Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

I was never for hiring Marshall. I wasn't a big fan of Madge either, but the way it turned out we would have been much better off giving him last year finally with some players he recruited in papalii and Api. He had the burden of mbye, Packer and Reynolds contracts up until that. Not saying he would have succeeded but it gives him the opportunity to go through with a plan.

I say that because the calls are now being made to sack Benji. This is just the same pattern we've been in since we first sacked sheens, always cutting coaches down as soon as things become difficult and everyone gets to hide behind the change and no one is held accountable. Benji needs to be given next year without question. I don't agree with his approach, and I didn't want him here but chopping him down is not progress. Build support around him and try to make it work. Api, Luai, Olam and turuva are all coming or re-signed due to Benji, you sack him now and you completely undermine their trust in the club. Calls to sack him are totally misguided. Support him better, make it work, hold people accountable.
My issue with Benji is he's a hiring from an incompetent board and ceo who absolutely destroyed our club. He gave the guys the bye off for mental health and their physical niggles then we get beat by nearly 50. He's in over his head. Maybe after 5 years in lower grades he could have another crack. But for now we need more than just a coach, we need a father figure, tactician, coach and psychologist all rolled into one.
 
Every year it’s the same noise we hear….sack the coach. Nothing changes when we sack the coach. Looking at the 17 we ran out with last night, I would not hesitate labeling them as probably the worst side we have picked in the last ten years. I don’t blame the coach, we have a very poor roster and on top of that we have injuries and suspensions to factor in.

Okay they should have had a dig and not just meekly surrendered in the second half, but they are a very very average side
 
I was never for hiring Marshall. I wasn't a big fan of Madge either, but the way it turned out we would have been much better off giving him last year finally with some players he recruited in papalii and Api. He had the burden of mbye, Packer and Reynolds contracts up until that. Not saying he would have succeeded but it gives him the opportunity to go through with a plan.

I say that because the calls are now being made to sack Benji. This is just the same pattern we've been in since we first sacked sheens, always cutting coaches down as soon as things become difficult and everyone gets to hide behind the change and no one is held accountable. Benji needs to be given next year without question. I don't agree with his approach, and I didn't want him here but chopping him down is not progress. Build support around him and try to make it work. Api, Luai, Olam and turuva are all coming or re-signed due to Benji, you sack him now and you completely undermine their trust in the club. Calls to sack him are totally misguided. Support him better, make it work, hold people accountable.
The new regime has backed and supported him even though he was a horrible appointment by a previous regime:just because of who he is. They backed his judgement about having a holiday in Fiji.

However, new players want to play for a winning culture don’t they? They’ve seen the outcome of the current coach. This is where communication about direction is important. It doesn’t matter who the coach is. Its about reaching achievable goals. Benji isn’t doing this.
 

According to Zero Tackle. Here are some players off contract for 2025.​


Tigers are in trouble and desperate for a little bit of quality.

There's this push within the club for young local talent which is fine but don't we need some hard headed experienced first graders as well. Like what the Dolphins did.

Not saying this this guy but a couple of players like Jack Debellin

LOCK


Mitch Barnett, Erin Clark, Josh Curran, Adam Elliott, Chris Faagutu, Tohu Harris, Kobe Hetherington, J'maine Hopgood, Aitasi James, Alec MacDonald, Kurt Mann, Justin Matamua, Kurtis Morrin, Joe Ofahengaue, Fonua Pole, Riley Price, Hohepa Puru, Mason Teague, Dylan Walker, Connor Watson

20 players off contract

PROP


Bunty Afoa, Tom Ale, Josh Aloiai, Paul Bryan, Reagan Campbell-Gillard, Jake Clydsdale, Reuben Cotter, Toby Couchman, Iszac Fa'asuamaleaui, Viliami Fifita, Wiremu Greig, Emre Guler, Tuku Hau Tapuha, Thomas Hazelton, Jack Hetherington, Jaiyden Hunt, Royce Hunt, Corey Jensen, Tui Kamikamica, Oregon Kaufusi, Kitione Kautoga, Josh Kerr, Josh King, Spencer Leniu, Ben Liyou, Davvy Moale, Michael Molo, Griffin Neame, Mark Nicholls, Josiah Pahulu, Keenan Palasia, Josh Papalii, Vena Patuki-Case, Alex Seyfarth, Toafofoa Sipley, Sebastian Su'a, Daniel Suluka-Fifita, Ryan Sutton, Leo Thompson, Sam Tuivaiti, Stefano Utoikamanu, Lazarus Vaalepu, Xavier Willison

43 players off contract

SECOND-ROW


Fletcher Baker, Kenneath Bromwich, Ethan Bullemor, Egan Butcher, Bryce Cartwright, Joe Chan, Ben Condon, Ryan Couchman, Matt Doorey, Dylan Egan, Raymond Faitala-Mariner, Ryan Foran, Jackson Ford, Mavrik Geyer, Jack Gosiewski, Jacob Halangahu, Harrison Hassett, Jacob Host, Felise Kaufusi, Connelly Lemuelu, Trent Loiero, Dylan Lucas, Toni Mataele, Dean Matterson, Luca Moretti, Briton Nikora, Seth Nikotemo, Kai Pearce-Paul, D'Jazirhae Pua'Avase, Preston Riki, Dan Russell, Simi Sasagi, Will Sullivan, Kelma Tuilagi, Brandon Tumeth, Teig Wilton
 
The new regime has backed and supported him even though he was a horrible appointment by a previous regime:just because of who he is. They backed his judgement about having a holiday in Fiji.

However, new players want to play for a winning culture don’t they? They’ve seen the outcome of the current coach. This is where communication about direction is important. It doesn’t matter who the coach is. Its about reaching achievable goals. Benji isn’t doing this.
My thoughts on the game; Presumed coaching?
1. Our kick-offs better, longer and higher than they have been. Receiver now caught at 10m line.
2. Sullivan and Galvin kicks higher than previous, maybe not as deep, allowing chasers to get closer to receiver or challenge.
3. Sullivan playing better, now running at speed to the defensive line before passing.
4. Seyfarth joining in backline and passing the ball.
5. Bula starting to run to gaps or setting up outside players after drawing the defence.
6. Galvin is playing the house down but needs some help---cavalry on the way?
These are incremental improvements I am seeing on game day.
Please give the bad coaching a breather. Benji is on a leaning curve like most of the players.
He is starting from a low baseline and with the new players signed and hopefully some new signings to be announced, this will all be turned around. I think he is doing as good a job as any coach could with the players he has at his disposal. The old saying, you....."a silk purse from a sows ear".
 
My thoughts on the game; Presumed coaching?
1. Our kick-offs better, longer and higher than they have been. Receiver now caught at 10m line.
2. Sullivan and Galvin kicks higher than previous, maybe not as deep, allowing chasers to get closer to receiver or challenge.
3. Sullivan playing better, now running at speed to the defensive line before passing.
4. Seyfarth joining in backline and passing the ball.
5. Bula starting to run to gaps or setting up outside players after drawing the defence.
6. Galvin is playing the house down but needs some help---cavalry on the way?
These are incremental improvements I am seeing on game day.
Please give the bad coaching a breather. Benji is on a leaning curve like most of the players.
He is starting from a low baseline and with the new players signed and hopefully some new signings to be announced, this will all be turned around. I think he is doing as good a job as any coach could with the players he has at his disposal. The old saying, you....."a silk purse from a sows ear".
No problems with that info but we do need more troops and player options now to provide alternates to the underperforming ones. We have 2 slots free now with Simpkin gone? For crissake fill them now with journeymen or whatever but have to players capable of performing in NRL.
 
My thoughts on the game; Presumed coaching?
1. Our kick-offs better, longer and higher than they have been. Receiver now caught at 10m line.
2. Sullivan and Galvin kicks higher than previous, maybe not as deep, allowing chasers to get closer to receiver or challenge.
3. Sullivan playing better, now running at speed to the defensive line before passing.
4. Seyfarth joining in backline and passing the ball.
5. Bula starting to run to gaps or setting up outside players after drawing the defence.
6. Galvin is playing the house down but needs some help---cavalry on the way?
These are incremental improvements I am seeing on game day.
Please give the bad coaching a breather. Benji is on a leaning curve like most of the players.
He is starting from a low baseline and with the new players signed and hopefully some new signings to be announced, this will all be turned around. I think he is doing as good a job as any coach could with the players he has at his disposal. The old saying, you....."a silk purse from a sows ear".
I do get what you’re saying. However the learning curve should done at lower grades. No one can persuade me otherwise. That was poor management.

No doubt he has a unique skillset, one is probably his ability to attract players: now if we sign some class there’s some light at the end of the tunnel…

i worry he can’t motivate players like papilli, olam was off last night, steff.

This was the first game they gave up this season…right after a holiday for everyone. Not the right mindset imo.

Hopefully he can get them up for a rebound performance.
 
Every year it’s the same noise we hear….sack the coach. Nothing changes when we sack the coach. Looking at the 17 we ran out with last night, I would not hesitate labeling them as probably the worst side we have picked in the last ten years. I don’t blame the coach, we have a very poor roster and on top of that we have injuries and suspensions to factor in.

Okay they should have had a dig and not just meekly surrendered in the second half, but they are a very very average side
Even Bennett or Bellamy wouldn’t be able to do anything with this roster. Our already poor roster is injury depleted and we’re coming last in first grade and reserves. Overall our club rosters are horrible. I think given the injuries and suspensions benji hasn’t done too bad. The coach is not the problem, it never had been. We need better players.

Whenever we have bought good players; our roster has been weakened elsewhere and out of balance (e.g our backs this year)
 
Even Bennett or Bellamy wouldn’t be able to do anything with this roster. Our already poor roster is injury depleted and we’re coming last in first grade and reserves. Overall our club rosters are horrible. I think given the injuries and suspensions benji hasn’t done too bad. The coach is not the problem, it never had been. We need better players.

Whenever we have bought good players; our roster has been weakened elsewhere and out of balance (e.g our backs this year)
Hi I agree your only as good as the players you have and I guys are trying hard but can't do it for a hole game so nobody was saying sack the coach at the sharks when they got thumpt 48 nil and they have much better roster team us and it's pretty hard to stay positive when the media tell you your shit every week
 
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Even Bennett or Bellamy wouldn’t be able to do anything with this roster. Our already poor roster is injury depleted and we’re coming last in first grade and reserves. Overall our club rosters are horrible. I think given the injuries and suspensions benji hasn’t done too bad. The coach is not the problem, it never had been. We need better players.

Whenever we have bought good players; our roster has been weakened elsewhere and out of balance (e.g our backs this year)
Forwards no better either modern forwards in good clubs are tall giants we keep letting them go else ware need to keep the big bodies
 
Sign Blaize Talagi, bring Tedesco home. Let Ute walk. Move Bula to wing.

Sign De Ballin, Taupau, Chrichton.

1. Tedesco
2. Turuva
3. Talagi
4. Olam
5. Bula

6. Galvin
7. Luai

8. Klemmer
9. Koroisau
10. JDB
11. S. Fainu
12. Chrichton
13. Pole

14. L. Fainu
15. S. Fainu
16. Taupau
17. Miller/Seyfarth


I’ll sleep better
 
Different clubs see different things in players. Tumeth is SOO U19 rep from 2 seasons ago who has plenty of NSW Cup experience for a 21yo and maybe reminds them of a younger Teig Wilton. He'd only be on a minimum salary so would save them space. Just using him as an example.

Remember we have moved on the likes of Zane Musgrove, Ken Mamaulo etc in recent times. A lot of different things at play including managers & how much we would chip in too.

And maybe we get Royce anyway without a trade. I can't remember, did Bulldogs send anything their way for Sharks to release Connor Tracey?
Michael Gabriel a talented junior Centre
 
Coaches make a big difference

Even Richo has said numbers times on podcasts - the most important person in a football club is the coach

Look at what flanno has done at the drags. Made the players the best versions of themselves

Benji has players going backwards. If it wasn’t for luai coming next year im not sure Richo would let him see out the year if we continue to lose another 3 or 4 in a row.
 
Players injured, balance of the squad unable to get through 40 minutes.

Getting flogged by the dragons, making them look like the storm.

Benji saying it’s “unacceptable” 4 times at least, that the players are letting us down.

I think it’s a reason with a short use-by date.

He needs to focus on why he’s not getting through.

They all need psychological help if they can’t remember basic instructions past 5 minutes.

They could be down that many of them are for the chopping block. Worrying about a new contract before they drop the pass.

We should sell everyone and buy the Penrith KOE side. That’s how it’s going.
 
Players injured, balance of the squad unable to get through 40 minutes.

Getting flogged by the dragons, making them look like the storm.

Benji saying it’s “unacceptable” 4 times at least, that the players are letting us down.

I think it’s a reason with a short use-by date.

He needs to focus on why he’s not getting through.

They all need psychological help if they can’t remember basic instructions past 5 minutes.

They could be down that many of them are for the chopping block. Worrying about a new contract before they drop the pass.

We should sell everyone and buy the Penrith KOE side. That’s how it’s going.
I understand from a players perspective you want security knowing you're not being shopped around, but I'll never understand why for the life of me if the players think they're being shopped around why they throw in the towel and not try to put their best foot forward for any prospective clubs who might be interested in picking them up to help prolong their careers. Our blokes seem to think playing like crap is the best way to build interest from other clubs.
 
I understand from a players perspective you want security knowing you're not being shopped around, but I'll never understand why for the life of me if the players think they're being shopped around why they throw in the towel and not try to put their best foot forward for any prospective clubs who might be interested in picking them up to help prolong their careers. Our blokes seem to think playing like crap is the best way to build interest from other clubs.
Sullivan supposedly being shopped around. I thought he had his best game last night. The sin bin was reflex action as I suspect the St George guy would have scored if left untouched. Kicking game improved and tested the defence line more than previously. [I am not related and never met the guy]
Olam had his worst ever game for the Tigers, stupid mistakes and turning over possession along with numerous others. A 28% possession rate in the second half is testament to how badly they respected having the ball. The coach can't be blamed for that! And how can he punish them with our KOE players that are just as bad or worse? I would like to know.
 

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