OFFICIAL Pathways - KOE General Discussion

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Bigscreentv said:
Might be sacrilegious to say, but I think TDS will be the starting hooker for first grade mid to late next year. I don’t know how much longer api can go at his intensity. He’ll come off the bench like had did at Penrith imo.
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with the way Tallyn’s progressing it’s certainly not out of the realm of possibility, but there’s a lot of footy to be played between now and then.

Api will definitely end up doing the old Mitch Kenny stint and doing the first 25 before Tallyn comes on and rips it up, but I couldn’t tell you when exactly it’s going to happen.
 
Bellend said:
In all Honesty it will depend on who is coaching KOE next season cause the current one is no good.
There is a distinct lack in player development this season. Personally, i would keep Naden but he must understand he is only playing KOE.
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We haven't had a decent KOE cup coach for years…..
 
Nice for the boys to get a win. They were putting in all day. Naden Miller and TDS our best.
I thought it was odd that our coaches were all sitting on Bunnings chairs on top of the away team sheds down the end of the ground. If a ground has nowhere for coaches to sit then we shouldn't play there.
 
Vicious said:
What are your thoughts on these players in regards to their future NRL potential with us ?
We know Benji has virtually wiped Naden from any future plans, but I praise him for his attitude of going back to NSW Cup and clearly being in our top 3 players each and every week. Based on this should we possibly keep him for the last year of his contract with us to provide genuine back up to our first choice NRL players ?
TDS keeps impressing which is great to hear.
Johanssen is seemingly carrying our NSW Cup forwards and looks every bit a serious contender for our NRL team.
Feledy keeps impressing and considering he’s only 19, does his ability get overlooked by some of our supporters?
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I've re-watched the game & it reinforced a few things as others have mentioned too.

Naden & TDS were the class that won us the game. Miller, Johannssen & also Matamua were good with their carries in the middle.

Feledy has uncanny strength to break tackles in attack, was better in defence this game but still had a couple of poor reads.

We just don't seem to use our wingers well in Cup aside from yardage returns. But both Ngutlik & Taotua have something about them that suggests both could explode in future if given good ball & space.

Sukkar was ok but never stands out whilst Broederlow was one of our worst defensively.

To me, Tavana needs to go back to Flegg next season, really work on his strength & defence at fullback. Too easily brushed or bumped off with limp efforts. I think he went off injured at HT rather than pulled.

Kit needs a big off-season & pre-season if he wants to prove he belongs. Yes he makes some good runs, not consistent enough, but really needs to work on his defence as he has owned some poor miss tackles this season (including yesterday).

What we all have to remember is that Feledy is still 20, Kit 19, Matamua 21, Miller 19 & Broederlow 20. Most of their weaknesses are with DEFENCE.

None of them should be cut at this stage of their development and be given the opportunity to improve their weaknesses over the off & pre-seasons, continue to build in size (Miller cut back), strength, speed & power.

I doubt Declan Casey will be retained. He has been very disappointing on both sides of the ball & with decision making.

But as some have also mentioned, there must be a big ? over the coaching of this group from development & game plan perspectives. Whether that is the coach Aaron Payne himself or higher up the chain needs to be reviewed quickly.
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
I've re-watched the game & it reinforced a few things as others have mentioned too.

Naden & TDS were the class that won us the game. Miller, Johannssen & also Matamua were good with their carries in the middle.

Feledy has uncanny strength to break tackles in attack, was better in defence this game but still had a couple of poor reads.

We just don't seem to use our wingers well in Cup aside from yardage returns. But both Ngutlik & Taotua have something about them that suggests both could explode in future if given good ball & space.

Sukkar was ok but never stands out whilst Broederlow was one of our worst defensively.

To me, Tavana needs to go back to Flegg next season, really work on his strength & defence at fullback. Too easily brushed or bumped off with limp efforts. I think he went off injured at HT rather than pulled.

Kit needs a big off-season & pre-season if he wants to prove he belongs. Yes he makes some good runs, not consistent enough, but really needs to work on his defence as he has owned some poor miss tackles this season (including yesterday).

What we all have to remember is that Feledy is still 20, Kit 19, Matamua 21, Miller 19 & Broederlow 20. Most of their weaknesses are with DEFENCE.

None of them should be cut at this stage of their development and be given the opportunity to improve their weaknesses over the off & pre-seasons, continue to build in size (Miller cut back), strength, speed & power.

I doubt Declan Casey will be retained. He has been very disappointing on both sides of the ball & with decision making.

But as some have also mentioned, there must be a big ? over the coaching of this group from development & game plan perspectives. Whether that is the coach Aaron Payne himself or higher up the chain needs to be reviewed quickly.
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Great summary. WT needs to concentrate on defence in KOE and first grade and changes should be made at the coaching level. I don't think scoring points is the issue and definitely shouldn't be next year.
 
balmain boy said:
Nice for the boys to get a win. They were putting in all day. Naden Miller and TDS our best.
I thought it was odd that our coaches were all sitting on Bunnings chairs on top of the away team sheds down the end of the ground. If a ground has nowhere for coaches to sit then we shouldn't play there.
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I seen Richo with WT crew on the sideline for the Flegg game.
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
I've re-watched the game & it reinforced a few things as others have mentioned too.

Naden & TDS were the class that won us the game. Miller, Johannssen & also Matamua were good with their carries in the middle.

Feledy has uncanny strength to break tackles in attack, was better in defence this game but still had a couple of poor reads.

We just don't seem to use our wingers well in Cup aside from yardage returns. But both Ngutlik & Taotua have something about them that suggests both could explode in future if given good ball & space.

Sukkar was ok but never stands out whilst Broederlow was one of our worst defensively.

To me, Tavana needs to go back to Flegg next season, really work on his strength & defence at fullback. Too easily brushed or bumped off with limp efforts. I think he went off injured at HT rather than pulled.

Kit needs a big off-season & pre-season if he wants to prove he belongs. Yes he makes some good runs, not consistent enough, but really needs to work on his defence as he has owned some poor miss tackles this season (including yesterday).

What we all have to remember is that Feledy is still 20, Kit 19, Matamua 21, Miller 19 & Broederlow 20. Most of their weaknesses are with DEFENCE.

None of them should be cut at this stage of their development and be given the opportunity to improve their weaknesses over the off & pre-seasons, continue to build in size (Miller cut back), strength, speed & power.

I doubt Declan Casey will be retained. He has been very disappointing on both sides of the ball & with decision making.

But as some have also mentioned, there must be a big ? over the coaching of this group from development & game plan perspectives. Whether that is the coach Aaron Payne himself or higher up the chain needs to be reviewed quickly.
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Appreciate your insights
 
Miller’s form has seemed to fluctuate, but that is normal for a young player, particularly a forward.
I’m more concerned about Kit who has not played a single stand out game all season.
Although a little bit older the emergence of Tim Johanssen has been phenomenal. He has been a standout in nearly every game he’s played and appears to be getting better each game as his confidence continues to grow.
 
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