OFFICIAL Terrell May #296

jrtiger said:
I completely agree that Bula's got work to do on his support play but we're clearly getting the ball away and creating second phase. that's the start of it. Terrell increases our capacity to do so.
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Be a fair argument to be made - Are we offloading with intent for position?
Or just hurling it out with reckless abandon - for no impact.
 
batboy said:
Fair Play..... Just numbers though - Aren't they...
Will be a bit different offloading to a fullback at full tilt through the middle,
Than to a lumbering forward who's out of position.
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A lot of Terrell’s offloads went to a lumbering forward out of position, the Roosters were able to capitalise on it by getting it to the speed men. What’s to say we can’t do similar.
 
jrtiger said:
Terrell is tall timber. 193cm and 108kg. he averages around 55-60 minutes a game, but can play longer minutes if need be.

he's got a very high workrate. averages around 12 hitups a game and has the fourth highest tackle efficiency percentage in the entire competition, behind Payne Haas, Martin Taupau and Isaah Yeo.

he offloaded 38 times in 27 games last year, outlining his ability to create second phase play, and has an excellent passing game for a man his size, evidenced in some pretty incredible highlights.

he's not really a tackle breaking type, but his tendency to offload does alleviate this. his average carry of 8 metres is probably the only thing that needs work, but I attribute that to playing high minutes.
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Currently 115kg. Hopefully he holds that weight.
Do you think he is an Alpha prop though? I don’t think that’s his in his DNA. He seems very similar to a Payne Hass where he is exceptional but doesn’t have that fear factor.
That’s where Hunt comes in I think he can be our Alpha.
 
jrtiger said:
Terrell is tall timber. 193cm and 108kg. he averages around 55-60 minutes a game, but can play longer minutes if need be.

he's got a very high workrate. averages around 12 hitups a game and has the fourth highest tackle efficiency percentage in the entire competition, behind Payne Haas, Martin Taupau and Isaah Yeo.

he offloaded 38 times in 27 games last year, outlining his ability to create second phase play, and has an excellent passing game for a man his size, evidenced in some pretty incredible highlights.

he's not really a tackle breaking type, but his tendency to offload does alleviate this. his average carry of 8 metres is probably the only thing that needs work, but I attribute that to playing high minutes.
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Could he be a lock option with that ball playing etc?
 
Needaname said:
Currently 115kg. Hopefully he holds that weight.
Do you think he is an Alpha prop though? I don’t think that’s his in his DNA. He seems very similar to a Payne Hass where he is exceptional but doesn’t have that fear factor.
That’s where Hunt comes in I think he can be our Alpha.
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Yep, or Samuela.
 
Needaname said:
Currently 115kg. Hopefully he holds that weight.
Do you think he is an Alpha prop though? I don’t think that’s his in his DNA. He seems very similar to a Payne Hass where he is exceptional but doesn’t have that fear factor.
That’s where Hunt comes in I think he can be our Alpha.
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I completely agree with you, I've got him in the top percentile of the workhorse class as well.

high minute, defensively-minded prop with the ability to offload. he's not really someone I'd call an enforcer. it's why I think Hunt should start next to him.

it also means that Seyfarth has to play on an edge and we can only run with one of Klemmer and Twal.
 
Needaname said:
Yes actually Samuela at prop isn’t a bad shout as a long term option. Right now he is too quick and silky for the middle.
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Yeah his athleticism, speed, fitness & skill with the ball can be dynamic on the edge which we got a taste for last season. He has the profile to become of the game's best backrowers so wouldn't be moving him to the middle for a while but it's good he has the versatility to.
 
Needaname said:
Currently 115kg. Hopefully he holds that weight.
Do you think he is an Alpha prop though? I don’t think that’s his in his DNA. He seems very similar to a Payne Hass where he is exceptional but doesn’t have that fear factor.
That’s where Hunt comes in I think he can be our Alpha.
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I compared the stats on all our props
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May is clear NR1 next year. Better then Stefano and such a standout.
Bateman is next to useless.
Hunt, is actually concerning. He has very few minutes nad a lot of missed tackles. I would really need to see his game improve out of sight. I don't have him in the starting 17 based off stats.

Ofcourse May's game may drop. Even then he is ahead of every prop we have, by far.
 
GNR4LIFE said:
It’s all because of Luai. People are deluding themselves if they think it’s due to anyone else. He’s a personality and player other players want to play with. I think it bodes well for retaining Galvin quite frankly.
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You don’t strengthen a chain by simply adding a single strong link. You continually replace the weakest link. Nobody’s walking on water that I can see.
 
batboy said:
No offence,
But he just won't get those sort of stats playing with us....

I shudder when I look at his offloads, With all that ability - Who's he feeding here?
Our side is lucky to have a bloke within passing distance any time an offload is on.
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I don't think you can look at last years team and or stats and compare. We have 5 or 6 new recruits (almost half a team) that walk into our starting side, one of them being one of the most dominant players in the comp.

Lets just wait and see how things pan out, if we don't have a considerably marked improvement by mid season expect change.
 
jrtiger said:
I think Sammy will move to the middle when Hunt retires. it makes the most sense and he's only going to get bigger and stronger.
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The way the game is going..Sammy will make a great middle(he's about the same size and weight as Terrell May). But.. not before we find a couple of good second rowers that complement Galvin and Luai.
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
Yeah his athleticism, speed, fitness & skill with the ball can be dynamic on the edge which we got a taste for last season. He has the profile to become of the game's best backrowers so wouldn't be moving him to the middle for a while but it's good he has the versatility to.
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Yeah , massive waste if you put him in the middle, could be a Kikau type as he grows into his body.
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
Yeah his athleticism, speed, fitness & skill with the ball can be dynamic on the edge which we got a taste for last season. He has the profile to become of the game's best backrowers so wouldn't be moving him to the middle for a while but it's good he has the versatility to.
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Yep, Linebacker style, his lateral
movement & Footwork is great
 
twentyforty said:
While that may be the original catalyst, there has to be something else?
We have been desperately trying to find a lead domino, someone players love to follow, someone who is always in the game regardless of the scoreboard, and consistently produces something. I think recruiting got a whole lot easier since the signing of Luai.
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While I completely agree about JL, players wanna play with good players who are professional competitors.
I reckon Richo is a big part of the change. Richo ( and Benji) got JL and Richo knows the pulling power of a JL or a Greg Ingless.
 
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