versatile stars such as Joey Manu or Jack Welsby would be better fits.

 

[Kelce68]

I’d be making re-signing Galvin, Large and Makasini to long term deals a priority over any potential established big money NRL recruits.
I know it’s a massive gamble pinning our hopes on unproven kids, but some of our current crop such as those 3 look near certain they will graduate to become NRL stars and it would be a disaster if they become stars wearing opposition colours.
Get them all signed with Wests Tigers long term and don’t sign ageing co-stars such as Luai who will only stand in their way.
More versatile stars such as Joey Manu or Jack Welsby would be better fits.

I see your point and I don't disagree for the most part; but Luai is 26.

He could still have 6-8 years left. So I wouldn't be so quick to put him in the ageing category for a while.