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I think the WT board has not been appointed because Romero, Burgess and co. haven’t appointed the Chair. Barry O’Farrell’s interim appointment expired more than 6 months ago.
What was his term? I read somewhere the other day it was for “at least 6 months” which would mean it was for as long as it takes, I could be wrong on that, though.
 
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My friend BZN, might I just add, that the Wests Tigers Faithful (WTF) is the one podcast having not contributed negatively to the current ongoing situation at our great club. A totally independent and friendly bunch that are the kind of blokes you never regret having a beer/bag with. Unlike Magpies1963.

Not to subtract anything from your very valid points, just wanted to point that out.
Ok, thank you 👍
 
"Backs? Irrelevant! The Front Rower’s Club (FRC) on Boardroom Politics"

Ah, Rugby League. The ultimate battle of brawn, skill, and the occasional questionable haircut. And within its glorious chaos lies an unspoken truth: backs are just there to make up the numbers. After all, why tackle when you need to protect your beautiful teeth (ask AD)? This very mindset is surprisingly transferable to boardroom politics, as seen in the ongoing drama within the Holman Barnes Group Board. Strap in, folks—this one’s messier than a prop’s post-match night on the town.

The Front Rowers’ Club: We Carry the Team (and the Company)

We know our value. We’re the grinders, the lifters, the eaters of raw meat. Without our heavy lifting, the backs, and to a lesser extend edges and lock, would have nothing to prance around with. The same logic applies to the “core” members of the Holman Barnes Group Board, who see themselves as the backbone of the company. While some factions argue over trivial matters like “vision” and “strategy,” these stalwart decision-makers are busy doing the real work—like securing their parking spots at board meetings.

Backs: Masters of Flair, Legends of Irrelevance

What do backs do, anyway? Sure, they have their moments—darting runs, graceful sidesteps, the occasional try—but they’re essentially accessories to our’ brilliance. The parallel in the Holman Barnes saga? Those pesky “innovators” and “change agents” trying to bring in fresh ideas. Cute, isn’t it? But just as wingers can’t tackle, these progressive thinkers clearly don’t belong in the trenches of corporate warfare.

Infighting: A Scrum Without the Rules

The Holman Barnes Board’s factions are like forwards and backs at a team dinner after too many beers. The FRC believe their grind deserves more respect, the while the backs insist they’re the ones scoring the metaphorical tries and the edges and lock sit on the side singing “What about me” (badly) The result? Chaos. One faction is focused on the traditional game plan—tried, tested, and slow-moving—while another advocates for bold plays that risk losing the ball entirely. And just like in every NRL game, someone’s going to end up with a black eye. Did you walk into a door Julie?

The Solution: Bring Back the Biff

The Front Rowers’ Club is a sacred space where big units with cauliflower ears unite to celebrate their indispensability.; coached to do so by the only one with some form of intelligence in the group, the Hooker (G’Day Richo). Perhaps the Holman Barnes Group needs something similar. A place where the forward-thinking strategists (pun intended) can hash things out without interference from the flashier, “big picture” types. After all, nothing resolves a corporate dispute like a little exclusivity and a lot of snacks; or being boxed around the ears by a prop!

The Final Whistle

So, are backs irrelevant? Absolutely. Just as irrelevant as the factions on the Holman Barnes Board, and die hards on this forum from both former clubs, who think their ideas matter more than teamwork. At the end of the day, it’s not about who’s right or who’s scoring—it’s about driving the business forward (pun still intended). If the board could channel even a fraction of a the FRC’s unity, they might just make progress.

Until then, the FRC will be over here, carrying the load without complaint and cheering when the edges and lock get stepped by a back or a back gets absolutely polaxed by a second rower.

When they finally realise that they need the unity of the FRC and come together on the same page – other teams will start to quiver!

Written and authorised by the Hooker on behalf of the FRC sitting on the sidelines having a beer and a laugh!
 
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"Backs? Irrelevant! The Front Rower’s Club (FRC) on Boardroom Politics"

Ah, Rugby League. The ultimate battle of brawn, skill, and the occasional questionable haircut. And within its glorious chaos lies an unspoken truth: backs are just there to make up the numbers. After all, why tackle when you need to protect your beautiful teeth (ask AD)? This very mindset is surprisingly transferable to boardroom politics, as seen in the ongoing drama within the Holman Barnes Group Board. Strap in, folks—this one’s messier than a prop’s post-match night on the town.

The Front Rowers’ Club: We Carry the Team (and the Company)

We know our value. We’re the grinders, the lifters, the eaters of raw meat. Without our heavy lifting, the backs, and to a lesser extend edges and lock, would have nothing to prance around with. The same logic applies to the “core” members of the Holman Barnes Group Board, who see themselves as the backbone of the company. While some factions argue over trivial matters like “vision” and “strategy,” these stalwart decision-makers are busy doing the real work—like securing their parking spots at board meetings.

Backs: Masters of Flair, Legends of Irrelevance

What do backs do, anyway? Sure, they have their moments—darting runs, graceful sidesteps, the occasional try—but they’re essentially accessories to our’ brilliance. The parallel in the Holman Barnes saga? Those pesky “innovators” and “change agents” trying to bring in fresh ideas. Cute, isn’t it? But just as wingers can’t tackle, these progressive thinkers clearly don’t belong in the trenches of corporate warfare.

Infighting: A Scrum Without the Rules

The Holman Barnes Board’s factions are like forwards and backs at a team dinner after too many beers. The FRC believe their grind deserves more respect, the while the backs insist they’re the ones scoring the metaphorical tries and the edges and lock sit on the side singing “What about me” (badly) The result? Chaos. One faction is focused on the traditional game plan—tried, tested, and slow-moving—while another advocates for bold plays that risk losing the ball entirely. And just like in every NRL game, someone’s going to end up with a black eye. Did you walk into a door Julie?

The Solution: Bring Back the Biff

The Front Rowers’ Club is a sacred space where big units with cauliflower ears unite to celebrate their indispensability.; coached to do so by the only one with some form of intelligence in the group, the Hooker (G’Day Richo). Perhaps the Holman Barnes Group needs something similar. A place where the forward-thinking strategists (pun intended) can hash things out without interference from the flashier, “big picture” types. After all, nothing resolves a corporate dispute like a little exclusivity and a lot of snacks; or being boxed around the ears by a prop!

The Final Whistle

So, are backs irrelevant? Absolutely. Just as irrelevant as the factions on the Holman Barnes Board, and die hards on this forum from both former clubs, who think their ideas matter more than teamwork. At the end of the day, it’s not about who’s right or who’s scoring—it’s about driving the business forward (pun still intended). If the board could channel even a fraction of a the FRC’s unity, they might just make progress.

Until then, the FRC will be over here, carrying the load without complaint and cheering when the edges and lock get stepped by a back or a back gets absolutely polaxed by a second rower.

When they finally realise that they need the unity of the FRC and come together on the same page – other teams will start to quiver!

Written and authorised by the Hooker on behalf of the FRC sitting on the sidelines having a beer and a laugh!

Splendid post lmao. Well written
 
I found parts of your reply patronising. Of course it’s an age thing. I’m 73, my mates are the same vintage. Your attitude to life reflects your experiences, so does mine. I loved watching the Magpies at Pratten and Lidcombe, but I wanted the JV with Balmain more than anything because it was the only way we would survive but not as the Magpies but as a new entity with two great histories as our foundation.
My one and only point here was to have a go at the posters who despite the Richo et al podcast the other day want to continue sniping at HBG saying they don’t believe them and how bad HBG have been, If we just wait until end January, we’ll know and if they don’t deliver snipe at them by all means. One scary thought for us all is that an independent board doesn’t guarantee a good board, Let’s all hope they choose well.
Well that wasn’t my intention …. I was thinking about the best way to describe my relationship to Balmain and wests magpies and I’ve come up with this analogy .
I see them as the parents who won’t stop fighting leading up to your wedding , where you turn around and say “if you don’t sort your shit out youre not coming to the wedding” .
Doesn’t mean you don’t love and appreciate them . It just means thier toxicity is going to ruin all the good times ahead .
It’s up to them at that point .
 
It's the people on a board that makes it successful nothing to do with the title of the board itself
A level of accountability can make people achieve things they didn't know they were capable of.
I don't care who, or what, or why, agitated the board into action because after thirteen seasons of failure ,- and plenty of others held accountable for that - it was about time the board started to cop the heat too.
 
Emotion and Context is the key.



If the owners are viewing it as spiteful, then to me it indicates they’re not reading the room & need to take a step back breathe and then take control which is what Richo has done.

When the original petition had reference to old Magpies die hards and includes a request for Liquor and Gaming and the minister to get involved and when discourse on here is hoping and praying for Liquor and Gaming iintervention that's spiteful.
 
Some of you guys are not going to be happy until the whole thing implodes. Then you'll wonder where the whole JV went. You heard what you want to hear and that's nothing positive could come out of Wests Ashfield. You guys are as bad as the Magpie diehards except you pretend you just want WT to succeed. I get you love Balmain but, like the Magpies, get over it.

I suppose some from the former Balmain cohort would have buried the Wests brand totally if the roles were reversed in in 2015 so it's projection and gaslighting.
 
that's the difference in our thinking. I believe they are doing something you believe they are doing nothing. Time will tell I guess.
That means you still have trust in the place . It’s probably a good thing to be honest . You haven’t been completely jaded like a lot of us .
 
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This is the kind of discourse you like to see
It’s bullshit though ! What’s the point of his post … at best it’s a straw man , realistically it’s to cause outrage , and trolling ….
I’m sick of reading it . I haven’t seen a single person identify as a Balmain fan .
So stop the pearl clutching .
Posts like that are meant to outrage and divide . They get the response they deserve
 
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Mate it is an age thing though . To say it’s not is simply not true .
I sit around with mates my age and the conversations are around the tigers being shit , and run by muppets , and we really should be a juggernaut .
I sit around at family gatherings with parents , uncles etc , and the narrative is , they never should have merged ; threw away all that tradition. Etc.
Same thing if I’m sitting in a pub , it’s those conversations followed by some rhetoric about super league ruining the sport .
Sure it’s not everyone .
But much like how our music taste , movies etc are pretty much whatever you were listening between the ages of 17-25 , so is other interests like movies , and sport .
So if you were in the plus25 bracket prior to the merge , then the transition is going to be huge for you .
It’s like when the swans make the GF , the talk is all about them being the bloods , and go South Melbourne etc. they moved in the early 80s…..
At some point the team has to be left to the younger generation to pave the way .
Whether you personally are or the people around you are , if the conversations are about Balmain or wests , than that is just your own bubble mate .
80% of fans don’t give a shit about those things mate . I’m 40 , and was a tragic Balmain fan as a kid . Used to watch re runs that my grandfather taped of games when we visited him , sometimes of things like the mid year competition from the 80s. I was like 6 maybe 7.
But that kid might as well have been another person , because I don’t relate to that much anymore outside of nostalgia of hanging around with my grandfather . (Actually great grandfather ) .
So if I feel like that , and most people my age feel like that , then anyone younger than that , is going to have even less of an attachment to the foundation clubs , moving into now where there’s no attachment to any kids.
Which is why in all that I say , you are in an echo chamber mate if you’re hearing bring back Balmain/ magpies .
Everyone on here has been anti HBG , because the team has been an abomination for a long time . That’s not a wests and Balmain thing , it’s actually a wests tigers thing .
It’s kind of sad you can’t make that distinction.

Why is age relevant.

I don't consider myself old at 55 but whether I was in my 60s, 70s, 80 or in my teens or twenties why does that make me more or less important? I am a fan and member and as one my perspective and custom should be considered important by the club.

Footy is an emotional investment. There is little logic to it as a fan.

People are drawn towards the Wests Tigers from different paths......it is relevant.

Around 75, 76 as a new supporter a mate and I in primary school went looking for books on RL history, It made it feel real and gave it an edge I was to young to understand and I'm sure it's the same for some kids today.

Increasingly seeing many sub 30 years old fans with Wests and Balmain jumpers at games. They probably see it as cool and edgy.
 
Trust was restored when Richardson was appointed. He's lasted a year and is talking enthusiastically about our future. I'm only listening to him, not social media rumours.

The relevancy of his appointment was that HBG wanted his appointment.

Other noise we're hearing is regarding possible overreach into ownership issues and an independent board which is also independent from him.
 
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Why is age relevant.

I don't consider myself old at 55 but whether I was in my 60s, 70s, 80 or in my teens or twenties why does that make me more or less important? I am a fan and member and as one my perspective and custom should be considered important by the club.

Footy is an emotional investment. There is little logic to it as a fan.

People are drawn towards the Wests Tigers from different paths......it is relevant.

Around 75, 76 as a new supporter a mate and I in primary school went looking for books on RL history, It made it feel real and gave it an edge I was to young to understand and I'm sure it's the same for some kids today.

Increasingly seeing many sub 30 years old fans with Wests and Balmain jumpers at games. They probably see it as cool and edgy.
Because it does matter , because your formative years were 10-15 years prior to when the merger happened .
So your allegiances , and lot of the things that are characteristics of yourself like music , movies , sometimes even good , art , taste in general are formed like I’ve said from about years 17-25 of your life .
So if you’ve already been through that period , it’s a lot harder to change that .
Which is why everyone playing the Balmain vs wests thing is like I said coming up to retirement or beyond …
Music is the easiest one to reference for this as it’s pretty obvious .
For me my taste is anything from the late 90s- 00s , but my missus is 2 years older and that was enough for her to be into early 90s stuff , which doesn’t resonate with me .
Just like anything from 2009 onwards , can be a chore me to establish a connection with . None of that is steadfast , people change obviously .
Its just an acknowledgement that for me , if I can’t get into a song , I realise “could be bias’ doing their thing , so I’ll give it a few goes to try and change the way I’m hearing that music “
The same logic applies to things like your footy team. Because just like music , when you listen / remember it takes you back to a certain time , and place and nostalgia kicks in .
That’s what age makes a difference. And I’ve no doubt if the merger happened in 2010 I’d be struggling with my allegiance to wests tigers as well , because I would have been through that age group where your most open to change “ .
It’s why if the wests tigers went away , I wouldn’t follow footy at all.
The period of 1998-2008 was the time for me , and everyone my age , that I was most affected by the world around me and it affected my tastes in things.
At 55 , so 15 years older than me , means that for you would have been years 1983-1993. So by the time 2000 rolls around those formative years are well behind you.
It’s not to say you can’t change , of course you can , but it’s to say hey , it’s a lot harder .
 
Well that wasn’t my intention …. I was thinking about the best way to describe my relationship to Balmain and wests magpies and I’ve come up with this analogy .
I see them as the parents who won’t stop fighting leading up to your wedding , where you turn around and say “if you don’t sort your shit out youre not coming to the wedding” .
Doesn’t mean you don’t love and appreciate them . It just means thier toxicity is going to ruin all the good times ahead .
It’s up to them at that point .
I think we can agree. I've seen it from both sides on this forum and I don't necessarily like it either. Both foundation clubs have stuffed up but we still love them and have fond memories of them. I really do think the Magpies copped the brunt of the abuse probably because of the recent poor play by HBG. I just wanted to balance the ledger but it's time to end it and move on.
I accept you at your word that you didn't intend to be condescending.
 
Because it does matter , because your formative years were 10-15 years prior to when the merger happened .
So your allegiances , and lot of the things that are characteristics of yourself like music , movies , sometimes even good , art , taste in general are formed like I’ve said from about years 17-25 of your life .
So if you’ve already been through that period , it’s a lot harder to change that .
Which is why everyone playing the Balmain vs wests thing is like I said coming up to retirement or beyond …
Music is the easiest one to reference for this as it’s pretty obvious .
For me my taste is anything from the late 90s- 00s , but my missus is 2 years older and that was enough for her to be into early 90s stuff , which doesn’t resonate with me .
Just like anything from 2009 onwards , can be a chore me to establish a connection with . None of that is steadfast , people change obviously .
Its just an acknowledgement that for me , if I can’t get into a song , I realise “could be bias’ doing their thing , so I’ll give it a few goes to try and change the way I’m hearing that music “
The same logic applies to things like your footy team. Because just like music , when you listen / remember it takes you back to a certain time , and place and nostalgia kicks in .
That’s what age makes a difference. And I’ve no doubt if the merger happened in 2010 I’d be struggling with my allegiance to wests tigers as well , because I would have been through that age group where your most open to change “ .
It’s why if the wests tigers went away , I wouldn’t follow footy at all.

I understand your point of view but don't believe it relevant in this discussion.

At the end of the day a 75 year old may be a more committed fan than a 12 year old......kids are fickle these day. One day RL the next year basketball.

But again a customer is a customer and older ones hand down their perspective to kids.

It's how the world works.
 
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I think we can agree. I've seen it from both sides on this forum and I don't necessarily like it either. Both foundation clubs have stuffed up but we still love them and have fond memories of them. I really do think the Magpies copped the brunt of the abuse probably because of the recent poor play by HBG. I just wanted to balance the ledger but it's time to end it and move on.
I accept you at your word that you didn't intend to be condescending.
Yea , but that’s just a case of “heavy is the head that wears the crown” . By having 90% ownership they’re the ones who everyone is going to come after when it goes to shit . It would be no different if it was the blue wiggle or Singo or someone . It’s evolved past prior allegiances . Which is a good thing IMO.
I honestly don’t even think wests when I say HBG. I think “guys who own the wests tigers”. And I’d say that’s the evolution for most people
Changing the name to HBG has done wonders for that . I don’t live in Sydney anymore , so that makes it easier as well
 
I understand your point of view but don't believe it relevant in this discussion.

At the end of the day a 75 year old may be a more committed fan than a 12 year old......kids are fickle these day. One day RL the next year basketball.

But again a customer is a customer and older ones hand down their perspective to kids.

It's how the world works.
What ? The 12 year old kid compared to a 75 year old aren’t relevant . There’s no correlation …..
It’s literally about the Individual ie. you . And me . And how now as middle aged men , we have formed a lot of our tastes , in fact most , by the time we turned 25-30.
It’s not a competition. It’s about understanding your own bias’ and understanding how your brain is sending signals to affect you emotionally about things “
If you don’t belive me , you just have to google it and there’s a million articles on this . Neuroscientists , psychologists, psychiatrists whatever .
Anyways all i was trying to say is I get how you can feel the way you feel . But I’m also trying to let you know this is why everyone from my age and younger feels a different way .
Which is why age is super important . And by age I mean you have to have been there at a certain point .
Like you could be the same age as me and be from a tribe in Amazon rain forest , so things like 9-11 arnt going to have the same affect on you that they will on me . Obviously .
Just like the mergers arnt going to affect my missus or most women my age , because they don’t care .
It’s obviously relative .
 
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