Bateman, Klemmer

I think/hope Benji knows his value and we’ll see his form improve in a better team next year.

Klemmer. What’s happened? 🙄

He's just done Newcastle knew it, we were desperate enough to take him on. He never offloads anymore he stifles the attack he does his defensive duties but doesnt sting anyone, he still does make meters on the odd occasion but its not anything outstanding.
But with the lack of props and Stefanie moving on we probably have to persist at least for next year.
Pole, Sione, Seyfarth and even Twal are better options but Twal seems to have issues now too.
 
Remember last year when half the forum were calling our pack top 4 and/or dominant. Now Klemmer and Bateman are reserve graders and Utoikamanu is a pillow?
 
Bateman made 200 meters and 20 tackles against the best team in the Comp only 2 weeks back from a long term injury and he is tanking. I think that is a new winner of worst post in forum history
He was a rag doll last week .giving dumb shit all year. Makes 200 mtrs agaist 2nd string team and you rate him?
 
Whatever Tigers fans think of Klemmer and Bateman, (also Matamua & Porter, Tumeth), they simply don’t provide enough go forward or dominant defence to justify their spots in any top 8 future Tigers team. We need to work on moving them on for us to open up some spots and improve the impact of our pack.
Of course I could also name 3-4 current backs that we need to rid as well coz we certainly need 2-3 NRL Winger/ Centres.
A handful of real NRL quality players injected into these positions to support Luai and Turuva and the select young stars, will see us finally turn a corner.
Please Richo and Benji, make this happen!!!
 
Whatever Tigers fans think of Klemmer and Bateman, (also Matamua & Porter, Tumeth), they simply don’t provide enough go forward or dominant defence to justify their spots in any top 8 future Tigers team. We need to work on moving them on for us to open up some spots and improve the impact of our pack.
Of course I could also name 3-4 current backs that we need to rid as well coz we certainly need 2-3 NRL Winger/ Centres.
A handful of real NRL quality players injected into these positions to support Luai and Turuva and the select young stars, will see us finally turn a corner.
Please Richo and Benji, make this happen!!!
the only player in that 5 we should keep is Porter
 
the only player in that 5 we should keep is Porter

I like him but being ruthlessly honest he just doesn’t provide any real impact in A or D. We need roster spots and impactful players that have a competitive winning attitude. Guys who push themselves to 110%. Porter just doesn’t do it.
 
I like him but being ruthlessly honest he just doesn’t provide any real impact in A or D. We need roster spots and impactful players that have a competitive winning attitude. Guys who push themselves to 110%. Porter just doesn’t do it.
understand what your saying but he sees like a slow burner thats good 4 a team,mops up which goes unnnoticed
 
If Bateman could stop doing clumsy errors and giving away poor penalties he'd be a very good player. As it is he can't. I was really enjoying watching the subtlety and effectiveness of his runs when he just played a simple game but then it was just error after error. I don't think we can carry that.

Yeah, Klemmer is done.
 
If Bateman could stop doing clumsy errors and giving away poor penalties he'd be a very good player. As it is he can't. I was really enjoying watching the subtlety and effectiveness of his runs when he just played a simple game but then it was just error after error. I don't think we can carry that.

Yeah, Klemmer is done.
First step in our rebuild is to get a roster full of players who can play at a first grade standard and have a dig.

Bateman is one of those so we have to persist with him.

Good teams make errors too they just defend them more than we do.
 
Remember last year when half the forum were calling our pack top 4 and/or dominant. Now Klemmer and Bateman are reserve graders and Utoikamanu is a pillow?

really ? Can’t say I recall that specifically …. ?

But there are still a lot of optimists here so it wouldn’t surprise me … not that’s necessarily a bad thing …
 
Bateman takes too much cap space but he was decent last night. Tried to milk a penalty when he let go of the ball if you want have a crack at him - did not give away any. Most runs of all the forwards and most metres ( second only to Bula) and post contact metres. Got iced for speed by Wishart - most forewards would. He competes every week but in a losing team he has become any easy target for blame - even for giving away penalties when he hasn't.
 
Bateman takes too much cap space but he was decent last night. Tried to milk a penalty when he let go of the ball if you want have a crack at him - did not give away any. Most runs of all the forwards and most metres ( second only to Bula) and post contact metres. Got iced for speed by Wishart - most forewards would. He competes every week but in a losing team he has become any easy target for blame - even for giving away penalties when he hasn't.
100% Bateman gives a shit on field , he has a go , tackles his guts out and can take a player out of the game for you , he needs the other players to be doing their job as well , we don’t have that happening each week , we have 3 or 4 players each game playing very average , Richo and Benji need to make some callers very quick and start tapping players to move on plus get some new guys who have a crack into our team , I would upgrade Pole , Try and keep Stef and go grab another front rower and a back rower and a big wingers
Move Klemmer to England
tap , Sulivan , Tumeth , Feledy , Naden , and a few more ( 3 ) straight away , tell them Reserve grade is where you are from now on , no chance of first grade at all , brutal but needs to be done ,
 

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