Sack Marshall
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spork it all,i say.r u ok?
Harvey
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The team needs leaders to put a rocket under some of the logs out there.
Our fitness and effort are terrible and attitude is worse
Snidest 0
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I'm cool - thought I needed to revert to phonetic toddler speak for the court jester
Tiger_Yoshi
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Quote of the season “green shoots”..sick of hearing that…I want to see wins
i wont /dont judge u new millennial thing things,does my head in.peace out
lol
The argument that Benji shouldn’t be sacked bc it means we don’t change our old patterns of behavior which has led us here is sooooo flawed I can’t even deal with it
Hypothetically if Craig Bellamy was available next year you’re saying that we shouldn’t sack Benji bc he should be given more time than one year so we don’t repeat the sage mistakes as the old admin?
If you would take Craig Bellamy - than that means you are saying we should sack Benji if there is a much better option.
Which means we’re only debating who the much better option is.
IMO We should def sack Marshall
And the reason why it’s different to the old admin is that Richo actually has footy IQ.
Pascoe was 12 years of failure.
He could’ve picked a coach every year or every 5 years and it wouldn’t matter. The universe was never going to let that clown win bc he was a pretender with no idea.
I’m sure if luai wasn’t coming next year Richo would be asking Benji to fall on his sword rather than sacking him.
BAGNF05
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At no point in your rambling, incoherent response was there anything that could even be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Snidest 0
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Stop getting on the panic bandwagon with the rest of the sub-adult baby men here - we could have won that game without ONE player in Doueihi...
We already have Turuva as one of the replacement three-quarters next year & a new Origin/international halfback PLUS money to spend and an experienced operator targeting talent...
This forum should be renamed the MAN-BABY CRECHE!!
But pretty sure our wonderful mods @Lauren @Suzie-Q didn't sign up just to wipe the hurled poo off the walls...
If Bellamy was available I could understand sacking Marshall for him, but we all know he’s never gonna coach another club in his lifetime. At least another NRL side anyway so that rules him out. Bennett as well given he’s going back to Souths. Any club will be seen as a positive in the media by signing either of those 2.
But anyway how do you expect for the club to not be seen as a basket case if we keep sacking coaches within a very short period? How can you justify sacking a coach after one year when most coaches even bog average ones get 2-3 years before they’re looking at the sack? I understand majority of these coaches have had some coaching experience elsewhere in some capacity before becoming head coaches, but who is gonna want to coach this club knowing that regardless how good they can be or good they are they have to get the club finals bound within one year otherwise they are sacked? Sheens got sacked after one year and if Benji is as well I doubt someone decent will put their hand up knowing it’s a one year job. Because that’s all we’re showing the NRL is coaching the Tigers is only for one year before we move onto the next.
Carefactor
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This diabolical coaching debacle lays on Richo or the remainder of the board over seeing the" Centre Of Xcellence" aka COX.
Sheens was beyond ridiculous , and Benji was even more ridiculous on a magic mushie bender proportion scale yet He/They let this crap slide instead of killing it stone dead and giving the club a chance to find a real coach.
Sheens was beyond ridiculous , and Benji was even more ridiculous on a magic mushie bender proportion scale yet He/They let this crap slide instead of killing it stone dead and giving the club a chance to find a real coach.
Snidest 0
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You answered it yourself. Benji is not qualified for the job. Easily the worst head coaching appointment in the NRL in the last 20 years.
There are a lot of parts to the footy club that need fixing. The playing roster and coaching staff are two of them and there is no reason we can’t try to fix both of these at the same time.
IMO you would only keep Benji on if you were confident in his ability as a coach. You can’t worry about perception if you (Richo) decides a move needs to be made. Players know very quickly if a coach can or can’t coach. If Benji can’t coach we will lose players.
I don’t expect a child to understand algebra. Thankfully I don’t believe in god - if I did he wouldn’t have allowed me to follow this team.
The Chad
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I find the argument that there is no player development a bit weird considering where Bula, Galvin, Sam Fainu, Faataape, Luke Lualili'i, Rueben Porter, Sione Fainu, Latu Fainu & Johannssen were last year compared to this year.
Someone ridiculed the argument of greater depth. I'd suggest if your options to replace Alaimalo were not Lobb or Luke Lualili'i & were a somewhat experienced, solid player that can slot in- the issue of depth may be understood. Or maybe Rueben Porter, who many quite comfortably call a 'state cup player'- if he was option number 4 or 5 for a backrow spot- he's a fine player. Right now, we lose a player & the scramble is to find the most physically capable of the kids to fill in.
Replacing Benji doesn't fix these problems. Richo has said himself it's a 2 year turn around. We need to weed out the bad deals, invest money in areas that are needed, and build a greater squad depth so that when a guy like Luke Lualili'i comes into 1st grade, it's not because we have no options, but because he's earned his shot.
This off season will be about identifying the young guys they want to persist with & those they want to move on, then strengthening those positions with more experience.
Everyone sooked about Utoikamanu & Bateman's performances this year, and then use losing them as evidence that Benji isn't up to the job. The only 2 players leaving that I'm upset about are Papali'i who has put in with little success & Junior Tupou, who might just be our best winger.
The club has it's star players. Bula, Galvin, Luia, Koroisau, Sam Fainu, Latu Fainu, Pole, Makasini, Large. It doesn't need to invest in superstars. In needs to surround them with anti-Lobb type players- 1st grade quality, smart, no dumb penalties, fit.
If you put a roster like that together & Benji struggles- then there is an argument.
Lastly- Sheens was still supposed to be here as HoF overlooking everything. He didn't want to leave Benji unattended. That was a decision by previous management.
Someone ridiculed the argument of greater depth. I'd suggest if your options to replace Alaimalo were not Lobb or Luke Lualili'i & were a somewhat experienced, solid player that can slot in- the issue of depth may be understood. Or maybe Rueben Porter, who many quite comfortably call a 'state cup player'- if he was option number 4 or 5 for a backrow spot- he's a fine player. Right now, we lose a player & the scramble is to find the most physically capable of the kids to fill in.
Replacing Benji doesn't fix these problems. Richo has said himself it's a 2 year turn around. We need to weed out the bad deals, invest money in areas that are needed, and build a greater squad depth so that when a guy like Luke Lualili'i comes into 1st grade, it's not because we have no options, but because he's earned his shot.
This off season will be about identifying the young guys they want to persist with & those they want to move on, then strengthening those positions with more experience.
Everyone sooked about Utoikamanu & Bateman's performances this year, and then use losing them as evidence that Benji isn't up to the job. The only 2 players leaving that I'm upset about are Papali'i who has put in with little success & Junior Tupou, who might just be our best winger.
The club has it's star players. Bula, Galvin, Luia, Koroisau, Sam Fainu, Latu Fainu, Pole, Makasini, Large. It doesn't need to invest in superstars. In needs to surround them with anti-Lobb type players- 1st grade quality, smart, no dumb penalties, fit.
If you put a roster like that together & Benji struggles- then there is an argument.
Lastly- Sheens was still supposed to be here as HoF overlooking everything. He didn't want to leave Benji unattended. That was a decision by previous management.
I agree with you
If galvin had another year on his contract and he wasn’t able to talk to teams until November 1 2026 - I would 100% be on board with giving benji 3/4 of next year.
But if we don’t start well galvin is out.
In my opinion he’s a generational talent like teddy was and if it means sacrificing marshal to keep him than that’s what I would do.
Unfortunately we don’t have that much time to waste bc of players contracts
and im the court jester - pull your head in - your out of character 2night baby
No guarantees Galvin stays even if Benji is gone. Being an Issac Moses client there’s every chance he’s out regardless. But if you want to attract a decent coach how do you expect to do that when we sack our coaches in a very short period as of late. 4 different head coaches since 2022, I get Noddy was an interim but he did officially have the position for a period of time. No decent coach is gonna come to a club that barely keeps its head coach for more than a season. Madge was the last one to stay for more than a year and we’ve had 3 different coaches since. Who’s gonna want to come to that if we can’t keep them for more than a year and sack them when they don’t make the 8?
You won’t fix the coaching staff if no one that is decent will come knowing they’re employed for a year before getting the sack. That’s what I’ve been saying the whole time. Who’s gonna come when if they aren’t gonna get a proper chance to turn things around? Any decent coach will think why come to a club that’s known for sacking its coaches in a short period?
Again… it’s richo this time not Justin and Lee.
Coaches will trust Richo bc he’s a proven winner.
And every coach knows if they win the spoon whatever the club … they’re going to be in the firing line.
Agree no guarantees on galvin staying but that doesn’t mean do nothing, it means do the best job you can to retain him, which means get the best coach available.
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