Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Vicious said:
Do you realise Bennett doesn’t contribute to his teams attack, never has and never will.
He simply selects his spine players with enough IQ and attacking ability to do the basics right and allow the team to function as it should.
He also selects edges, namingly edge back row and centres that have the ability to be an attacking threat.
I’ve done this to death, but anyone who cannot see that a teams fullback is their most influential attacking player, obviously does not watch other NRL teams play.
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You do realise we are blooding a few kids atm who need guidance, I agree Bula in any other squad would be in reserves atm but that's just the boat we are in. If we are going to pay someone to be an attacking coach we can get someone who will help the squad improve
 
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BlackWhiteGold said:
Any good attack assistant coaches out there???

It seems the best in the business is the guy Broncos recruited from the UK Lee Briers.

Don't think Benji will bring anyone in that he doesn't know & trust so maybe Todd Payten or even Ben Hornby who Benji played under at Souths.
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No idea, but we just look impotent atm.
 
Glenji95 said:
Haven’t seen Turuva play Fullback in first grade so I can’t judge unless he gets that chance. I know he has in Cup but different grade altogether. As for the players you mentioned just because they are stuck doesn’t always mean they’ll go to a club like ours to play footy when some are happy being depth like Jonah Pezet, he’s fine being stuck behind Munster and Hughes. I know he’s injured himself at the moment but even he’s happy to be stuck behind them because he could be playing first grade elsewhere but chose to stay and be depth. Some players are ok with that I’m not saying they are because I don’t know but some are willing to stay where they are than come to us. Besides I think only 2 of them are off contract so you can’t even make a play for all of them.
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Played FB in an International for Fiji back before he'd even debuted....
Was about the best player on the park
 
I wasn’t hearing anything about our attacking coach when we whooped the Cowboys last year or when we came out with back to back wins. People need to have some damn patience, we have a new head coach who is clearly not happy with the current squad. I mean realistically besides forward pack we have the worst squad in the comp. We have a spine consisting of a 30 game fullback (who I believe is injured right now), a 18 year old 5/8, a reserve grade half and the GOAT Api. It shouldn’t fill you with much confidence, not to mention our outside backs are woeful. They single-handedly cost us games with their lack of ability.

So looking at the facts: 2-5 is easy bottom 3, our spine has potential and will be much better with Luai but currently a bottom four spine, the forward pack to me is a top 8 pack and our bench rotation is definitely one of the worst. We are less then a year in and you have less patience then Lee and Pascoe. I’ve said it before but we have got to have one of the dumbest fan bases as a whole, just hypocritical. Calling out Lee and Pascoe for their inability to stick to a plan but you are already throwing the toys out of the cot less than a year in. Give the team time to gel, we have players gone to injury and suspension so it hasn’t been easy especially in the backs department.

Don’t get me wrong I understand the frustrations but these things don’t just happen overnight and I’d honestly rather they don’t. We have all seen the teams that jump to the top but never seem to regain that glory, Cowboys did it and warriors are seemingly doing it. If we get to next year and we are having the same problems fair enough, but we have got to have some patience enough to stick to a plan, otherwise we are gonna continue the same cycle thats plagued us for the last decade.
 
tigermate said:
sullivan is a 6

we need a controlling half

remember Jacko -- the guy that everyone said i was wrong when we let go and that had no influence on the knights last year bc it was all Ponga? lol.

He made Ponga play well

All we need is a controlling half

and for those who say there is no such thing -- listen to one of the best Andrew Johns

YES - there is a difference who wears the 7 to the 6

they have to steer the team and kick to the corners -- easier said then done because they are hard to find.

Sezer started well but he's flailing.

If we had Jacko in this side we would be top 8.

Love him or hate him -- all we are missing is a proper #7.

Duno if luai is consistent enough to do that every game

all our attack revolves around Api, looking up, dummy right, dummy left, duck a tackle, do a pass, hope for the best.

Api needs a cleary or someone telling him what to do -- not the other way around.

until we get that we are going to have terrible attack bc no one knows what Api is going to do.

When is the last block play or simple backline shape we ran?
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Hastings is fat and slow lol…was never gonna be our solution
 
Vicious said:
Every other club strengthens up mid season, not us.
Schoupp doesn’t even get in Manly’s team when they are full strength, he walks into ours at the moment.
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Well we only got 1 spot left to fill I imagine some of the other clubs might have a couple. If I remember right all clubs need 28 spots filled by the 1st of March. We had 29 and the only reason we did was due to getting rid of Nofa.
 
Glenji95 said:
Well we only got 1 spot left to fill I imagine some of the other clubs might have a couple. If I remember right all clubs need 28 spots filled by the 1st of March. We had 29 and the only reason we did was due to getting rid of Nofa.
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If we are not smart enough tn find ways around it, then we just have to be happy losing every game as we don’t have enough players with the ability to change it.
 
Sullivan is the no1 target on the forum now Brooks has departed, but after watching the last two weeks he seems the only one capable of creating anything in attack. Yesterday he actually put on a couple of really good balls that sadly plodders latched onto. His kicking game was not great, but a kicking game is only as good as the chase and our chase was abysmal.

Not saying he is great, but he certainly offers more in attack than most of the team.
 
Vicious said:
If we are not smart enough tn find ways around it, then we just have to be happy losing every game as we don’t have enough players with the ability to change it.
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We can’t sign more than 30 unless we can offload some and even then you have to hope clubs come to the table.
 
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Glenji95 said:
We can’t sign more than 30 unless we can offload some and even then you have to hope clubs come to the table.
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Room to move within Development Contracts and Train & Trialists also.
Clubs also have option to pay out players contracts within their top 30 by mutual agreement.
Also the possibility of getting NRL permission to sign an injury replacement for Junior Tupou.
 
Vicious said:
Room to move within Development Contracts and Train & Trialists also.
Clubs also have option to pay out players contracts within their top 30 by mutual agreement.
Also the possibility of getting NRL permission to sign an injury replacement for Junior Tupou.
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And a lot of players won’t agree to get their contracts paid out unless they have no choice. We’d see a lot more players get freed up each year at every club if that was more likely to happen. And the NRL will not give us permission to sign an injury replacement for Tupou considering he’s able to come back this year.
 
twentyforty said:
An alternate view? All these teams are higher up the ladder than Tigers. I suppose that’s a coincidence?
We can all find fault in the players we’ve let go and are fitting in well at their new club, which is preferable to praising their efforts.
The one thing I’ve noticed is these players are highly motivated when they play us, much more so than when they wore a Tigers jersey.
They will score a double against us, while we struggled to get a lone try from their time here?
Disgruntled ex employees huh?
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Talau on multiple occasions threw the ball over the sideline in a two on one situation. That’s the shit you can’t do in first grade, even more so at a struggling club.

Dispute facts all you like, they’re still facts.
 
tigermate said:
sullivan is a 6

we need a controlling half

remember Jacko -- the guy that everyone said i was wrong when we let go and that had no influence on the knights last year bc it was all Ponga? lol.

He made Ponga play well

All we need is a controlling half

and for those who say there is no such thing -- listen to one of the best Andrew Johns

YES - there is a difference who wears the 7 to the 6

they have to steer the team and kick to the corners -- easier said then done because they are hard to find.

Sezer started well but he's flailing.

If we had Jacko in this side we would be top 8.

Love him or hate him -- all we are missing is a proper #7.

Duno if luai is consistent enough to do that every game

all our attack revolves around Api, looking up, dummy right, dummy left, duck a tackle, do a pass, hope for the best.

Api needs a cleary or someone telling him what to do -- not the other way around.

until we get that we are going to have terrible attack bc no one knows what Api is going to do.

When is the last block play or simple backline shape we ran?
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The same bloke who already helped us to a spoon?
 
supercoach said:
Sullivan is the no1 target on the forum now Brooks has departed, but after watching the last two weeks he seems the only one capable of creating anything in attack. Yesterday he actually put on a couple of really good balls that sadly plodders latched onto. His kicking game was not great, but a kicking game is only as good as the chase and our chase was abysmal.

Not saying he is great, but he certainly offers more in attack than most of the team.
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When we kick the ball 50-60m downfield even Usain Bolt would have trouble getting there.
They kick deep to get down the other end, but not to the corners and too far to contest.
 
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