Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Kelce68]

A contrarian would come into a thread like the Galvin thread and completely blow it up by defending him, saying he’s better off without the club. Yada yada yada. If you can find an instance where I have done that, go for it. That would be an example of saying something for the sake of it. There’s no opinion I give that I can’t justify or rationalise. I just take emotion out of the equation most of the time, which a lot of others don’t do at times. And because they can’t, they immediately think anything slightly left of status quo means you are against them or trying to rile them up. Forums like this are for die hards, so it’s no surprise they just accuse you of trying to get a reaction when you look at things from a different perspective.

Haha, what?

The moment you are shown, in a straightforward and logical manner, that your argument is incorrect or misguided, you ghost the conversation.

You partially float around to snipe in silly, contrarian comments then disappear into the wind when pushed to legitimise what you're saying.

You also post well too, which I have no trouble with supporting or agreeing with.

But you're a contrarian through and through. You're welcome to better back up your arguments with evidence in the future if you don't like my subjective, completely irrelevant assessment.

 

[Tom Shines]

Sadly, both Balmain and Wests were struggling clubs. As someone else said recently, it’s in the walls. The Benji thing for example, the problems run way deeper than who the coach is. Yet it’s those problems that gave us a coach like Benji.

Yes hard to argue … we see the mind sets that exists to this day amongst the dinosaurs still on the 2 boards …( Magpies and Balmain)

I’m not one to want the WT to give up though (like some gave said) …but it’s still a tough slog that they have ahead of them..

 

[WesternSuburbsBoy]

There you go…hypocrite.

Don't cry victim now Tuck when you're probably the biggest abuser on here

 

[Tucker]

Yes hard to argue … we see the mind sets that exists to this day amongst the dinosaurs still on the 2 boards …

I’m not one to want the WT to give up though (like some gave said) …but it’s still a tough slog that they have ahead of them..

The first step towards a winning culture is locking down the youth coming through. We’ve lost some excellent potential long term first graders in the past year. That tap needs to be turned off.
We can’t lose TDS, Bula, Mason etc…we must keep the Fainus and Lauli’is together. Pole must be kept…he is giving every impression this is his last contract with us. Young Makasini and Haywood coming through need to be properly managed. Don’t throw them to the wolves like Matamua and co copped.

Losing Galvin the way we did is a wake up call. I’m interested to see if we jumped out of bed, or merely hit the snooze button as per usual.

 

[The Chad]

Hmmmm...

Maybe I was wrong. It could be that Tigers fans had vinegar inserted intravenously over night....

 

[TV Ted Ellery]

I have actually listened twice.
It isn’t for me as I spend time on here and LU and as such usually everything said on the pod is something I’ve already heard and/or had discussions about days beforehand. Additionally, your quality isn’t great, and your offsider used to come in here spreading misinformation for a laugh, raising questions about credibility.
I prefer discussions on forums.

The situation with Galvin is not being analysed truthfully on here. His interview last night contradicted a vast percentage of the narrative being spread by Wests Tigers fans.
He doesn’t hate this club, loves and respects Benji as a man and as a player - maybe not so much as a coach, but he has never shitcanned him. He is still on speaking terms with Luai and all the boys. His ex CEO and coach, as well as some players are on record saying he is a good kid from a good family, yet I constantly hear and read from our fans that he is a glory hog, money grubbing, egotistical sack of shit who thinks he is far too good for this club….and his father is even worse!
This whole thing is a joint cluster-F. The club has had its head up its arse in the way it brought him into top grade and ignored fluorescent red flags, the Bulldogs and Eels have been underhanded, the NRL toothless, the management company manipulative, and the kid himself naive and immature.
HOWEVER….We have understood ALL of this for well over a month now, yet day after day after day this narrative of victimisation and “woe is me” permeates throughout the fanbase. There’s a conspiracy against us, with the refs cheating us and the NRL wanting to keep us down. Go on most game day threads and there are mentions of this within the first couple of pages after kickoff every single week, year after year. It’s tiresome. It’s weak.
This isn’t the club I have supported for 4 decades. Our call was Balmain boys don’t cry. There’s no way that saying holds true to this club.

Don't tell me that an avowed cynic like you is going to take as gospel Galvin's scripted responses in that softball interview? Besides the fact that he's subject to a non-disparagement clause, shitcanning the club on the way out would only diminish his public reputation further.

Neither party has handled the situation particularly well, but your eagerness to absolve Galvin of any blame speaks more to your hatred of the club.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Haha, what?

The moment you are shown, in a straightforward and logical manner, that your argument is incorrect or misguided, you ghost the conversation.

Because there comes a point where you feel like you are banging your head against a wall. And you are one of those types who can’t just argue the point being discussed. Hence your irrelevant snipe about my political leanings the other week.

You partially float around to snipe in silly, contrarian comments then disappear into the wind when pushed to legitimise what you're saying.

Again with this buzzword. I already explained myself on this one. Just because I see things from a different POV doesn’t mean I’m trying to rile people up

You also post well too, which I have no trouble with supporting or agreeing with.

Thanks. Definitely a compliment coming from you

But you're a contrarian through and through. You're welcome to better back up your arguments with evidence in the future if you don't like my subjective, completely irrelevant assessment.

I do back up with evidence. If the conversation isn’t getting tedious and the other person isn’t getting personal. That’s when I tap out.

 

[Nonotmeagain]

It's a mental affliction that causes the need for a forum of anonymous people to recognise their anonymous self as correct, stemming from an inadequate sense of self worth.

That is correct- although it get exhibited in many forms.

 

[Lestronge]

state of origin u19’s is coming up this is zero tackles predicted team with a couple of our juniors !!! 🙂


1. Connor Votano (Newcastle Knights)
2. Aidan Gow (Newcastle Knights)
3. Heamasi Makasini (Wests Tigers)
4. Hayden Buchanan (St George Illawarra Dragons)
5. Luke Laulilii (Wests Tigers)
6. Mitchell Woods (Canterbury Bulldogs)
7. Toby Rodwell (Sydney Roosters)
8. Cody Hopwood (Newcastle Knights)
9. Jared Haywood (Wests Tigers)
10. Itula Seve (Sydney Roosters)
11. Jacob Halangahu (St George Illawarra Dragons)
12. Darcy Smith (Sydney Roosters)
13. Finau Latu (St George Illawarra Dragons)
14. Lorenzo Talataina (Parramatta Eels)
15. Cooper Clarke (Melbourne Storm)
16. Kaiden Lahrs (North Queensland Cowboys)
17. Ryda Talagi (Parramatta Eels)

Is Lahrs , Tom Learoyd- Lahrs kid ? Just an unusual name . It’s so weird seeing guys maybe 5-10 years older than me with 20 year old origin sons/daughters . It just drives home how middle aged you are haha

 

[pawsandclaws1]

The first step towards a winning culture is locking down the youth coming through. We’ve lost some excellent potential long term first graders in the past year. That tap needs to be turned off.
We can’t lose TDS, Bula, Mason etc…we must keep the Fainus and Lauli’is together. Pole must be kept…he is giving every impression this is his last contract with us. Young Makasini and Haywood coming through need to be properly managed. Don’t throw them to the wolves like Matamua and co copped.

Losing Galvin the way we did is a wake up call. I’m interested to see if we jumped out of bed, or merely hit the snooze button as per usual.

The club did well to identify and retain those youngsters from the Wests HM team and Westfields Sports High in competition from other clubs. For this the club deserves credit. Galvin was always leaving the club, and that is on him.

I am a big supporter of Sir Alec Ferguson's recruitment strategy and the highlighted sentence always resonated with me -

“I think that it could be divided into maybe a few parts. Some players I had were absolute natural footballers, with natural talent. But there were other players who shared my determination, who maybe weren’t the best players but they made themselves the best players, because they had something inside them too.

Ferguson reveals traits he looked for in Man Utd signings | Sporting News Canada

Sir Alex Ferguson says he looked for determination in instinct when it came to recruiting players for Manchester United.

www.sportingnews.com

 

[TV Ted Ellery]

Is Lahrs , Tom Learoyd- Lahrs kid ? Just an unusual name . It’s so weird seeing guys maybe 5-10 years older than me with 20 year old origin sons/daughters . It just drives home how middle aged you are haha

League players tend to pump them out early.

 

[Telltails]

Feels like Tigers fans must suckle vinegar sticks over night before coming on here posting some days

There are few who have got a cupboard full

 

[GNR4LIFE]

League players tend to pump them out early.

Watmough was a father at 15.

 

[Lestronge]

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Weak [This word has been automatically removed] won't even tag me on your defamatory post!

Over to you @Suzie-Q @Spartan117 @Demps

I just want to point out the narrative that the reaction of “we’re better off without him” is some kind of “I didn’t like you anyway” response to Galvin leaving , as if it’s a entirely new thing , is just not true .
I’ve been highly critical of Galvin for over a year . I’ve felt he hasn’t done much since his sook about his hand being broken , and I’ve been very much on the Fainu>>>> Galvin thing for ages .
Just to give even more credence to this , I was one of the first to point out ADs defensive deficiencies when he was the golden child as well . People even implied racism/ Luke Brooks Pocket holder …. It got nasty !
This post isn’t to say I told you so , but to the make the point that these conversations were being had , and people were talking about tempering expectations.
To be fair @Tucker was one of them, along with myself . As much as I hate saying it .

 

[Lestronge]

League players tend to pump them out early.

Yea I know . I waited until I was 30 . I don’t know how you could have a kid any younger. I’m still a man child now , I can only imagine how bad I was when I was early 20s.

 

[Kelce68]

Because there comes a point where you feel like you are banging your head against a wall. And you are one of those types who can’t just argue the point being discussed. Hence your irrelevant snipe about my political leanings the other week.

Again with this buzzword. I already explained myself on this one. Just because I see things from a different POV doesn’t mean I’m trying to rile people up

Thanks. Definitely a compliment coming from you

I do back up with evidence. If the conversation isn’t getting tedious and the other person isn’t getting personal. That’s when I tap out.

Incorrect.

I, painfully, will stick to the point to the degree of logical breakdown.

More so than most. Much to my own chagrin.

I mentioned your politics the other day, because it was part of a logically consistent pattern that fell within the criticism I was making.

I am very, very careful with my words.

 

[weststigers]

16.3 in the event that the player is alleged to have committed a crime by NSW Police, the club may do all such things and acts it deems fit to address the problem including but not limited to levying fines, withholding payments, suspending the players engagement with any club related activity and the like.

Something like that.

He doesn’t have to agree.

The club can already fine and remove them from club duties.

You don't need extra clauses.

Look at every player that's been sacked in the NRL. None of them got sacked because of some extra clause. It's already baked in and not required. I think the standard contract is fine. Clauses are for the terms of payment and contract length, not for behaviour.

 

[Nonotmeagain]

Aren't all posts on the forum subjective from our own viewpoints.

 

[hodgo]

Honestly boys just use the ignore button i literally ignored 3 people that constantly cause problems and my time here is so much more pleasant. Don't bother feeding the plebs just ignore and move on

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Incorrect.

Well that’s my response to the contrarian rubbish

I, painfully, will stick to the point to the degree of logical breakdown.

Sounds like you take yourself and this site too seriously. Don’t do that. Lighten up a little.

More so than most. Much to my own chagrin.

Thank you for your sacrifice

I mentioned your politics the other day, because it was part of a logically consistent pattern that fell within the criticism I was making.

Anytime politics is discussed, it turns into a shit fight. Seems strange you’d single me out.

I am very, very careful wihh my words.

Sorry, but I did giggle at the irony of this.