OFFICIAL Lachlan Galvin #277 *Released* Career Discussion.

[king_sirro]

Yes, those are the quotes. Though, putting them in all caps certainly adds a greater degree of emphasis on the nature of those words than when I originally posted it. The certainty of my wording was not the focus of the post.

I then responded with a follow up comment, saying there is a heavy implication through all posts that people are providing their opinions, particularly on future situations, it's kinda built into the concept of speculating (as I've already mentioned).

So.... Like I said earlier, your major gripe here essentially boils down to the fact that I didn't preference each statement with the phrase 'in my opinion'.

You could literally place 'in my opinion' at the start or end of all those quotes you mentioned and it would read identically.

Curiously, I generally make a point of weaving that phrase into my posts for this very reason. It's rather comical that one of the few times I neglect to, someone is bothered to fake issue with this non-consequential component of the post I made, especially considering that wasn't key point I was making.

If you're consistent, I would expect this same issue to be posted henceforth with every, single post that doesn't preface a post with 'in my opinion'.

For your records, all my posts that involve any form of speculative commentary about future selections or signings are my opinion, apparently some people need that clarification.

I only chimed in because it appears that in this thread it was ongoing for no real apparent reason. You took it quite personally against you even though i didnt even have you in mind, and turns out you only have one post like it. It really wasn't as much about you as you have taken. Maybe that highlights how you did get it wrong on this occasion.

 

[king_sirro]

KS, you've really misread this entire kafuffle...

If someone believes strongly that something will not happen, on whatever basis, it is not arrogant to say so.

No matter how much you might believe the opposite.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with somebody stating their position in no uncertain terms. This is not the definition of arrogant and you're barking at shadows.

Reasonable way to put it. I'll take that on board

 

[Kelce68]

Reasonable way to put it. I'll take that on board

Appreciate your approach during the disagreement too.

Measured and respectful. Kudos mate.

 

[Kelce68]

I only chimed in because it appears that in this thread it was ongoing for no real apparent reason. You took it quite personally against you even though i didnt even have you in mind, and turns out you only have one post like it. It really wasn't as much about you as you have taken. Maybe that highlights how you did get it wrong on this occasion.

Yeh, I took an interest as it seemed like a mild swipe.

Happy to move on now.

 

[Vicious]

Who is your reliable informant, Vicious?

That will not be revealed.

 

[Vicious]

I get what you’re saying but think you are looking far too much into Benji’s words. Remember we have Sezar, Bud, Fainu, AD as well. Benji isn’t intentionally talking about them. So based on just taking the comments they are no chance which we all know isn’t the case. I think his words are used to keep everyone on point and to take pressure off the halves in general to start the year.

Rua impressed in the trials and wasn’t close to NRL ready. The Trials are trials, teams on both side don’t go full in, never have. I never look too much into trial form ever as it very rarely translates to the NRL season. It’s great for kids to impress and get on the radar but that’s it.

If Benji is using the trials to lock in key positions we are stuffed. Benji surely would know the spine he intends to start the season already by now.

Time will tell if you’re right. I think if he starts the year it will only be because we have an injury/suspension to 2 of Fainu, Bud & Sezer. Smokey off the bench maybe as utility value could be of interest but then TDS and others miss out.

How has your contact mention him holding up defensively?

Ok MT you are just another one to add to the list of people who post on here who believe the trials will count for nothing and the players who are clear stand outs will not be rewarded with NRL selection.
The first part about that is they will either not play in the trials or get very limited minutes in the trials if they have not been training extremely well.
Let’s wait and see how it pans out.

 

[innsaneink]

Ok so we better off selecting the players who don’t go well in the trials.
I can see the sense in that.

You wanna play this childish game?
I never said that and you know it... The mark of someone with no comeback.
You've been around long enough to know how things usually work in jnr development... Chucking a kid in too soon can do irreparable damage... He may start, I'd be guessing long odds in that happening.
I'm surprised at your take on this topic and as snide mentioned it does seem like you've a personal vested interest... I was going to. Ask too. If. Yiur related. ... It's a very different opinion from you as we all get to know others way of thinking after discussing footy for 10 or 20 years albeit online

 

[Vicious]

Trials are about combinations. How players perform in pre season overall is generally the factor that decides the 17.

Exactly how it works and how it will work.
That argument is totally against what you have previously been arguing for.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Exactly how it works and how it will work.
That argument is totally against what you have previously been arguing for.

No, im saying it won’t come down to trial games specifically.

 

[twentyforty]

But did he really ever ? Remember times when his defensive position was outside the winger ?

Good point. During the 05 GF when Sheens wanted to close the game he sent Benji out to keep Pat Richard’s company 😂 and he brought the crowd to their feet.
In his defence of Walker he claimed he wasn’t getting paid to tackle, which begs the question…which players in our current team aren’t getting paid to tackle? If there are any that is?

 

[Tucker]

Not at all, just trying to educate some of you that doubt he’s in the picture to be selected to play NRL anytime soon and assure you he’s well in the equation, but it will ultimately come down to performance once the games commence.
It’s not pressure or expectation, just reality.

Mate most of the players this fella has played against so far have only recently started growing hair on their balls.
Soon he will be running into battle hardened men who are used to being hit by other battle hardened men. These players have grown into their bodies and made them dense and strong with solid muscle through years of hard graft.
It is right to be concerned with reports he is going to be thrown to the wolves at this stage of his career. The Raiders have some hardarse backrowers and they’ll be coming to kill him.

 

[Vicious]

You wanna play this childish game?
I never said that and you know it... The mark of someone with no comeback.
You've been around long enough to know how things usually work in jnr development... Chucking a kid in too soon can do irreparable damage... He may start I'd be guessing long odds that's hapoening
I'm surprised at your take in this topic and as snide mentioned it does seem like you've a personal vested interest... It's different for you as we all get to know others way of thinking after discussing footy for 10 or 20 years albeit online

I can assure you no vested interest, I’m simply telling you and a few others you are wrong on your stance of continuing to imply that our young or inexperienced players are next to no hope of playing NRL as of round 2, if not early in the season should they continue to impress at training and stand out in the trials.
I don’t know Benji personally, but I do know he’s not scared to take what many would consider as risks by selecting players who are impressing him, particularly in the effort areas.

 

[Kelce68]

Ok MT you are just another one to add to the list of people who post on here who believe the trials will count for nothing and the players who are clear stand outs will not be rewarded with NRL selection.
The first part about that is they will either not play in the trials or get very limited minutes in the trials if they have not been training extremely well.
Let’s wait and see how it pans out.

Now I know that's not how you've represented GNR and my responses...

Nothing that has been said alludes to the bolded above. You've exaggerated a counter point to your own to try and make your viewpoint seem more reasonable. This is a classic reducto ad absurdum fallacy. You arguing against this point, also then becomes a straw man as no one is arguing the point that you are arguing against here.

NOBODY has said they'll count for nothing. The general counterpoint has been-

'There are more factors to consider when selecting your halves to start the season than how well an 18 year old goes in 1 or 2 trials'.

Then, on that basis, there is a firm belief that Lachie will come into consideration later in the season, in spite of the Benji's public quotes on the matter.

If you're going to categorise posters onto a 'list', at least represent their position accurately.

 

[innsaneink]

I can assure you no vested interest, I’m simply telling you and a few others you are wrong on your stance of continuing to imply that our young or inexperienced players are next to no hope of playing NRL as of round 2, if not early in the season should they continue to impress at training and stand out in the trials.
I don’t know Benji personally, but I do know he’s not scared to take what many would consider as risks by selecting players who are impressing him, particularly in the effort areas.

Now it's _early in the season" where before you were talking our first game

Youre putting people in lists... Putting words on other people's mouths (mine)
I've said no one is next to no hope... I have argued why I think its not a good idea and isn't usually the done thing

Is Galvin still in a boot?
What was his injury?

 

[Vicious]

Now it's _early in the season" where before you were talking our first game

Youre putting people in lists... Putting words on other people's mouths (mine)
I've said no one is next to no hope... I have argued why I think its not a good idea and isn't usually the done thing

Is Galvin still in a boot?
What was his injury?

As far as I am aware he’s not in a moon boot and will be playing in our first trial match against the Warriors.
Maybe we should all wait and see how he and the others all go before making any further selection comments.

 

[weststigers]

I can assure you no vested interest, I’m simply telling you and a few others you are wrong on your stance of continuing to imply that our young or inexperienced players are next to no hope of playing NRL as of round 2, if not early in the season should they continue to impress at training and stand out in the trials.
I don’t know Benji personally, but I do know he’s not scared to take what many would consider as risks by selecting players who are impressing him, particularly in the effort areas.

If you don't know Benji personally, how do you know he is not scared to take risks?

It's very unlikely a kid that hasn't even played a game of NSW Cup against men will go straight into NRL. Why is that so controversial for you?

No one is saying he's not talented, but you don't want to wreck his body during his development.

 

[Tucker]

I would be of the opinion personally that any of our young guns who have impressed in the pre season and standout in the trials, will receive favour with the coaching staff and will have their ascension to the top grade fast tracked as long as they can prove consistency in the senior pathways teams this year.

 

[gazza86]

As far as I am aware he’s not in a moon boot and will be playing in our first trial match against the Warriors.
Maybe we should all wait and see how he and the others all go before making any further selection comments.

I know Parra are putting in 3 of their 18yr olds to play against Canberra in that trial game and am sure they haven't had much game time against men. Might be the new trend!!

 

[SeanT]

If you don't know Benji personally, how do you know he is not scared to take risks?

It's very unlikely a kid that hasn't even played a game of NSW Cup against men will go straight into NRL. Why is that so controversial for you?

No one is saying he's not talented, but you don't want to wreck his body during his development.

Yeah one mis tackle and his shoulder will be gone. Needs a dozen games in nsw plus a few nrl games at end of the year. Anther preseason amd who knows.

 

[Tucker]

I know Parra are putting in 3 of their 18yr olds to play against Canberra in that trial game and am sure they haven't had much game time against men. Might be the new trend!!

In a trial is fine. That’s what they are for.