Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[BAGNF05]

We have fair injection in the forwards be disappointed if they don't play better than the ones that left.

On paper we aren’t much better in the pack. I think the confidence and enthusiasm that will come from our backs might lead to better go forward.

 

[BAGNF05]

ciraldo brought defensive structures from Penrith

He’s a defense oriented coach

Benji is the opposite

We have the same defense coach and head coach as last year

We’re screwed

Players should have learned defense before they arrive in first grade. Benji’s job is to get the group connected so they play with more desire in D.

 

[Lestronge]

Sydney Roosters chair Nick Politis has declared that he would tear up the contract of any player on his roster if they are caught using illicit substances such as cocaine. 😃😃😃

Would Politis' “zero tolerance” drug policy work in the NRL?

“I’m quite happy with this stance."

www.sen.com.au

I’d say that there was a culture of drug use that had been simmering away at the roosters for a while . It may not have been a prob previous years with “acceptable “ performances and finishing positions . But with the constant failure in the finals , the roosters management and coaching staff would have been looking for answers/ scapegoats , and this would have been one .
As no one was caught for anything , my guess , is they would have looked to offload players that are easier to replace , and more so anyone who didn’t fit into the “roosters” way . So May and Smith out you go .
I think it’s horseshit anyway as Angus Chricton was about to be shafted if the roosters landed Fifita .
But I guess people fall for this “roosters way”/ faux loyalty , as it’s still spouted as a thing . Ask Lattrell and Hodges , and others who didn’t fit into there , guys who have a lesser profile .
It’s definitely a case of “what have you done for me lately” . Not too many players are kept there who fall out of form .
For good and bad , they’re not suffering a Chris McQueen in reserve grade.

 

[tigermate]

Players should have learned defense before they arrive in first grade. Benji’s job is to get the group connected so they play with more desire in D.

lol.

If you think a head coaches job is just to get players motivated to play for them you’re in the clouds (respectfully)

Every team has a different defensive structure and it’s no coincidence that the best defensive teams all talk about working on their defensive structures.

 

[BAGNF05]

lol.

If you think a head coaches job is just to get players motivated to play for them you’re in the clouds (respectfully)

Every team has a different defensive structure and it’s no coincidence that the best defensive teams all talk about working on their defensive structures.

What exactly do sides do differently? I’m interested in what you think the main different structures are.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

What exactly do sides do differently? I’m interested in what you think the main different structures are.

It starts with culture. DNA. Melbourne have figured it out. Us, not so much.

 

[BAGNF05]

It starts with culture. DNA. Melbourne have figured it out. Us, not so much.

Agree. It’s an attitude much more so than x’s and o’s.

 

[batboy]

Agree. It’s an attitude much more so than x’s and o’s.

My thoughts have always been once we lost the likes of Galea, O'Neill etc. the attitude that's built our Culture is 'Chuck the ball to Benji and he'll work it out'
Ellis bought some of that ruthless attitude back, And was a real leader of men (which got us out of trouble for those couple years)

Problem was on the back of Benjiball, We had the best kids going around as well
- So they never had to worry about developing a defensive attitude either.

It's so deflating, The truth is - We're soft.
It's in the walls of the joint - I was hoping Madge could steel us up a bit.

Hopefully these new guys have bought it with em, because I didn't see much of it last year either.

 

[Vicious]

My thoughts have always been once we lost the likes of Galea, O'Neill etc. the attitude that's built our Culture is 'Chuck the ball to Benji and he'll work it out'
Ellis bought some of that ruthless attitude back, And was a real leader of men (which got us out of trouble for those couple years)

Problem was on the back of Benjiball, We had the best kids going around as well
- So they never had to worry about developing a defensive attitude either.

It's so deflating, The truth is - We're soft.
It's in the walls of the joint - I was hoping Madge could steel us up a bit.

Hopefully these new guys have bought it with em, because I didn't see much of it last year either.

There is no guarantee our teams defence will be any better than last season, but there’s also a chance it will be much improved.
Defence is a mindset and the resolve largely comes from a team knowing they will be rewarded with scoring points down the other end and winning games if they show enough defensive resolve.
The team leaders are the ones that drive confidence and you would like to think the overall confidence of the team will be much higher with Jerome Luai on board, along with our other well regarded recruits and our emerging young players all being a year older and wiser.
I believe if the team gels, we get a bit of luck with no long term injuries to key players we can quite easily make the top 8, but if things start to go pear shaped we could also end up with another spoon.

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

My thoughts have always been once we lost the likes of Galea, O'Neill etc. the attitude that's built our Culture is 'Chuck the ball to Benji and he'll work it out'
Ellis bought some of that ruthless attitude back, And was a real leader of men (which got us out of trouble for those couple years)

Problem was on the back of Benjiball, We had the best kids going around as well
- So they never had to worry about developing a defensive attitude either.

It's so deflating, The truth is - We're soft.
It's in the walls of the joint - I was hoping Madge could steel us up a bit.

Hopefully these new guys have bought it with em, because I didn't see much of it last year either.

Small number of green shoots in attack and that's about it if the new guys don't create change get ready for another deflating season all of us praying this doesn't happen.

 

[Oldman]

The drama is that the only real advantage the Tigers have in talks with Galvin is that they can increase his salary now. He'll be on peanuts for 2025 and 2026 as it's the same contract he signed before he played first grade, but if the Tigers extend him they'll (presumably) tear up that contract and replace it with one where he starts making good money right away. By not taking that, Galvin is effectively saying that he's willing to sacrifice money now for the advantages waiting gives - of which by far the biggest one is seeing what other clubs have to offer. And if that's his mindset I'd say he's as good as gone.

What about he (Galvin) is actually doing what he has said and waiting to see how the Tigers are performing this year before signing any upgrade or extensions
My point is he is gambling on he gets through this year injury free and in form and the big money offers might come after November.
If he does an ACL no offers might come along.

 

[teddy23]

This isn’t mail or anything - but I find it highly highly unlikely that Galvin re-signs with us.

The way he has acted throughout the last 12 months screams someone waiting for his contract to end so he can go elsewhere.

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

This isn’t mail or anything - but I find it highly highly unlikely that Galvin re-signs with us.

The way he has acted throughout the last 12 months screams someone waiting for his contract to end so he can go elsewhere.

Few of us on here are over it already teddy if he doesn't want to stay don't let the door break your arse on the way out.

 

[tigermate]

What exactly do sides do differently? I’m interested in what you think the main different structures are.

there are different styles of defensive systems

Like up and in vs slide.

What the markers do - how they split and how the inside man covers

Listen to Willy mason talk about the ciraldo system of defense and he talks about how they do these things.

Every team has a different structure.

If they didn’t - every coach would know exactly how the other teams defends.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

This isn’t mail or anything - but I find it highly highly unlikely that Galvin re-signs with us.

The way he has acted throughout the last 12 months screams someone waiting for his contract to end so he can go elsewhere.

All signs point that way

- Not taking an upgrade for this year
- Already asking for a release multiple times
- His tamper tantrum
- The old “I’m just focusing on footy” crap

There’s nothing in the pros column to indicate him staying.

 

[Vicious]

This isn’t mail or anything - but I find it highly highly unlikely that Galvin re-signs with us.

The way he has acted throughout the last 12 months screams someone waiting for his contract to end so he can go elsewhere.

I think it’s blatantly obvious that he’s wanting to be part of a successful team and if we show we are a top 8 team or on the doorstep of the top 8 and his own form continues on an upwards trajectory, he will definitely re-sign with us.
It’s just reality that nobody wants to be stuck in a team that continually finishes on or close to the bottom of the ladder, so a successful season is paramount in keeping our best players moving forward.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I think it’s blatantly obvious that he’s wanting to be part of a successful team and if we show we are a top 8 team or on the doorstep of the top 8 and his own form continues on an upwards trajectory, he will definitely re-sign with us.

Mate, he’ll want to be in a PREMIERSHIP winning team, and be at a club that is in the best possible position for that. The same as Tedesco. Winning a couple games and scraping into the 8 isn’t going to cut it when actual contenders come calling and can guarantee him playing finals and having a tilt at a premiership, every single year.

 

[Oldman]

I think it’s blatantly obvious that he’s wanting to be part of a successful team and if we show we are a top 8 team or on the doorstep of the top 8 and his own form continues on an upwards trajectory, he will definitely re-sign with us.
It’s just reality that nobody wants to be stuck in a team that continually finishes on or close to the bottom of the ladder, so a successful season is paramount in keeping our best players moving forward.

100%

 

[Telltails]

We are different team to last year. You need to wait and see what happens on the field before predicting what you think might happen with Galvin.
He will have options that is about the only thing anyone can be sure of at this point.

 

[Vicious]

Mate, he’ll want to be in a PREMIERSHIP winning team, and be at a club that is in the best possible position for that. The same as Tedesco. Winning a couple games and scraping into the 8 isn’t going to cut it when actual contenders come calling and can guarantee him playing finals and having a tilt at a premiership, every single year.

Well the Roosters are not a team on the upward trajectory, so he’s barking up the wrong tree and setting himself up to be the scapegoat if he goes there.