Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Kelce68 said:
Kautoga and Tuilagi would have to be a couple of the worst defensive second rowers currently in NRL rotation.

Absolutely hilariously bad without the ball.

.....and they're both at the Eels. Lol.
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Katoga's also got feet for hands, doesn't matter how good a ball runner you are if we can't get the ball to you
 
Going into a Bryce Cartwright like deal would be panicking for me and reeks of mistakes we have made over and over with recruitment. Our back row is dire but I would prefer to hold off, cover as well as possible from within the squad and wait for the right player. Think Sione Fainu would slot into the back row if there is an injury.
 
Betterdays22 said:
Going into a Bryce Cartwright like deal would be panicking for me and reeks of mistakes we have made over and over with recruitment. Our back row is dire but I would prefer to hold off, cover as well as possible from within the squad and wait for the right player. Think Sione Fainu would slot into the back row if there is an injury.
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Tough one. A Jacob Laban or Dylan Egan who are both 20yo and have exciting futures ahead would be good however Samuela is only young too so Benji may wish to recruit a solid, effort-based, experienced backrower to put pressure on Seyfarth immediately.

I think Jacob Host may be a possibility ...

1 Edge backrower who can also cover middle;
2 Down the pecking order at the Rabbits who may wish to offload him asap if the Brandon Smith deal comes off;
3 Provides experience (did play in the GF with Souths a few seasons back) and would not be seen as holding up future pathway of a Godinet type.
4 2 year deal max for approx $300k pa. He's only contracted at Souths this year.
 
Hopefully we get an injury report from the club this week.

These are the players missing from action this week including some of our key Cup & Flegg players.

-Brent Naden (knee) Round 7.
-Justin Olam (knee) TBC, possible medical retirement.
-Luke Laulilii (rumoured concussion) TBC, forum poster mentioned out for 12 weeks about 5 weeks ago.
-Justin Matamua (not named in any grade this week)
-Eiden Ackland - train & trial (not named in any grade this or last week) TBC
-Cameron Kanaan (off season shoulder surgery from a forum poster a while back) TBC
-Jekope Sovau (hasn't played since trials) TBC

In pathways great to see Logan Brookes named for Balmain SG Ball this week but Siotame Havea Jr continues to miss for Wests Harold Matts (been out about a month now).
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
Tough one. A Jacob Laban or Dylan Egan who are both 20yo and have exciting futures ahead would be good however Samuela is only young too so Benji may wish to recruit a solid, effort-based, experienced backrower to put pressure on Seyfarth immediately.

I think Jacob Host may be a possibility ...

1 Edge backrower who can also cover middle;
2 Down the pecking order at the Rabbits who may wish to offload him asap if the Brandon Smith deal comes off;
3 Provides experience (did play in the GF with Souths a few seasons back) and would not be seen as holding up future pathway of a Godinet type.
4 2 year deal max for approx $300k pa. He's only contracted at Souths this year.
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I think we're beyond plodders at this stage. Seyfarth offers the same, with arguably more versatility, at a younger age.

It's either a topliner or close to topliner or a young bloke on the fringe looking for a start. I don't see anybody usurping Seyfarth unless they're a clear upgrade.

And that's not a compliment to Alex.

....We need an upgrade on the edge as a matter of urgency.
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
Hopefully we get an injury report from the club this week.

These are the players missing from action this week including some of our key Cup & Flegg players.

-Brent Naden (knee) Round 7.
-Justin Olam (knee) TBC, possible medical retirement.
-Luke Laulilii (rumoured concussion) TBC, forum poster mentioned out for 12 weeks about 5 weeks ago.
-Justin Matamua (not named in any grade this week)
-Eiden Ackland - train & trial (not named in any grade this or last week) TBC
-Cameron Kanaan (off season shoulder surgery from a forum poster a while back) TBC
-Jekope Sovau (hasn't played since trials) TBC

In pathways great to see Logan Brookes named for Balmain SG Ball this week but Siotame Havea Jr continues to miss for Wests Harold Matts (been out about a month now).
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Brookes alone will be a huge in for a side that is flying at 5 -1.
 
Jolls said:
The point was that as he matured as a player he went from a low of mid 80% to averaging 90% over consecutive seasons. Even last year he was just below 90%. He was also pretty good in defence when he first came into grade and went downhill a bit at the Titans.

On the other side of the pill he still has a mistake in him with ball in hand. I feel there is more upside than down with him though. He has experneice and is proven NRL quality that wouldn't break the bank and would shore up our depth.
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I kind of like how we have passed on these types of players.

The mentality previously was if this guy can recapture his best form, then he'll be good for us. It usually ends in disappointment.

Now we have bought guys that just do what they have always done. No surprises. I think we just stick with buying guys that will give us what it says in the tin.
 
Kelce68 said:
on I think we're beyond plodders at this stage. Seyfarth offers the same, with arguably more versatility, at a younger age.

It's either a topliner or close to topliner or a young bloke on the fringe looking for a start. I don't see anybody usurping Seyfarth unless they're a clear upgrade.

And that's not a compliment to Alex.

....We need an upgrade on the edge as a matter of urgency.
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It's stating the obvious but from a recruitment perspective we are still an unknown quantity. At the moment, guys like Host and Cartwright may be the level of recruit we can manage and probably could manage regardless how well the club is going on the field. But, If we can back ourselves to show by May-June that the side is more than competitive and the "vibes" are good, it will increase our chances of landing a topliner or hot prospect 10x.

Patience is key.
 
Kelce68 said:
I think we're beyond plodders at this stage. Seyfarth offers the same, with arguably more versatility, at a younger age.

It's either a topliner or close to topliner or a young bloke on the fringe looking for a start. I don't see anybody usurping Seyfarth unless they're a clear upgrade.

And that's not a compliment to Alex.

....We need an upgrade on the edge as a matter of urgency.
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Don't get me wrong, yes we need an upgrade on the edge but we aren't going to get one for this season unless a miracle drops from the tree.

A Jacob Host would provide depth for 2 seasons & would be much better to vie with Seyfarth for the right edge this year than a Porter, Sukkar, Sione Fainu or Tumeth.

Then he can drop back to depth next season once we recruit a Kai Pearce-Paul or Jordan Riki for next year!!!
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
Tough one. A Jacob Laban or Dylan Egan who are both 20yo and have exciting futures ahead would be good however Samuela is only young too so Benji may wish to recruit a solid, effort-based, experienced backrower to put pressure on Seyfarth immediately.

I think Jacob Host may be a possibility ...

1 Edge backrower who can also cover middle;
2 Down the pecking order at the Rabbits who may wish to offload him asap if the Brandon Smith deal comes off;
3 Provides experience (did play in the GF with Souths a few seasons back) and would not be seen as holding up future pathway of a Godinet type.
4 2 year deal max for approx $300k pa. He's only contracted at Souths this year.
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we should've swapped Klemmer for Egan. he is far too good to remain in reserve grade. had his first game of the year on the weekend and ran up the following

80 minutes
1 try
1 linebreak
9 runs for 96 metres
39 tackles for 0 missed
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
Don't get me wrong, yes we need an upgrade on the edge but we aren't going to get one for this season unless a miracle drops from the tree.

A Jacob Host would provide depth for 2 seasons & would be much better to vie with Seyfarth for the right edge this year than a Porter, Sukkar, Sione Fainu or Tumeth.

Then he can drop back to depth next season once we recruit a Kai Pearce-Paul or Jordan Riki for next year!!!
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He is providing that depth to Souths now..they picked him on their extended bench this week …why would they let him go to become depth for us ? Iit would be like us letting say Mason go
 
Tom Shines said:
He is providing that depth to Souths now..they picked him on their extended bench this week …why would they let him go to become depth for us ? Iit would be like us letting say Mason go
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Only thinking if they secure another player for this season & need to free up cap or spots. Is Brandon Smith a possibility there this year?
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
Don't get me wrong, yes we need an upgrade on the edge but we aren't going to get one for this season unless a miracle drops from the tree.

A Jacob Host would provide depth for 2 seasons & would be much better to vie with Seyfarth for the right edge this year than a Porter, Sukkar, Sione Fainu or Tumeth.

Then he can drop back to depth next season once we recruit a Kai Pearce-Paul or Jordan Riki for next year!!!
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No thanks.
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
Only thinking if they secure another player for this season & need to free up cap or spots. Is Brandon Smith a possibility there this year?
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yeah possibly …didn’t think of that ….sounds some time away though until the Cheese arrives, and they will no doubt continue to utilise Host in the meantime…

Unfortunately there are no easy answers mid season to sign new players … if they are any good, they kinda need to fall into your lap
 
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