Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Tom Shines said:
Be prepared to lose the brother(s) as well … package deal
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We can't lose his brothers too Samuela has been our best player. Latu is still going to be a prodigy and Sione played well and young as too.

It is absolutely stupid to think about ditching Latu.

You guys hate to hate. Blaming a player who is injured, out of position, young, and inexperienced. Its quite sad to be honest
 
Tom Shines said:
The hamstrings are a concern though … he has been hampered by that since he got here and that can be tough to shake… not a great injury to have at a young age …
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Had it well before he got here, Been a problem for the best part of a year at 2 different clubs.
Tom Shines said:
Be prepared to lose the brother(s) as well … package deal
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There's only one of them that losing wouldn't be ideal, And we don't even really know what he is yet
(Or if losing him could be a reality)
Sione has been here years away from the other 2(3)
 
batboy said:
Had it well before he got here, Been a problem for the best part of a y

There's only one of them that losing wouldn't be ideal, And we don't even really know what he is yet
(Or if losing him could be a reality)
Sione has been here years away from the other 2(3)
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Losing any of them is pure speculation at this point … I know their agent Moses will use any leverage he can though ..

Sione is in the best 17 at the club at the moment with Ice being moved on
 
InGalvinWeTrust said:
You guys hate to hate. Blaming a player who is injured, out of position, young, and inexperienced. Its quite sad to be honest
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You say he's young and being played out of position....
Where's he playing next year? Or the year after?
(Going off the username, You're thinking the same as most)

You can't cite him being played out of position, When that's likely his only option here.

the reality is, Fully fit - There's no spot for him here for the next few years.
And if we're paying anywhere near 500k for him at any time to play second fiddle in the halves
That's not good business.
 
batboy said:
You say he's young and being played out of position....
Where's he playing next year? Or the year after?
(Going off the username, You're thinking the same as most)

You can't cite him being played out of position, When that's likely his only option here.

the reality is, Fully fit - There's no spot for him here for the next few years.
And if we're paying anywhere near 500k for him at any time to play second fiddle in the halves
That's not good business.
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Galvin will probably sign elsewhere a week after they let Latu go…

Teddy and Paps all over again
 
Tom Shines said:
Losing any of them is pure speculation at this point … I know their agent Moses will use any leverage he can though ..

Sione is in the best 17 at the club at the moment with Ice being moved on
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Your best 17 maybe....
You say he's in the best 17 (At the moment) with Ice moving on, but Ice is still here - How's that work?

He's not in the best 5 middles at the club at the moment, And doubt he would be next year either
(Unless he all of a sudden displays ability he so far hasn't)
 
batboy said:
Your best 17 maybe....
You say he's in the best 17 (At the moment) with Ice moving on, but Ice is still here - How's that work?

He's not in the best 5 middles at the club at the moment, And doubt he would be next year either
(Unless he all of a sudden displays ability he so far hasn't)
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he is 18 man this week with Ice in the team? who else are you promoting into the Top 17 to take Ice’s spot?

Just cause Sione is a below average player doesn’t mean it can’t be reality
 
Tom Shines said:
Galvin will probably sign elsewhere a week after they let Latu go…

Teddy and Paps all over again
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So we'll let Latu go, Lachie will sign elsewhere....

And Latu will come good in NRL in 3-4 years time
But will be injury prone from thereon out?

I can live with that...
 
Tom Shines said:
he is 18 man this week with Ice in the team? who else are you promoting into the Topn16 to take Ice’s spot
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Ice is our starting back rower, So Probably another back back rower....

If you're talking about next year (When Ice isn't here) Ask me then....
But I'd bet the answer won't be Sione (Or any other middle Forward)
 
batboy said:
Ice is our starting back rower, So Probably another back back rower....

If you're talking about next year (When Ice isn't here) Ask me then....
But I'd bet the answer won't be Sione (Or any other middle Forward)
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Who ? Name your name ? You just said there were 5 better a moment ago

It will be the guy they have as 18th man this week
 
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InGalvinWeTrust said:
We can't lose his brothers too Samuela has been our best player. Latu is still going to be a prodigy and Sione played well and young as too.

It is absolutely stupid to think about ditching Latu.

You guys hate to hate. Blaming a player who is injured, out of position, young, and inexperienced. Its quite sad to be honest
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if latu wants to play in the halves and so does Galvin, they can't both be here in years to come now we have luai
 
Tom Shines said:
Who ? Name your name ? You just said there were 5 better a moment ago

It will be the guy they have as 18th man this week
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Klemmer, Utoikamanu, Pole, Twal, Sam Fainu, and Seyfarth are all better middle forwards in the Squad
than Sione Fainu (Atm) - That's 6

You might be a Sione fan (or his best mate)
But I don't know anyone, Who'd be looking to replace an edge backrower - With a middle forward
(who's not even as good a player as the other middle forwards in the Squad)

It's just maths...
Does he play wing should we get short there too?
 
batboy said:
Klemmer, Utoikamanu, Pole, Twal, Sam Fainu, and Seyfarth are all better middle forwards in the Squad
than Sione Fainu (Atm) - That's 6

You might be a Sione fan (or his best mate)
But I don't know anyone, Who'd be looking to replace an edge backrower - With a middle forward
(who's not as good a player as the other middle forwards in the Squad)

It's just maths...
Does he play wing should we get short there too?
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Aren’t they all in the 17 this week?

to replace a guy in the 17 … you need to bring in a guy currently outside the 17…

it’s just maths
 
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Tom Shines said:
Aren’t they all in the 17 this week?

to replace a guy in the 17 … you need to bring in a guy currently outside the 17…

it’s just maths
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What happens when Bateman is back?
Ice Out 'next year' Bateman in...
Still no top 17 spot 'on an edge' for a middle forward....

Next?

edit: I really don't know why you keep talking about replacing an International Back Rower,
With a reserve grade middle forward....

But if you could stop, It would be way more funner....
 
tigerbenji said:
We have Doueihi off contract saving us $600,000 also Ice which saves us $750,000 as he asked for the release, other players off contract are Simpkin, Kepaoa,we also save $350,000 on Noffas contract as we are paying him $ 150, 000 for this year & next plus Toupou which saves us a bit & a few others off contract. I can also see us getting rid of a few players which might help a bit hopefully.
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That's a fair amount of money off contract.

We have to punt Ice, but it is a crap look for us when a talented player comes here and goes backwards.

that's over 1.5m we can play with. We should be able to hire some strong forwards and muscle as we need to replace Ice.

IMHO, this is not the time to punt Bateman. Sure if we could upgrade him, but I don't think there is anyone on the market we could upgrade him too.

If we loose too many in the front row. Good forwards won't come here to be a punching bag.
 
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