Charlie Staines #262

Telltails said:
Sheens was forced into a role that he was not brought back to the club for, on the back of Pascoe and Lee H's failure to attract another coach to the club after sacking the one they extended the year before.
He should have never been put in that position. Now Benji finds himself in the same predicament and possibly with a recruitment manager that he doesnt see eye to eye with. If he fails as plenty expect him to - this is all on them. How many payouts are the board prepared to tolerate before there is some accountability - they should be sacked on the basis of that alone.
Every failure that has occurred at the club is on the back of decisions made by the blokes in charge - and yet they are still given the power to make them - hopefully not for much longer.
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Sheens wasn’t forced into anything.
Can’t understand why you and some others would even think this.
 
cktiger said:
Sheens wasn’t forced into anything.
Can’t understand why you and some others would even think this.
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He was not brought back to coach and took the role because they couldn't attract the coach/es they wanted, and hence try to sell the three year plan.
If they wanted him as coach,
and if he wanted to be coach - they would have appoointed him as soon as they sacked Maguire
 
Telltails said:
He was not brought back to coach
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That’s true, he wasn’t. But he was put into a role that oversaw the coach and pretty much had authority over him, and what do you know, he sacked him. And it wasn’t like there were so many great replacement options out there, Sheens had to take on the role himself. He had no choice.
 
Tom Shines said:
I went to Forbes once … never saw a Ferrari ..

He has just turned 23 … he still has some upside .. we will know one way or the other in the next 2 years …

I have a doubt that he might be injury prone.. but they gotta roll the dice with him ..

Have to wait for the salary numbers … but Zorba saying it’s an overpay means nothing to me at this stage.. he is a bitter flog
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What makes you say that? A perforated bowel is very unlucky/ rare in the game of footy.
 
GNR4LIFE said:
That’s true, he wasn’t. But he was put into a role that oversaw the coach and pretty much had authority over him, and what do you know, he sacked him. And it wasn’t like there were so many great replacement options out there, Sheens had to take on the role himself. He had no choice.
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You have a choice to stop making poor takes
though. Haha try not be so negative I beg you
 
GNR4LIFE said:
That’s true, he wasn’t. But he was put into a role that oversaw the coach and pretty much had authority over him, and what do you know, he sacked him. And it wasn’t like there were so many great replacement options out there, Sheens had to take on the role himself. He had no choice.
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There would have been no sacking of the coach without the backing of the board - Maguire was walking the tight rope before Sheens was appointed. Well documented who they aggressively pursued and when that failed there was squat.
Benji too inexperienced to take on the role so the mentor/ coach three year plan created to prepare him for the role and take the heat off him - it had to be Sheens.
 
Telltails said:
There would have been no sacking of the coach without the backing of the board - Maguire was walking the tight rope before Sheens was appointed. Well documented who they aggressively pursued and when that failed there was squat.
Benji too inexperienced to take on the role so the mentor/ coach three year plan created to prepare him for the role and take the heat off him - it had to be Sheens.
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I think the absolute lack of progress that has been made since Madge shows his sacking can go down as one of the poorest decisions the club has made in recent memory. Really feel for the guy.
 
GNR4LIFE said:
I think the absolute lack of progress that has been made since Madge shows his sacking can go down as one of the poorest decisions the club has made in recent memory. Really feel for the guy.
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Out of the frying pan into the fire as the Blues Coach. More prestige comes with more expectation, more criticism. The WTs job will have at least prepared him somewhat if it goes to crap.
 
GNR4LIFE said:
GNR4LIFE said:
Is it untrue? And what’s negative about that?
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I believe it is untrue. The board didn't sack Madge until Sheens gave his approval. Sheens in his position was as at fault for the decision to sack a coach without a replacement as anyone.
I have no doubt there were other options. Flanagan for one was pretty much begging for the job during his commentary of games.
There are a stack of NRL assistants, reserve grade coaches, and ESL coaches that could have been approached. Instead they went all in on Ciraldo, got knocked back and then backed some stupid Sheens plan.
 
Telltails said:
He was not brought back to coach and took the role because they couldn't attract the coach/es they wanted, and hence try to sell the three year plan.
If they wanted him as coach,
and if he wanted to be coach - they would have appoointed him as soon as they sacked Maguire
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Who knows what Sheens really wanted though?
You would think if you were punting the coach you'd have more than a few options to fill the job before 'graciously' offering to do it yourself.
There were still other candidates out there if we had kept looking.
 
The drama will continue as long as people click on the stories about confected drama.
Benji could say "Scott's a great recruitment guy and because of him we'll have a great 2024" and the headline would be "Benji wants Fulton gone in '25!"
As long as the Wests are a basketcase narrative makes money via clicks it will continue. The 90% bullshit stories will continue regardless.
 
cktiger said:
Who knows what Sheens really wanted though?
You would think if you were punting the coach you'd have more than a few options to fill the job before 'graciously' offering to do it yourself.
There were still other candidates out there if we had kept looking.
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As soon as Benji' s name 'came into the mix no other FG coach was going to warm the seat for him let alone at a club camped at the bottom of the comp for the past 10 years in a constant rebuild. It had to be Sheens who wore the cap while Benji did his trade. And then Pascoe and Lee took upon themselves to make decisions about football matters.
 
Telltails said:
As soon as Benji' s name 'came into the mix no other FG coach was going to warm the seat for him let alone at a club camped at the bottom of the comp for the past 10 years in a constant rebuild. It had to be Sheens who wore the cap while Benji did his trade. And then Pascoe and Lee took upon themselves to make decisions about football matters.
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What trade did Benji do?
 
Telltails said:
As soon as Benji' s name 'came into the mix no other FG coach was going to warm the seat for him let alone at a club camped at the bottom of the comp for the past 10 years in a constant rebuild. It had to be Sheens who wore the cap while Benji did his trade. And then Pascoe and Lee took upon themselves to make decisions about football matters.
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True. But why was Benji into the mix in the first place instead of looking into more qualified options?
 
cktiger said:
Who knows what Sheens really wanted though?
You would think if you were punting the coach you'd have more than a few options to fill the job before 'graciously' offering to do it yourself.
There were still other candidates out there if we had kept looking.
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Rightly or wrongly, I formed the opinion from listening to Sheens. The CEO wanted Madge gone. Sheens’ appointment as head of footy was introduced badly. ‘Maguire can get advice from Sheens too if he wants.’ The CEO and board tried to sack Madge well before Sheens was signed. We know what happened next. The CEO tells Sheens to sack Madge.
Doesnt take too long before Sheens is now on the bad side of the CEO, so hence the same procedure, Fulton is secretly parachuted in in a clandestine operation 😂
Watch your back Benji. 😂
Since we sacked Madge we have a much better team, but I think that would have happened anyway.
I wonder if any of these “robust conversations” Lee talks about have anything to do with winning? I know we’ve won 5 games post Madge, but we’ve been in 36. 😤
 
gregjm87 said:
True. But why was Benji into the mix in the first place instead of looking into more qualified options?
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They just sacked a premiership winning coach that they extended the year before to chase a rookie coach that they offered a five year deal to and ended up witb egg on their faces when he at that point preferred to stay as an assistant at Penrith. As a club WTs had a developed a reputatuon as a coach killer - don't think there options were great. Same old arguement about why they don't recruit quality players.
Benji puts his hand up -three year plan - DNA 2005 good news story.
 
The club has delegated decisions re coaching and recruitment in the main to Sheens while he was GM of football.

He should've stayed GM.

In the end the club and Sheens could not ignore the vibes from senior players and agents/prospective recruits that Benji was preferred.
 
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