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[Bus 2 Terrigal]

Every grade is operated by Wests Tigers RLFC.

This myth of Wests Tigers teams, rep Magpies teams, and rep Balmain teams being operated by different parties needs to end. It's all run by the one organisation - Wests Tigers RLFC.

... which is owned by the Holman Barnes Group.

The way I see it, if you own something, you’re entitled to kick in as much or as little funding as you like.

Anyone not happy with that, go make em an offer 🤷‍♂️

 

[Bus 2 Terrigal]

From an observation point and not really knowing it also looks like they don’t put much money into the magpies cup side either

So are we now saying our club is crap because we’re poor.
Give me a break. 🥴

 

[Telltails]

So are we now saying our club is crap because we’re poor.
Give me a break. 🥴

Given our position for an extended period of time and our inability to move forward compared to clubs who invest more into their organisations - it needs to be considered.
Otherwise we are just here to make up the numbers while torturing our supporters.

 

[Betterdays22]

Sarcasm.

Totally went over my head, apologies

 

[cochise]

... which is owned by the Holman Barnes Group.

The way I see it, if you own something, you’re entitled to kick in as much or as little funding as you like.

Anyone not happy with that, go make em an offer 🤷‍♂️

These answers are just on response to the claim that the HBG are carrying the Wests Tigers, Wests Tigers generate their own income that far more than the HBG grant.

I personally have no issue with the HBG ownership.

 

[IronFist]

... which is owned by the Holman Barnes Group.

The way I see it, if you own something, you’re entitled to kick in as much or as little funding as you like.

Anyone not happy with that, go make em an offer 🤷‍♂️

HBG own the license to operate Wests Tigers in the NRL. History shows in the past decade since they assumed majority control that they do it badly.

Any offer to HBG is purchasing the license, and requires approval from the ARLC.

It would be good to know why HBG are involved if they're not willing to provide sufficient investment for it to be successful.

 

[innsaneink]

So are we now saying our club is crap because we’re poor.
Give me a break. 🥴

Not poor....tight.

 

[Bus 2 Terrigal]

Given our position for an extended period of time and our inability to move forward compared to clubs who invest more into their organisations - it needs to be considered.
Otherwise we are just here to make up the numbers while torturing our supporters.

“Invest more into their organisation” 🤔
So don’t we have a wiz bang centre at Concord, two junior league nursery’s, and we’ve attracted a number of high profile players during recent seasons ...

We’re hardly in the Dickensian position of the Wests Magpies back before the salary cap when the club Secretary Ray Bernasconi would sweep out the changing sheds on game day.

CODE Sports earlier this year analysed the true dollar value of each clubs NRL squad and ranked Wests 10th (up from 17th last year).

 

[cktiger]

... which is owned by the Holman Barnes Group.

The way I see it, if you own something, you’re entitled to kick in as much or as little funding as you like.

Anyone not happy with that, go make em an offer 🤷‍♂️

Elias already did.

 

[Bus 2 Terrigal]

Elias already did.

He clearly needed to pull a bit more cabbage
from his back door 🤷‍♂️

 

[Bus 2 Terrigal]

HBG own the license to operate Wests Tigers in the NRL. History shows in the past decade since they assumed majority control that they do it badly.

Any offer to HBG is purchasing the license, and requires approval from the ARLC.

It would be good to know why HBG are involved if they're not willing to provide sufficient investment for it to be successful.

Investment in what exactly ?

 

[IronFist]

Investment in what exactly ?

I can see where this is going. You and your cronies may have time to play stupid on forums. I don't have the time or inclination to answer to it.

 

[Bus 2 Terrigal]

I can see where this is going. You and your cronies may have time to play stupid on forums. I don't. Goodbye.

I don’t have any cronies (it’s just me buddy)
It was a genuine question.

I mean don’t we spend our cap (or near enough)?
This money, that we apparently desperately need, what’s it for ?

More corner posts? A live-in dietician for Royce Hunt ? A clinical psychiatrist for juniors who get the urge to leave? A stand up comedian to try and put a laugh into grouchy Marshall ? A Learjet for club scouts? A priest with holy water to exorcise the whole joint?

What’s the extra dosh for ?

 

[Needaname]

What did I miss? Anyone keen to do an AI summary? Are the magpies back yet or have the Tigers completed the take over in full?

 

[coivtny]

I can see where this is going. You and your cronies may have time to play stupid on forums. I don't have the time or inclination to answer to it.

Hah, what a weak capitulation.

 

[coivtny]

I don’t have any cronies (it’s just me buddy)
It was a genuine question.

I mean don’t we spend our cap (or near enough)?
This money, that we apparently desperately need, what’s it for ?

More corner posts? A live-in dietician for Royce Hunt ? A clinical psychiatrist for juniors who get the urge to leave? A stand up comedian to try and put a laugh into grouchy Marshall ? A Learjet for club scouts? A priest with holy water to exorcise the whole joint?

What’s the extra dosh for ?

Exactly mate. Another piss weak, poorly directed shot at nothing. The problem is the quality of our team (fully funded by the NRL) and the quality of our coaching, not the amount of money HBG kicks in.

 

[coivtny]

What did I miss? Anyone keen to do an AI summary? Are the magpies back yet or have the Tigers completed the take over in full?

Both Balmain and Wests have been taken over by Dubbo CYMS, the powerhouse of the wests.

 

[Bus 2 Terrigal]

Exactly mate. Another piss weak, poorly directed shot at nothing. The problem is the quality of our team (fully funded by the NRL) and the quality of our coaching, not the amount of money HBG kicks in.

I’m finding on this forum that the ills of the Wests Tigers are regularly laid at the feet of -
*HBG (aka Wests Ashfield),
*Our NSW Cup team being the Western Suburbs Magpies
*Playing games at Campbelltown (aka the graveyard).

... and yet old Magpies, daring to voice an opinion are the troublemakers who just wont accept the joint venture 🤣🤣🤣

#TooFunny

 

[Red88_Tiger]

Every grade is operated by Wests Tigers RLFC.

The reserve grade team is just branded Western Suburbs Magpies, same as how SG Ball and Harold Matts teams are branded Balmain Tigers and Western Suburbs Magpies. Organisationally, there is no separation! Every player, every coach, every support staff member that works with these teams are contracted or employed by Wests Tigers. The $18m NRL grant, the $1.5m HBG funding, and West Tigers organic revenue streams contribute to operating NRL, NRLW, reserve grade, Jersey Flegg, SG Ball, Tarsha Gale, Harold Matts, Lisa Fiola, Andrew Johns, Laurie Daley, and development (cubs) teams, as well as the club's administration, sales, community programs, and media requirements.

Operationally, all teams are administered by Wests Tigers RLFC at Concord. So you can see how the club is spread very thin financially.

HBG contribute funding to running Balmain Tigers DRLFC junior teams - $275k in 2024. They also contribute $225k to Wests Magpies, for what I'm unsure. Perhaps to assist Lidcombe Oval match days. I suspect this figure will be much higher for FY2025 given Wests Magpies have taken out a 21-yr lease on Lidcombe Oval now.

Wests Campbelltown support junior footy in Western Suburbs junior district and macarthur, group 6. They have nothing to do with Wests Tigers RLFC.

This myth of Wests Tigers teams, rep Magpies teams, and rep Balmain teams being operated by different parties needs to end. It's all run by the one organisation - Wests Tigers RLFC.

Thank you for clarifying
They all look under funded imo.

 

[IronFist]

Hah, what a weak capitulation.

Not a capitulation, just a choice not to engage in the circular arguments purposely instigated with feigned idiocy by keyboard warriors such @BZN @TSP @Magpie_Magic @Bus 2 Terrigal, seem to promote on these forums. I just put these farkwits on ignore. Welcome to the club!