David Klemmer #264

batboy said:
Their juniors have been going well for years,
Maybe they're looking to invest in them finally and change the narrative?

Personally, I think they're looking to blow it all up - Lost a lot of blokes and Teddy is on the back end of it... They might be down for a year, But it's not for no reason
- They're too clever. It's planned, Fair chance they'll go whack, whack, whack at some point and really make some moves in the market.

That Toia is special.
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They got Reece Robson coming in.

Toia looked like a seasoned first grader.
Big future.

He's got a few relatives around, I believe.
Seen a few Toias in the game of late.
 
Demps said:
They got Reece Robson coming in.

Toia looked like a seasoned first grader.
Big future.

He's got a few relatives around, I believe.
Seen a few Toias in the game of late.
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Scary - Looks like anything can happen every time he got the ball.
Had a lot of bad luck last few years, Might be why they weren't to worried with replacing Suali?
 
Winston Churchill said:
He would have had zero impact on attack as he hits the line and flops harder than a woke Disney film but you can bet there would have been less missed tackles for the game. Would that equate to a win when you have 300 missed tackles in 80 mins, maybe.
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Thats Klemmer.Bog average with the ball,but not loose in defence like ..say Pole.
And were at the stage where we need tight defence upfront,and allow the halves to do their thing in attack
So matbe we do win..but its a challenge to motivate him after the events of the past month or two
 
If you look at the replay of the Knights last try there were 5 or 6 missed tackles before Pole came from across the field to stop their 2nd rower (I think) just over the half way mark, then Bird didnt lay a hand on their winger who scored in the corner....That try was all about lazy and tired D...Klemmer would not have stopped that he would've been sucking in the big ones backfield.....
 
No, but I actually think Bateman would have made a big difference. While not a dominant tackler, he is energetic, loves the tough stuff and has decent speed for a 2nd rower and has no trouble going 80 mins. Seyfarth is tired, slow, weak and uncoordinated. We really lacked a strong edge presence there on Friday.

I don't think papalii or Klemmer would have made a difference, and we were so much better off replacing Stefano with May.
 
clontarfkid said:
Thats Klemmer.Bog average with the ball,but not loose in defence like ..say Pole.
And were at the stage where we need tight defence upfront,and allow the halves to do their thing in attack
So matbe we do win..but its a challenge to motivate him after the events of the past month or two
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Look, he is gone.

With the way we treated him, I get it and I would be too. It's not a recoverable situation.
I hope Benji doesn't regularly flick people like this.

That said, Klemmer could have worked on his playing style a little more. Quicker play the balls would have meant he wouldn't disjoint our defense.
 
Maybe we win, maybe we don't.

However, we play 5 middle forwards each game and he is in the Top 3 at this club at this stage.

Regardless of his Dragons situation, he should have played. You play your best available 17 each week no exceptions.
 
Think KLEMMER has to take some blame in this crap , he can see that the club is trying to save a bit of money to buy more players , NOW he was asked to take less money and maybe a year longer contract but he refused , o.k the club gave him that contract but sometimes u just got to give and take , and he’s been on really good money for the last 8 odd years
 
Official now , Klemmer gone
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Poorly handled by our club from the start with stupid contract and money
Great player .
Moving on now for 1 year seems weird he could have dug in but didn’t , hope he goes well as he always put in and had almost zero support from Steph and co , good get for the dragons .
Now who do we sign as we need
Prop , Centre , Backrower
 
426Tlgerland said:
Official now , Klemmer gone
Overview
Poorly handled by our club from the start with stupid contract and money
Great player .
Moving on now for 1 year seems weird he could have dug in but didn’t , hope he goes well as he always put in and had almost zero support from Steph and co , good get for the dragons .
Now who do we sign as we need
Prop , Centre , Backrower
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I don’t understand that narrative ? The clause was agreed to by all parties , to allow the club an opportunity to get out of, because there were question marks around whether his performances were going to be good enough for a renewed 650k contract .
He was told early in the offseason that guys had gone past him in the pecking order , and his spot wasn’t guaranteed , to allow him time to make a decision about his future . He chose to leave , like most would .
Where’s the failure ?
We just saw a player get out of a contract he signed last year , to sign 150km up the road .
We ourselves lost a player just recently because of a stupid get out clause .
These things are in the contract for a reason .
The shit thing to do would be , to not let klemmer know , play him every second game , and watch his value tumble , where his only option would be SL come the end of the season .
Not giving a player what they want , is not mismanagement. It’s just bad news . It’s not different to someone telling you you’re redundant .
 
batboy said:
You don't remember how Flanagan re-built the Sharks
By getting in a few experienced players that he could get another club to carry some freight on.
Doing the same a the Dragons.
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I don’t think that’s the case with the Klemmer.
He has been with us 6 months so is already paid half his yearly salary. Dragons have signed him for $300,000 for this year only. Tigers can’t be kicking anything for that deal.
Sure Flanno has picked up an experienced forward for $300,000.
We on the other hand have dropped that $300,000 from the second half of our cap and don’t have to pay the reported $600,000 next year.
 
Needaname said:
I don’t think that’s the case with the Klemmer.
He has been with us 6 months so is already paid half his yearly salary. Dragons have signed him for $300,000 for this year only. Tigers can’t be kicking anything for that deal.
Sure Flanno has picked up an experienced forward for $300,000.
We on the other hand have dropped that $300,000 from the second half of our cap and don’t have to pay the reported $600,000 next year.
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The issue will be how we fill that roster spot IMO. Whilst I think it’s the right thing for the club to let him go , we clearly need a centre and an edge forward , which arnt currently in the club . Thats looking hopefully like Taylan May , and ___? . I guess we just have to be patient until about round 10 , when guys who thought they’d be starting in nrl , aren’t , and are looking for a new opportunity .
I saw Benji rejected Matto … I mean if he wasn’t such a cancer of a bloke that’s the kid of placeholder we need , someone who’s probably got 2 years left who can do enough to hold back Phoenix Godinet to allow him time to develop .
Because I think that edge will be taken by him come 2027 .
 
Lestronge said:
I don’t understand that narrative ? The clause was agreed to by all parties , to allow the club an opportunity to get out of, because there were question marks around whether his performances were going to be good enough for a renewed 650k contract .
He was told early in the offseason that guys had gone past him in the pecking order , and his spot wasn’t guaranteed , to allow him time to make a decision about his future . He chose to leave , like most would .
Where’s the failure ?
We just saw a player get out of a contract he signed last year , to sign 150km up the road .
We ourselves lost a player just recently because of a stupid get out clause .
These things are in the contract for a reason .
The shit thing to do would be , to not let klemmer know , play him every second game , and watch his value tumble , where his only option would be SL come the end of the season .
Not giving a player what they want , is not mismanagement. It’s just bad news . It’s not different to someone telling you you’re redundant .
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I don't understand the narrative either, especially how the club is at fault for letting him go. Part of it seems that people believe that if you're going to let someone go, you immediately would have a replacement to fill the role. I don't think the opportunities to fire and replace often line up, and not always lead to good replacements but people think they should.
 
rihannafan1 said:
I don't understand the narrative either, especially how the club is at fault for letting him go. Part of it seems that people believe that if you're going to let someone go, you immediately would have a replacement to fill the role. I don't think the opportunities to fire and replace often line up, and not always lead to good replacements but people think they should.
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Yea I agree . I get what people are concerned about though . At the very least he offered a safe middle, so we definitely have lost an old head in the squad . I thought the mention of Blake Lawrie as an end of the rotation middle / starter for NSW cup was a good idea . He’s an old head who’s relatively cheap , and can fill the void left by klemmer . But once again if he wants multiple years or a top 30 , that’s really stretching the friendship I think .
a middle rotation of May , pole , hunt , twal and Fainu , is fairly strong nrl prop rotation . Lots of variance as well . It just falls off real quick . Hopefully Kit and someone else can play well in reserve grade and put real pressure on the nrl team to drive standards .
 
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