Cricket Season Thread

Stevec said:
So much was great Richie and Tony's pitch report using car keys
Lillee ,Thommo, Pascoe and remember we brought in a spinner that no one had heard of and the press call him "Peter Who " Peter Taylor I think - he was good ,
Yes I got very excited when Bevan hit a 4 off the last ball at SCG to beat Windies .
It just seems like this Summer has very few international cricket days compared to the past .
Cant complain too much the recent ODI world cup in India was great watching
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They have substituted international ODIs with T20 saturation. It’s the way of the times. I’ve decided to embrace it, I’m thinking about buying a sixers jersey for Wednesday night, I hate wearing pink/red, but hey if you can’t beat em 🤷‍♂️.
Also I was thinking about the pitches this year for the tests being slightly favouring the bowlers, I like it, it means a result and when a bloke scores a ton it means something.
 
Buttface said:
Agree mostly except for one thing “Australia are good, but not that good.”
Test Champs and have a habit now of winning or at least not losing from anywhere in both test and ODI formats. Yes we are that good, we just don’t have the generational players, but a team of great ones. All bowlers now have 250 test wickets.
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I mirror your introductory comments and say I agree mostly with you except for one thing “Yes we are that good”.

It probably boils down to semantics but, for me, “that good” would refer to a team that not only wins consistently at home (which we do) but is also good enough to win test series in England and India, where conditions are so different.

We last won a series in England in 2001 and in India in 2004.

This current Australian team has drawn the last two series played in England and lost the last 4 series against India, two of which were played in Australia – although to be fair, Smith and Warner were suspended for the 2018-19 series, but the Australian bowling line up was the same.

In my opinion, compared to the great Waugh/Ponting teams for the late 1990s and early naughties, we are good, but not that good.
 
fibrodreaming said:
I mirror your introductory comments and say I agree mostly with you except for one thing “Yes we are that good”.

It probably boils down to semantics but, for me, “that good” would refer to a team that not only wins consistently at home (which we do) but is also good enough to win test series in England and India, where conditions are so different.

We last won a series in England in 2001 and in India in 2004.

This current Australian team has drawn the last two series played in England and lost the last 4 series against India, two of which were played in Australia – although to be fair, Smith and Warner were suspended for the 2018-19 series, but the Australian bowling line up was the same.

In my opinion, compared to the great Waugh/Ponting teams for the late 1990s and early naughties, we are good, but not that good.
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They are carried a lot of the time by the captain. That’s how good he is.
 
fibrodreaming said:
I mirror your introductory comments and say I agree mostly with you except for one thing “Yes we are that good”.

It probably boils down to semantics but, for me, “that good” would refer to a team that not only wins consistently at home (which we do) but is also good enough to win test series in England and India, where conditions are so different.

We last won a series in England in 2001 and in India in 2004.

This current Australian team has drawn the last two series played in England and lost the last 4 series against India, two of which were played in Australia – although to be fair, Smith and Warner were suspended for the 2018-19 series, but the Australian bowling line up was the same.

In my opinion, compared to the great Waugh/Ponting teams for the late 1990s and early naughties, we are good, but not that good.
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Agree both the Waugh team and Ponting team tie at 18 consecutive wins each and it would be hard to match that but I will say that both India and England were generally much weaker sides during the Waugh and Ponting eras
 
Stevec said:
Agree both the Waugh team and Ponting team tie at 18 consecutive wins each and it would be hard to match that but I will say that both India and England were generally much weaker sides during the Waugh and Ponting eras
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Agree with your comment about England, but India's batting line up was very good: Sehwag, Dravid, Tendulkar, Laxman and Ganguly.

I'd say that is a better batting line up than today; however, their current bowling line up is outstanding.
 
fibrodreaming said:
Agree with your comment about England, but India's batting line up was very good: Sehwag, Dravid, Tendulkar, Laxman and Ganguly.

I'd say that is a better batting line up than today; however, their current bowling line up is outstanding.
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I think it was in terms of skills, but not the mental toughness. Since Dhoni/Kohli era, there is a lot more belief in the Indian team. Also they didn't have the ability to play a good innings overseas.
 
fibrodreaming said:
Agree with your comment about England, but India's batting line up was very good: Sehwag, Dravid, Tendulkar, Laxman and Ganguly.

I'd say that is a better batting line up than today; however, their current bowling line up is outstanding.
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OMG, that name still makes me shudder. I watched that test with a mate and I said do not follow on and he laughed at me and we both now share the same nightmare.
 
fibrodreaming said:
I mirror your introductory comments and say I agree mostly with you except for one thing “Yes we are that good”.

It probably boils down to semantics but, for me, “that good” would refer to a team that not only wins consistently at home (which we do) but is also good enough to win test series in England and India, where conditions are so different.

We last won a series in England in 2001 and in India in 2004.

This current Australian team has drawn the last two series played in England and lost the last 4 series against India, two of which were played in Australia – although to be fair, Smith and Warner were suspended for the 2018-19 series, but the Australian bowling line up was the same.

In my opinion, compared to the great Waugh/Ponting teams for the late 1990s and early naughties, we are good, but not that good.
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You will find that I am usually very bias and loyal towards our current team in what ever era, Oz coloured glasses.
Yes those teams were unbelievably great, and their record outweighs this current team. But I am really enjoying the games this team is putting out, they are out performing my expectations, they are still winning when half the team looks out of form most of the time. But someone stands up, and I know most will say Pat is carrying this team, and he is going great, but he can’t do it alone and he hasn’t. They are sharing the load carrying players that are not in great touch until they come good when the team needs them. I just think they are a great Team, and that is why, (see my first sentence), this team is still that good. 😁. I’ve still got my Oz coloured glasses on, haven’t I?
 
Buttface said:
OMG, that name still makes me shudder. I watched that test with a mate and I said do not follow on and he laughed at me and we both now share the same nightmare.
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Yes I was in India on business at the time and was hard to believe
We enforced the follow on with a massive lead and that guy VVS Laxman got a huge 2nd innings score .This made us afraid to ever enforce a follow on again
I should point out that a certain Indian umpire fired about 6 of our guys out in the 2nd innings with LBW shouts half of which were very dubious and No DRS in India then
 
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