Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

2041 said:
Some players who are under contract move but you can't just demand the signing of contracted players. You see people on here saying we should sign, say, Payne Haas and Liam Martin on the basis that "contracted players move all the time". That's not how it works.
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Obviously, you can't just say we'll take XX player, thanks. But most clubs will have several players they're happy to move on. To suggest that we can only sign free agents is absurd.
 
balmain boy said:
That's actually not true, and it surprises me people still think like this.

Each year most of the players who change clubs are under contracted and released early. It happens a lot. Clubs changings coaches, tactics or players needing a fresh start and a club happy to offload them.
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Blore wasn't available this year, Neither was Papalii...
Matterson in 2020, Aloiai before that....

Offer a player a reason and money, Most are available.
 
We won't know how good anyones recruitment has been until next season.
Not many predicted the Bulldogs to finish top 5 after recruiting what we're mostly considered second string utilities, and plenty joked when Manly took Tommy T off our hands who was close to the best recruit of the season.
 
GNR4LIFE said:
Weren’t you just accusing someone else of moving the goalposts? 😅

You made that challenge quite matter of factly my man.
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No it's not. In order to take Talagi as the second best signing one has to accept Papali'i as the best. That's a "hmm" from me - it means assuming his time at Parra is his true ability rather than his time at the Warriors or Tigers. That's not moving the goalposts, it's questioning your premises.

And I said I'd take it. Then you have to accept that Talagi is a better signing than Turuva - which is unproven. But I'll give you that, too. And then you get to: our recruitment may be very slightly less good than the best club in the comp. Which is a pretty long way from worse than everyone else's, which is where this nonsense began.
 
The comment you responded to
balmain boy said:
Obviously, you can't just say we'll take XX player, thanks. But most clubs will have several players they're happy to move on. To suggest that we can only sign free agents is absurd.
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The comment you responded to said "we can only sign what's available". I'm not sure what you think you're disagreeing with.
 
Demps said:

There's quite a few teams that are looking quite ordinary for 2025
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Looks pretty similar to the side that Schooled us twice this year gone....
we any better you reckon?

GNR4LIFE said:
Parra told Gutho he could pound sand. Happens every year.
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Difference between us and most clubs is most clubs have spots / room....
We're hoping someone is miraculously gonna buy the 6 players the side who ran last doesn't want so we can improve...
 
The Chad said:
My only real concern with Lualili'i getting the nod is that it is almost gift wrapped to him. That has been my one issue with the juniors starting- they didn't earn their way in- they got in on natural ability.

It's his position eventually. No doubt. But there is no consequence to not pushing himself harder, to improve etc. He's not 100% up to NRL standard, but he's likely given a walk-up start.

For mine, Benji would be better off using aging veterans & having the kids beat them out through work.

That is why I suggest Liam Knight, Joe Stimson etc. I expect they'll get beaten out over the course of their contract. But at least the junior player worked hard & won the spot. To'a & Naden, to some degree, have earned first shot at the outside backs.
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He crashed through 3 defenders to score with his second touch in the NRL and showed great finishing ability on other occasions.

Runs the ball without fear.

Is 18.

Sometimes you can see the ability is there and you have to accept that someone else will give him a shot if you don’t.

I’m backing this guy.
 
balmain boy said:
He actually didn't earn it. Not at all. A handful of NSW Cup matches where he was error prone and found out physically. That and some part time training sessions.

He has a much higher potential ceiling than any of the others, but he was picked purely on that potential, not on merit or performance.

I'm not saying he won't get there but he was extremely raw and shouldn't have been thrown in like that
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Rubbish.

There are more metrics to 'earning it'.

Read the entire post again.
 
weststigers said:
Well put.

In a year when not much was on the market, I'm pretty happy with what we've managed to sign.
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So out of interest, considering players left, and trust me i wasnt a fan of most except maybe Stefano i would of liked to of stayed but was dissappointing espiecially 2nd half of the season. Where do you see us finishing with the players with have signed til date .
 
balmain boy said:
That's actually not true, and it surprises me people still think like this.

Each year most of the players who change clubs are under contracted and released early. It happens a lot. Clubs changings coaches, tactics or players needing a fresh start and a club happy to offload them.
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So the key is to cast out a wide net look desperate to every other club and hope something bites
 
Needaname said:
So the key is to cast out a wide net look desperate to every other club and hope something bites
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It's to target players who are blocked and make them an aggressive offer so they put pressure on their current club to get out of their contract.
We don't want to look desperate, that's how you get bad contracts. We went to be calculated and aggressive
 
Kelce68 said:
No no no.

It was a comment base upon recruitment. It's who they are now.

One can't tackle, the other one has multiple rings and was a starting winger for the best team in the comp.

Poor take. Own it.
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One can’t tackle? You do realise Turuva has a 74.3% tackle efficiency while Talagi had 80.6% this season? To put this in perspective his wing partner To’o was at the 89.6% while Tago was 88% Alamoti 83.7%

Based on statistics Turuva’s defence is quite poor compared to the rest of Penrith backs, in fact his defensive decisions resulted in him being dropped on 2 occasions this season by Ivan Cleary. Not saying he can’t fix it but a bit rich to say Blaize can’t tackle…
 
BAGNF05 said:
He crashed through 3 defenders to score with his second touch in the NRL and showed great finishing ability on other occasions.

Runs the ball without fear.

Is 18.

Sometimes you can see the ability is there and you have to accept that someone else will give him a shot if you don’t.

I’m backing this guy.
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He needs another 3 years in Cup
 
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