Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Camel2281]

I think we need to develop TDS as a 9

You don't do that by playing him off the bench in 1sts getting 8-10 minutes a week. He's got to play 80mins a week in Flegg or Cup

 

[Wearyfan22]

You don't do that by playing him off the bench in 1sts getting 8-10 minutes a week. He's got to play 80mins a week in Flegg or Cup

Totally agree with this. I think it would be sensible to start the year with Simpkin at 14. Latu and TDS then to shoot out for 14 2nd half of the year. There's alot to be gained from Latu, TDS and Galvin forming some partnerships in lower grades.

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

You don't do that by playing him off the bench in 1sts getting 8-10 minutes a week. He's got to play 80mins a week in Flegg or Cup

But we would tell him "you are ONLY the cup player, you WILL NOT be even considered to play 10 minutes a game" and this will extend to how long: the whole season, 5 games, 10 games ??
The reason for Da Silva to look elsewhere, immediately!?

 

[AdelaideTiger]

But we would tell him "you are ONLY the cup player, you WILL NOT be even considered to play 10 minutes a game" and this will extend to how long: the whole season, 5 games, 10 games ??
The reason for Da Silva to look elsewhere, immediately!?

It's always a balancing act, but I'd say Api probably plays 3 Origin games this year (think Cook is past it and Robson is handy but Api is a better player) that's a minimum of 240 minutes of NRL up for grabs, probably more like 350-400min considering he wont play 80 mins when he backs up. Api is also likely to be playing more like 55-60 mins during the middle/latter part of the year when the body starts feeling a bit second hand. At that point 20-25 mins of super-sub footy would be as good if not far better than you're going to get anywhere else.

 

[Wearyfan22]

But we would tell him "you are ONLY the cup player, you WILL NOT be even considered to play 10 minutes a game" and this will extend to how long: the whole season, 5 games, 10 games ??
The reason for Da Silva to look elsewhere, immediately!?

Up to Benji to communicate a clear plan to him and the rationale. I think that will be one of Benjis strengths. I daresay Simpkin is still in the shop window so there is a clear pathway to firsts for him. But hey, if he ends up coming off the bench a few games into the season and playing 15-20 minutes a game I won't be too upset.

 

[Todd Packer]

Totally agree with this. I think it would be sensible to start the year with Simpkin at 14. Latu and TDS then to shoot out for 14 2nd half of the year. There's alot to be gained from Latu, TDS and Galvin forming some partnerships in lower grades.

It's never sensible to start Simpkin anywhere near a first grade squad.
He's Matt MciIlwrick lite.

 

[jadtiger]

It's never sensible to start Simpkin anywhere near a first grade squad.
He's Matt MciIlwrick lite.

I have never understood the fascination for Simpkin on here,to me he always suffered from white line fever and on the rare times he passed the ball it was awful

 

[Wearyfan22]

It's never sensible to start Simpkin anywhere near a first grade squad.
He's Matt MciIlwrick lite.

I agree he's not up to it as 1st string player. We are pretty thin on utilities though. Would you prefer Da Silva or Fainu in there from the start?

 

[Todd Packer]

I agree he's not up to it as 1st string player. We are pretty thin on utilities though. Would you prefer Da Silva or Fainu in there from the start?

Absolutely.
Let's not persevere trying to make an NRL player out of a Ron Massey Cup talent in Simpkin.
Both those guys are football players.

 

[Wearyfan22]

Absolutely.
Let's not persevere trying to make an NRL player out of a Ron Massey Cup talent in Simpkin.
Both those guys are football players.

Fair enough. They have huge potential and Simpkin has hit his ceiling. I guess the original point was that they might benefit from playing a together 60-80 minutes in reserves for a few rounds rather than 10-15 minutes in firsts. I think I'd prefer to see Fainu in there before TDS, if I was choosing, as he seems a little further along.

 

[magpies forever]

Fair enough. They have huge potential and Simpkin has hit his ceiling. I guess the original point was that they might benefit from playing a together 60-80 minutes in reserves for a few rounds rather than 10-15 minutes in firsts. I think I'd prefer to see Fainu in there before TDS, if I was choosing, as he seems a little further along.

Thats the big question everytime isnt it? All the fringe players from #14 upwards aside from the starting 13 in many ways are works in progress. Are they better playing more time in State Cup or is the taste and experience of NRL interchange better for their development. Each players different and differing coaching approaches needed. Wouldnt be hard to get it wrong sometimes I suspect. Hopefully in those instances I trust remedied very quickly.

Where I get concerned is some of the young 'up and comers' having written in their contracts promised slots in the top 30 squad in such and such year immaterial of their actual development and progress. Surely leads to frequent angst. Player management, who would want to be in the coaching staff eh?

 

[Wearyfan22]

Thats the big question everytime isnt it? All the fringe players from #14 upwards aside from the starting 13 in many ways are works in progress. Are they better playing more time in State Cup or is the taste and experience of NRL interchange better for their development. Each players different and differing coaching approaches needed. Wouldnt be hard to get it wrong sometimes I suspect. Hopefully in those instances I trust remedied very quickly.

Where I get concerned is some of the young 'up and comers' having written in their contracts promised slots in the top 30 squad in such and such year immaterial of their actual development and progress. Surely leads to frequent angst. Player management, who would want to be in the coaching staff eh?

Agree there is no hard and fast rule (except the actual age cut off rule) and it needs to be on a case by case basis. There is also the actual physical element that has to be considered. Are their bodies up to playing against proper first graders? No point playing TDS only for him to get injured and Simpkin play anyway. Coaches are the only people with that insight.

I think we were wedged a little bit I regards to the top 30 spots. We haven't exactly been a desirable place for players over the last few years so have had to over pay and over promise.

 

[balmain boy]

Thats the big question everytime isnt it? All the fringe players from #14 upwards aside from the starting 13 in many ways are works in progress. Are they better playing more time in State Cup or is the taste and experience of NRL interchange better for their development. Each players different and differing coaching approaches needed. Wouldnt be hard to get it wrong sometimes I suspect. Hopefully in those instances I trust remedied very quickly.

Where I get concerned is some of the young 'up and comers' having written in their contracts promised slots in the top 30 squad in such and such year immaterial of their actual development and progress. Surely leads to frequent angst. Player management, who would want to be in the coaching staff eh?

We used to hand out our top 30 spots to all development players, it was absurd. We've rightfully tightened things, but it's also something you have to do to secure elite juniors long term. You don't lock them into a 4 year train and trial contract!

 

[Glenji95]

Buzz didn’t query PVL of his opinion on the lack of negative Tigers stories?

Nah, as long as the Sharks don’t get mentioned, he won’t say anything.

 

[Glenji95]

Port Moresby Bears then?

Probably not, best chance I reckon for the Bears is Perth.

 

[Todd Packer]

Let's bring back Glebe too

 

[king_sirro]

Let's bring back Glebe too

No club has been shafted like the Bears were. To hang in there all these years keeping themselves viable is amazing and they deserve a return over anyone.

 

[tigerman 0]

No club has been shafted like the Bears were. To hang in there all these years keeping themselves viable is amazing and they deserve a return over anyone.

Was it partly their fault?
I was of the belief when Manly and Norths merged to make the Northern Eagles, if ever the joint venture was to fail, the licence would revert back to Manly.
The Norths side actually signed this.

Then not long after we were all shocked beyond belief that the joint venture failed. And Manly ended up with the license.

A bigger con job I can’t remember

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Bears should be back and playing out of North Sydney Oval. A travesty that that ground has been lost to the game.

 

[Glenji95]

Bears should be back and playing out of North Sydney Oval. A travesty that that ground has been lost to the game.

Apparently that is one of their clauses that they want. At least 2-4 games a year to be played at North Sydney Oval regardless where they are based.