Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

TigerBurnsy said:
Possibly the biggest in the whole nrl for a long time
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Maybe,

But why are the Titans so down on the ladder?

I mean look Tino is a great player, but his side is completely loosing. You would'nt get Tino here for under 1m... and we can only have so many 1m players.

I would rather Josh Papalii or Kikau. Maybe Yeoh or a Penrith forward. Which sounds harsh, but Titans should have been performing, and they are not. They had Sexton in the halves last year... he clearly can run a side, why are they doing so badly?

Not saying Tino is the answer but I am saying I want a player that I know would win. I would break the bank for Payne Haas but wouldn't for Tino.
 
BBTF said:
If he has then we certainly have not utilised it. So far since the start of the year we have let go Bateman, Klemmer, TDS, Galvin, and ikely Doueihi, Naden, Staines (next year), as well as the 3-4 squad fillers. Meanwhile we have picked up T.May (probably x2) and KPP.
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Hey bbtf,

Just to clarify, "front ending" refers to shifting a player's salary forward—essentially paying part of their future contract earlier—to free up cap space in later seasons.

It’s rarely done way I'm outlining below, but to keep it simple, let’s say offloading the players you mentioned above gives us an extra $1.5 million to spend in 2025.

Now imagine the below three players contracts look like this for 2026:

- Turuva: $500k
- Terrell: $600k
- Latu: $400k

Combined, that’s $1.5 million.

In theory, we could pay all three their 2026 salaries upfront in 2025. That would wipe their cost off the books for 2026—leaving us with an extra $1.5 million to use that year. And if we already had $1 million of cap space set aside for 2026, we'd now be working with $2.5 million instead.

Clubs only usually front-load a portion of these contracts—say 50%—rather than the full amount.

So circling back to your comment: you wouldn’t see any benefit this season. The payoff kicks in next season, when the cap space opens up from having front-loaded the deals. We could use the $2.5 to go and get Payne Haas for a year or two!!
 
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mtd#2 said:
Hey bbtf,

Just to clarify, "front ending" refers to shifting a player's salary forward—essentially paying part of their future contract earlier—to free up cap space in later seasons.

It’s rarely done way I'm outlining below, but to keep it simple, let’s say offloading the players you mentioned above gives us an extra $1.5 million to spend in 2025.

Now imagine the below three players contracts look like this for 2026:

- Turuva: $500k
- Terrell: $600k
- Latu: $400k

Combined, that’s $1.5 million.

In theory, we could pay all three their 2026 salaries upfront in 2025. That would wipe their cost off the books for 2026—leaving us with an extra $1.5 million to use that year. And if we already had $1 million of cap space set aside for 2026, we'd now be working with $2.5 million instead.

Clubs only usually front-load a portion of these contracts—say 50%—rather than the full amount.

So circling back to your comment: you wouldn’t see any benefit this season. The payoff kicks in next season, when the cap space opens up from having front-loaded the deals. We could use the $2.6 to go and get Payne Haas for a year or two!!
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Spot on.

Terrell is probably going to get an upgrade... New contract and we shift forward the pay to this year (having lost Galvin/TDS). Lets say we think Terrell is an 800k player, We have freed Galvin/TDS salary we can pay 150k extra for the next two years to Terrell now at least, we should have 300k freed in our cap.
 
mtd#2 said:
Hey bbtf,

Just to clarify, "front ending" refers to shifting a player's salary forward—essentially paying part of their future contract earlier—to free up cap space in later seasons.

It’s rarely done way I'm outlining below, but to keep it simple, let’s say offloading the players you mentioned above gives us an extra $1.5 million to spend in 2025.

Now imagine the below three players contracts look like this for 2026:

- Turuva: $500k
- Terrell: $600k
- Latu: $400k

Combined, that’s $1.5 million.

In theory, we could pay all three their 2026 salaries upfront in 2025. That would wipe their cost off the books for 2026—leaving us with an extra $1.5 million to use that year. And if we already had $1 million of cap space set aside for 2026, we'd now be working with $2.5 million instead.

Clubs only usually front-load a portion of these contracts—say 50%—rather than the full amount.

So circling back to your comment: you wouldn’t see any benefit this season. The payoff kicks in next season, when the cap space opens up from having front-loaded the deals. We could use the $2.5 to go and get Payne Haas for a year or two!!
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I know it wasnt the point of your post, but you cannot front load an entire years salary to the year before. There is a limit under the CBA, but is also subject to minimum wage laws etc. In addition, players and agents wont allow contracts to be heavily front loaded as it causes taxation issues for players (higher wage for that year puts them in a tax bracket they shouldnt be in).

Front loading contracts is much more complicated than it sounds and it usually is spread across the squad rather than one or two players (despite what the media report). It's usually no more than 10-15% of any individual players contract for that year that is front loaded.
 
Canadian Club said:
I know it wasnt the point of your post, but you cannot front load an entire years salary to the year before. There is a limit under the CBA, but is also subject to minimum wage laws etc. In addition, players and agents wont allow contracts to be heavily front loaded as it causes taxation issues for players (higher wage for that year puts them in a tax bracket they shouldnt be in).

Front loading contracts is much more complicated than it sounds and it usually is spread across the squad rather than one or two players (despite what the media report). It's usually no more than 10-15% of any individual players contract for that year that is front loaded.
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The highest tax bracket kicks in at 190k . Most half decent players are on more than that .
 
mtd#2 said:
Hey bbtf,

Just to clarify, "front ending" refers to shifting a player's salary forward—essentially paying part of their future contract earlier—to free up cap space in later seasons.

It’s rarely done way I'm outlining below, but to keep it simple, let’s say offloading the players you mentioned above gives us an extra $1.5 million to spend in 2025.

Now imagine the below three players contracts look like this for 2026:

- Turuva: $500k
- Terrell: $600k
- Latu: $400k

Combined, that’s $1.5 million.

In theory, we could pay all three their 2026 salaries upfront in 2025. That would wipe their cost off the books for 2026—leaving us with an extra $1.5 million to use that year. And if we already had $1 million of cap space set aside for 2026, we'd now be working with $2.5 million instead.

Clubs only usually front-load a portion of these contracts—say 50%—rather than the full amount.

So circling back to your comment: you wouldn’t see any benefit this season. The payoff kicks in next season, when the cap space opens up from having front-loaded the deals. We could use the $2.5 to go and get Payne Haas for a year or two!!
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mtd#2,what are the tax laws for sports people front loading , opposed to working class front loading. .No stress here for an answer , im neither lol, interesting equation that's all
 
Canadian Club said:
I know it wasnt the point of your post, but you cannot front load an entire years salary to the year before. There is a limit under the CBA, but is also subject to minimum wage laws etc. In addition, players and agents wont allow contracts to be heavily front loaded as it causes taxation issues for players (higher wage for that year puts them in a tax bracket they shouldnt be in).

Front loading contracts is much more complicated than it sounds and it usually is spread across the squad rather than one or two players (despite what the media report). It's usually no more than 10-15% of any individual players contract for that year that is front loaded.
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i find the thought of all levels of government tipping their hats into propping up the Nrl , yet the Tax Office stays staunch n stays true to its values ,refreshing
 
Canadian Club said:
I know it wasnt the point of your post, but you cannot front load an entire years salary to the year before. There is a limit under the CBA, but is also subject to minimum wage laws etc. In addition, players and agents wont allow contracts to be heavily front loaded as it causes taxation issues for players (higher wage for that year puts them in a tax bracket they shouldnt be in).

Front loading contracts is much more complicated than it sounds and it usually is spread across the squad rather than one or two players (despite what the media report). It's usually no more than 10-15% of any individual players contract for that year that is front loaded.
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what's your theory , is the PNG ( franchise ) tax except , valid both there and in Oz ,bringing the $'s back home
 
426Tlgerland said:
Tyson F for me x 2 years = lock covered plus back row if needed
May Jnr x 2 years = centre covered plus wing
Big Puppa x 1 year just for first 20 and last 20 (while we find another bopper for 2027
Pole impact from bench
Can be done with our cap I would think
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People would argue by signing both Pappa and frizzle, that would be one too many pensioners signed at the same time.... I don't mind the idea, but I can see why people would be worried about the idea.... 1-2 years is fine for both, just to help steady the ship and bring some old head stability to the club, without blocking up and coming young stars...
 
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