BlackWhiteGold
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Maybe Paws but goes against what the club has been doing with others (Aho, Nicholson, Kit, Vaihu, Hodges etc) so makes you wonder.
FUTURE’S BRIGHT AT THE TIGERS DESPITE CURRENT WOES
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pawsandclaws1
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Some of those players you have mentioned, Hodges and Nicholson, are fine young players. Vaiho if he can improve his defence has potential. Clubs have also brought players up to the NRL bypassing NSW Cup.
Tito Santana
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Well the so called “good defensive players” haven’t been playing as good defensive players have they?
Let them go.
The reason the older guys have the shits is because the younger guys are having a crack.
Tucker
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Yes for the most part, they have.
The problem is our systems.
Your last sentence is ridiculous, fanboy bullshit.
rugbygoated
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Who are the good defenders we're letting go of?
AceofSpades
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If Faagutu doesn’t debut by the end of season similar to Kit & Feledy I guess it’s safe to assume he’s on the outer seeing as he can negotiate from Nov 1
Tucker
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Dont be stupid.
All of them bar Tupou.
Tito Santana
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Ok - bit of an overreaction there champion.
Are you ok?
rugbygoated
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Haha none of them are good defenders. Maybe Papali'i
Tucker
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This narrative started on here lately that the kids do no wrong and the experienced guys are the reason we are last again, gives me the shits.
It is incorrect. The kids F*ck up a lot. They are all to blame.
Tito Santana
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Yes they do but the older guys are performing well below their pay packet mate.
Tucker
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Ignorant take.
Tucker
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That’s on the coaching staff.
There’s no way the older blokes aren’t having a go or have the shits and are leaving because the kids are.
Tito Santana
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Damn dude, you need a stiff drink or a root. Calm down.
Tucker
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Mate you talked shit and got called out.
Stay on task and argue your case.
Hey Lestronge
Finally someone who understands the difference between a Coach and a Trainer.
I still don’t think Benji has stopped being a Trainer as I have seen him jump in at training and showing how to do certain plays.
That’s not his job,
The Coaching side should be setting the game plan hoping that the Trainers have taught each player how to do each task.
Tito Santana
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The Chad
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I would agree that we are losing decent defenders in the forwards in Bateman & Papali'i.
Utoikamanu is uninterested & that could lead to some of his poor defence at the moment, but it is painful watching players skip past him so easily.
Best defensive forwards at the Tigers are Klemmer & Seyfarth. Sam Fainu is learning & has bad reads, but his overall defence is solid.
Pole & Sione Fainu need to work on both reads & technique.
There are a number of solid defensive players available to add. None have the name recognition that will please the mass audience though. But I'd suggest we will do better with them in the squad.
The take that all the younger players are absolved of blame by the supporter base is blinkered & supports one narrative. What I think is, most fans will believe that the youngsters need to play to get improvement. That comes with it's own downsides, as we are seeing.
What the club needs to do, in my opinion, is get enough squad depth so that our young players are not relied upon so much as blooded.
Utoikamanu is uninterested & that could lead to some of his poor defence at the moment, but it is painful watching players skip past him so easily.
Best defensive forwards at the Tigers are Klemmer & Seyfarth. Sam Fainu is learning & has bad reads, but his overall defence is solid.
Pole & Sione Fainu need to work on both reads & technique.
There are a number of solid defensive players available to add. None have the name recognition that will please the mass audience though. But I'd suggest we will do better with them in the squad.
The take that all the younger players are absolved of blame by the supporter base is blinkered & supports one narrative. What I think is, most fans will believe that the youngsters need to play to get improvement. That comes with it's own downsides, as we are seeing.
What the club needs to do, in my opinion, is get enough squad depth so that our young players are not relied upon so much as blooded.
BAGNF05
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The decision was essentially taken out of the clubs hands with these three. They either wanted out or became that frustrated with losing that their performance suffered.
Having around 20% of the cap free now, it’s essentially a win win as Richo needed to reshape the roster and we weren’t going to do that without releasing some highly paid players.
The big test is how that money is spent.
liltiger
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I can see both sides of this argument Richo is damned if you do and damned if you don't. He could hold the players till better are signed which could prolong the roster turnaround depending on what's available. He can do as he is now and just punt the players viewed as surplus and just start ripping the band aid off and moving on asap. Imo we've let go of players who at other clubs will perform well but at the Tigers won 2 wooden spoons, there are issues at the club undoubtedly that are the reasons for that, irrespective they aren't performing so am more supportive of just getting it done asap so the roster rebuild can happen sooner. In my eyes winning 3 or 4 wooden spoons in a row makes no diffrence on the condition we finally right the ship and do it properly this time. My concern is losing our young talent whilst going through this period.
