Sack Marshall

Saturnalia said:
At this stage, all I'm looking for is a cohesive structure.

I'm not that bothered if they can't score a try, but I do want to see them execute at high speed.

This is one of my big bug bears.

I don't care if they get tackled immediately and the play goes nowhere, just execute a play like you've practiced a play and know what's coming.

Yes you can be my assistant.

My pressers would be well .. not suitable for anyone on planet earth....
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Mate you are dealing with Australians not bible bashing seppos we can handle the language
 
Gazman said:
Before they sack another coach mid season , how sure are we that on current form Benji is the answer. I would have been more confident of his transition to a 1st grade coach if some progress was evident. All I see though is a dead man walking and the club releasing yet another coach mid season and another season written off. I sure hope I am wrong
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Tigerdazz2 said:
Sacking coaches has been real successful eh?

What Richo has been trying to do, offload the "deadwood" is the right direction in my opinion.

Klemmer, Papalli'i, Douhei, Seezer, Sullivan have not performed at 1st grade level. Stef has switched off...too busy thinking of his luxury Jayco caravan, Car Sales Audi & Haines Hunter boat he's going to get at the Storm.
Our backline at its strongest can be very competitive.....most of them are kids and they are building nicely.
With some decent forward signings, Luai & Turuva coming next year & the young guys getting plenty of experience a bit earlier than optimal and there's the basis of a competitive team.

You can't coach effort, something some of our "marquee" players have sorely lacked for the last two seasons.
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Yes. You can coach effort. The Spirit.
 
oldschooltiger said:
If Marshall was to go. Who would he the next coach
Brad Arthur
Jason Demetriou
John Morris
Anthony Griffin
Geoff Toovey
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Josh Hannay
Ben Hornby

Both have done very long apprenticeships as assistant coaches. Both have had interim head coaching experience. I’d go for Hannay personally. I think someone on here knows him and mentioned he’d be interested in the head coaching gig only as he would not work as an assistant under Benji.

Also Mary McGregor.
 
Brad Arthur for me.

The problem with sacking Benji is he has lots of mates in the media and just like the last 2 times we sacked him as a player, the club will be further dragged through the mud.

The main issue is Luai is coming to play for Benji. For that reason, I think Richo will stick with him until at least halfway through next year.

At the very least, next year Farah and Heighno should be replaced by some experienced assistants.
 
happy_tiger said:
Benji laughing during pressers ....if you think it's funny .....there is the door....use it ...it ain't
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He knows he’s not under any genuine pressure.

As soon as he was retained from the Tim debacle, it was a free ride. Then Luais eternal love at that press conference.

All of this has taught him that he’ll have the job for some time yet whether he wins or not. And he’s probably right.
 
Wiz said:
Josh Hannay
Ben Hornby

Both have done very long apprenticeships as assistant coaches. Both have had interim head coaching experience. I’d go for Hannay personally. I think someone on here knows him and mentioned he’d be interested in the head coaching gig only as he would not work as an assistant under Benji.

Also Mary McGregor.
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Hannah would jump at the chance but not sure if he’s any good, I his own right ?
Hornby the same.
Who knows who we’d get.
 
TSP said:
He knows he’s not under any genuine pressure.

As soon as he was retained from the Tim debacle, it was a free ride. Then Luais eternal love at that press conference.

All of this has taught him that he’ll have the job for some time yet whether he wins or not. And he’s probably right.
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When we dont win with Luai here, the drums will be deafening.
 
The Chad said:
I find the argument that there is no player development a bit weird considering where Bula, Galvin, Sam Fainu, Faataape, Luke Lualili'i, Rueben Porter, Sione Fainu, Latu Fainu & Johannssen were last year compared to this year.

Someone ridiculed the argument of greater depth. I'd suggest if your options to replace Alaimalo were not Lobb or Luke Lualili'i & were a somewhat experienced, solid player that can slot in- the issue of depth may be understood. Or maybe Rueben Porter, who many quite comfortably call a 'state cup player'- if he was option number 4 or 5 for a backrow spot- he's a fine player. Right now, we lose a player & the scramble is to find the most physically capable of the kids to fill in.

Replacing Benji doesn't fix these problems. Richo has said himself it's a 2 year turn around. We need to weed out the bad deals, invest money in areas that are needed, and build a greater squad depth so that when a guy like Luke Lualili'i comes into 1st grade, it's not because we have no options, but because he's earned his shot.

This off season will be about identifying the young guys they want to persist with & those they want to move on, then strengthening those positions with more experience.

Everyone sooked about Utoikamanu & Bateman's performances this year, and then use losing them as evidence that Benji isn't up to the job. The only 2 players leaving that I'm upset about are Papali'i who has put in with little success & Junior Tupou, who might just be our best winger.

The club has it's star players. Bula, Galvin, Luia, Koroisau, Sam Fainu, Latu Fainu, Pole, Makasini, Large. It doesn't need to invest in superstars. In needs to surround them with anti-Lobb type players- 1st grade quality, smart, no dumb penalties, fit.

If you put a roster like that together & Benji struggles- then there is an argument.

Lastly- Sheens was still supposed to be here as HoF overlooking everything. He didn't want to leave Benji unattended. That was a decision by previous management.
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I largely agree with what you have written however since Madge's sacking we have been told that Benji has been the loudest voice in composing the roster. During this time seemingly every signing bar Fainu has been a poor signing Klemmer, Bateman, Sullivan, Olam have been expensive failures on long term deals whilst none of the low value opportunistic deals, Lobb, Faatape, Alaimao, look like producing a decent long term option.
The development of many of the developing players such as Matamua, Faagutu Saukuru, we were previously told would lift our side seems to have stalled or they have gone elsewhere U, Tupou, Blore, Simpkin.
The coach has reportedly clashed with and released a senior player in the past in Joe O, now looks to be doing the same with Bateman whilst the boss had to have an emergency meeting with the one shining light of this season in Galvin to convince him that he has a contract and there is a future here.
Now a forward pack that has already not performed in losing 3 representative forwards (which they are despite of what any of us think of their performance this year) in Utoikamanu, Papallii and Bateman because they do not want to be here.
None of this adds up to convince me that the new lot of young talent will amount to anything at this club or that the club will use its new war chest to attract players capable of performing well here.
 
liltiger said:
It's the final bad decision of a dying boardroom we still need to sort out before we have fully moved on as a club from the boards incompetence. Richo needs to act and needs to act fast
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Would have been signed off by HBG who basically appoint the board. They are still there, only the scapegoats have changed.
 
People need understand Benji was rushed into Coaching position under the blind theory he would learn under the coaching guru Sheens well that was a cluster from the inception, Nothing from current season is showing any player having their skills developed, there is no real attacking structure our defensive structure is poor and constantly shows that we are unfit, lack strength, and heart to do the hard task.

Benji should have coached the lower grades before been handed the top job.

And by choice Benji is marched my choices would be 1.Sam Burgess 2. Josh Hannay 3. Dean Young.

Brad Arthur wants to coach the Western Australia side.
 
Curaeus said:
Any head coach other than Benji would have been sacked months ago. I like Benji and hope things improve next year with the new recruits already announced plus a few more and hope we can get another win or two out of what's left of this miserable year but whether we finish last or 2nd last, its been a disaster either way.
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There is literally zero precedent of a coach being sacked early in his first year. That’s a muppet post.
 
TrueTiger said:
I was not in agreement with Benji as head coach of our NRL squad with no formal coaching experience,in my view he had to at least go out to group six or whatever to gain that experience as a man manager and coach,having said that we are now in the position of trying to combine youth with experience as far as the squad goes being coached by a superstar player with very little coaching experience...
What we should do is let Benji have the next 12 months with some better players that can guide the youth on the field and hopefully Benji can get a copy of the latest NRL coaching manual and read it front to back as many times as possible before preseason..
Benji needs some help and although it seems tough atm I reckon he will become a good head coach in the future,however our team and club are his learning curve so far and we are getting demolished by more experienced teams and coaches...
We need coaches and players of high quality to compete in the toughest comp in the world,how we achieve this is up to Richo to sort what can work or what will work...
While being a member of this club I have taken some beatings along the way,there will be more on the way for sure BUT Im a sticker and I have faith that things will improve gradually in the next 3/4 years,BUT I will say it again BENJI NEEDS HELP,I dont want him to end up looking like a fool after all he has done for us as a player and club icon....
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If Benji was the priority and the tigers had a "good enough" squad to finish 9th every year... then yeah sure....

But this clubs priority should be Lachlan Galvin.

The strategy for Benji isn't a "you're gone" but "bring someone in to finish your apprenticeship under". He probably knows its better for him in the long run, he is a switched on bloke who will take the knock and move forward... hopefully become one of the clubs greatest coaches one day...

If we risk it all on Benji and sacrifice the improvement of Galvin, then how could we blame young Lachy if he starts rethinking his commitment here.. From all reports, he doesn't want to go anywhere... So I'd build the club around him.

There aren't many clubs with the best 18 and 19 year old haves in the game, at the same NRL club!
 
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