Who here actually supports Western Suburbs in the KOE NSW Cup?

[batboy]

No you're wrong. The disunity is apparent to everyone bar a few dinosaurs to which you are closely allied.

The magpies will still exist, in junior pathways, which is their role in Wests Tigers. Developing juniors and grassroots connections.

Playing at Lidcombe (regularly, a one off heritage round is fine) is an insult to members and fans and players

Wasting your time man,
The warped sense of reasoning and hypocrisy of this mob knows no bounds!!
There's zero reasoning in argument they try to conjure up.

Listen to the idiots bang on about the Wests Tigers ignoring the South West, Then they rebrand the reserve grade side the Magpies (the South Wests Senior team) to please a few old Magpie fans
- Then play them out of the Inner West to please a few (Even Older) Magpies fans.

The geography alone of it all leads you directly to the idiots making these decisions.

If the HBG claims the South West is the Future of the Wests Tigers - maybe play their senior team out there would be a good start.

And that's just one of their bottomless arguments.

 

[batboy]

Yes, there aren't thousands of people queing up to watch these games. Some NRL games only get 5-6k. However they get a bigger crowd when playing before the NRL match. And those fans that are there develop a stronger bond to the club.
But the biggest benefit isn't about the fans, it's about the players being part of one club, where they can move up and play multiple grades throughout the day. Having 3 matches in 3 separate locations just creates division and isolation

Said it here a while back,
I spoke to someone I knew who was in the Lower Grade Pathways - They beamed when they said they're playing for the Wests Tigers (Which whilst not a lie, Wasn't exactly how it was).

That's what our Junior kids need,
The Same Name - The Same Colours, Same Song - All of it.
Stupid not to have it.

I don't know how you'd separate the Inner West and Outer Wests Juniors, Only thing I could come up with is exactly that - Inner Wests Tigers or Outer Wests Tigers.
Had a thought of Wests Tigers Black and Wests Tigers Gold a while back.
Anyhow, It's not my job - Club has had 30 years to work it out.

I think there'd be more far more people that wish they were watching Wests Tigers in any other level than punters wishing they were watching Magpies or Balmain.
For very much the same reason.

 

[Dr_Ice]

Yes, there aren't thousands of people queing up to watch these games. Some NRL games only get 5-6k. However they get a bigger crowd when playing before the NRL match. And those fans that are there develop a stronger bond to the club.
But the biggest benefit isn't about the fans, it's about the players being part of one club, where they can move up and play multiple grades throughout the day. Having 3 matches in 3 separate locations just creates division and isolation

Agree with the benefit for the players.

My point was more that you regularly hear how everyone misses not seeing more than one game on NRL days however when they do it very few fans are there to watch the earlier games

 

[balmain boy]

Agree with the benefit for the players.

My point was more that you regularly hear how everyone misses not seeing more than one game on NRL days however when they do it very few fans are there to watch the earlier games

But those who do go are the very core and heart of the club. Those who give more than just a couple of hours a week following the team, those with a vested interest to the club in its entirety. The ones willing and able to spend their time and/or money following the club. Keeping these members happy should always be at the forefront of a successful club. Bandwagoners will come and go, die hards will endure.

 

[Honkylips]

Yes, there aren't thousands of people queing up to watch these games. Some NRL games only get 5-6k. However they get a bigger crowd when playing before the NRL match. And those fans that are there develop a stronger bond to the club.
But the biggest benefit isn't about the fans, it's about the players being part of one club, where they can move up and play multiple grades throughout the day. Having 3 matches in 3 separate locations just creates division and isolation

Its not every week the Magpies play the same day as the WT. Sleep easy, there will be quite a few games where the Magpie players will be able to join in on WT game day. There isn't anything wrong with having the Magpies as our KOE side.

 

[Glenji95]

Its not every week the Magpies play the same day as the WT. Sleep easy, there will be quite a few games where the Magpie players will be able to join in on WT game day. There isn't anything wrong with having the Magpies as our KOE side.

I don’t think in this case BB was referring to the Magpies themselves being the KOE side. (Although I think he’s said we should be Wests Tigers in KOE as well which I agree with personally but that’s another issue) it’s the fact that we aren’t committing all our home games to one ground when we have a home game that round. I know there will be some games where the KOE side will play before the first grade team does on that day, but if we’re playing a home game we should be playing at the one venue rather then have our KOE side play at a different home venue on a different day to the first grade side does.

 

[Merlot]

I don’t think in this case BB was referring to the Magpies themselves being the KOE side. (Although I think he’s said we should be Wests Tigers in KOE as well which I agree with personally but that’s another issue) it’s the fact that we aren’t committing all our home games to one ground when we have a home game that round. I know there will be some games where the KOE side will play before the first grade team does on that day, but if we’re playing a home game we should be playing at the one venue rather then have our KOE side play at a different home venue on a different day to the first grade side does.

Nrl stated a decade ago 3 grades on 1 day basically wont happen again .Broke councils avoiding culpability, Think of the dramas Manly had about the divets some time back. 2 much info,i worked on Parra stadium replacing the turf ,2nd time in Oz ,MCG was 1st,they copped crap. All modern fields are built of sand stabilized on small squares of ,remember ,orange bag mesh,.Not made from ,James Reyne had a song ,concrete n clay any more,just cant cop the traffic

 

[Needaname]

In my mind, the closest playing style I’ve seen to Benji’s is Luai’s. The stand out (comparison wise) is the repetitive left foot step and the slick passing. You’re right about Galvin, there’s more physicality in his tackle evasion, more forceful contact. Like you would see from a back rower. No way was I comparing playing styles, rather the skills involved to fit in with a teams playing styles. I still think Benji could have been better utilised if the rest of the team knew what he was doing at least half the time.

I was going to say Luai as well.
I see Luai as a more competitive less flamboyant version of Benji.
Kinda a merge of a Thurston and Benji. Least I hope anyway.

 

[Glenji95]

Nrl stated a decade ago 3 grades on 1 day basically wont happen again .Broke councils avoiding culpability, Think of the dramas Manly had about the divets some time back. 2 much info,i worked on Parra stadium replacing the turf ,2nd time in Oz ,MCG was 1st,they copped crap. All modern fields are built of sand stabilized on small squares of ,remember ,orange bag mesh,.Not made from ,James Reyne had a song ,concrete n clay any more,just cant cop the traffic.

I remember back in 23 the start of the season round 1 and 2 Flegg, KOE and first grade were all played at Leichhardt. That clearly wasn't a decade ago. Not saying you were wrong but clearly it was allowed so I can’t see why they can’t continue to do that. If the idea is to show unity and build a club, then that’s how you achieve it, not by playing home games at different venues on different days.

 

[Merlot]

I remember back in 23 the start of the season round 1 and 2 Flegg, KOE and first grade were all played at Leichhardt. That clearly wasn't a decade ago. Not saying you were wrong but clearly it was allowed so I can’t see why they can’t continue to do that. If the idea is to show unity and build a club, then that’s how you achieve it, not by playing home games at different venues on different days.

2023 ,round 1 ,2 is how it should be every week.Nrl dont help having an hour between lower n 1st; .Dump lower grades on f tel ,free 2 air,there was some really good shows about 6 years ago .We all getting funneled into data usage.How the kids navigate that world ,splits my brain

 

[Needaname]

I understand the arguments, valid points but I think it is more of an issue for us at the moment as a perennial bottom dweller than it would be for other clubs. As mentioned it’s about perception to the players but it’s also weak culturally for these lower graders to respond the way mentioned.
If we were to have a top 4 side. The attitude of the players would not be oh I have to go play for another club entirely in front of some dinosaurs that are no longer relevant. The attitude should be Fk I lost my spot I’m going to work hard in the team below to get it back. And as for aspiring juniors. They have a chance to don the famous black and white jersey and represent at least for a time until they can prove themselves first graders.
As far as having players split across multiple grounds.
I think that should be managed better by our coaching staff.
there should be a relegation promotion list within our squad that identifies a hierarchy of each player, each position. That way they can be involved as an extended squad member up until game day. Most Sydney games still allow for plenty of time for our up and coming players to sit on the pine for 80mins and not play a minute whilst being able to back up in the lower game the following day. Lots of teams did this. In fact a lot of our games last year that had back to back games at the same ground, we actually had less flexibility to pick our best squad. Players would be playing for the magpies and have to finish at half time. After having a decent game have to spend the next 80mins as player 18 or 19 and have limited involvement. Playing on different days is a benefit to this.
The concept isn’t foreign to other NRL teams.
I remember last year thinking a team like the Jets. Looking at their team lists each week and not 1 of the players would have been in the sharks top 30.
At least it seemed that way.
Side note; the recent plan to bring back a national under 21s may just put all this rubbish to bed.
They would be our direct feed to our NRL game day 17.

 

[Merlot]

I understand the arguments, valid points but I think it is more of an issue for us at the moment as a perennial bottom dweller than it would be for other clubs. As mentioned it’s about perception to the players but it’s also weak culturally for these lower graders to respond the way mentioned.
If we were to have a top 4 side. The attitude of the players would not be oh I have to go play for another club entirely in front of some dinosaurs that are no longer relevant. The attitude should be Fk I lost my spot I’m going to work hard in the team below to get it back. And as for aspiring juniors. They have a chance to don the famous black and white jersey and represent at least for a time until they can prove themselves first graders.
As far as having players split across multiple grounds.
I think that should be managed better by our coaching staff.
there should be a relegation promotion list within our squad that identifies a hierarchy of each player, each position. That way they can be involved as an extended squad member up until game day. Most Sydney games still allow for plenty of time for our up and coming players to sit on the pine for 80mins and not play a minute whilst being able to back up in the lower game the following day. Lots of teams did this. In fact a lot of our games last year that had back to back games at the same ground, we actually had less flexibility to pick our best squad. Players would be playing for the magpies and have to finish at half time. After having a decent game have to spend the next 80mins as player 18 or 19 and have limited involvement. Playing on different days is a benefit to this.
The concept isn’t foreign to other NRL teams.
I remember last year thinking a team like the Jets. Looking at their team lists each week and not 1 of the players would have been in the sharks top 30.
At least it seemed that way.
Side note; the recent plan to bring back a national under 21s may just put all this rubbish to bed.
They would be our direct feed to our NRL game day 17.

part of the modern day structure, is, you cant play a kid in his age group , up a grade next match n maybe the game after.They could be off in a different country,Or not playing in their division because they are sat out a game across town ,just in case their needed

 

[Needaname]

part of the modern day structure, is, you cant play a kid in his age group , up a grade next match n maybe the game after.They could be off in a different country,Or not playing in their division because they are sat out a game across town ,just in case their needed

The game isn’t as restricted like that these days. Its an old way of thinking.

 

[Merlot]

The game isn’t as restricted like that these days. Its an old way of thinking.

please explain

 

[gallagher]

Side note; the recent plan to bring back a national under 21s may just put all this rubbish to bed.
They would be our direct feed to our NRL game day 17.

Looks like there is something in today's tele about this behind a pay wall. Going back to full u20s draw that mirrors the NRL would be ideal for have day experience but I'm not sure where that leaves the women's games. Stand alone I guess.

 

[Needaname]

Looks like there is something in today's tele about this behind a pay wall. Going back to full u20s draw that mirrors the NRL would be ideal for have day experience but I'm not sure where that leaves the women's games. Stand alone I guess.

I think it will be under 21s
Not sure, but I reckon it will accommodated the way it is now only for the first half of the round the 21s replace the cup games that are played before.
I can’t remember entirely if the games back in 2017 matches the same program as the NRL

 

[balmain boy]

I think it will be under 21s
Not sure, but I reckon it will accommodated the way it is now only for the first half of the round the 21s replace the cup games that are played before.
I can’t remember entirely if the games back in 2017 matches the same program as the NRL

They made it so NYC was (nearly) always before NRL to save on costs for camera crews production costs etc

 

[Glenji95]

They made it so NYC was (nearly) always before NRL to save on costs for camera crews production costs etc

From what I found the NYC game was exactly mirrored to the first grade draw and was always the game played prior to the first grade side. I imagine it’ll be that way again if it’s coming back.

 

[Buttface]

Nrl stated a decade ago 3 grades on 1 day basically wont happen again .Broke councils avoiding culpability, Think of the dramas Manly had about the divets some time back. 2 much info,i worked on Parra stadium replacing the turf ,2nd time in Oz ,MCG was 1st,they copped crap. All modern fields are built of sand stabilized on small squares of ,remember ,orange bag mesh,.Not made from ,James Reyne had a song ,concrete n clay any more,just cant cop the traffic

I wish I could decipher that post. There might be some gold in that one?

How does playing 3 grades on game day send the council broke?

Are you some kind of grounds keeper Merlot?

Is James on your crew?

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

I wish I could decipher that post. There might be some gold in that one?

How does playing 3 grades on game day send the council broke?

Are you some kind of grounds keeper Merlot?

Is James on your crew?

Be kind mate, he might have been enjoying a couple of beers last night, nothing wrong with that.